Why Sally Ride waited until her death to tell the world she was gay

You are free to choose evil, to corrupt yourself and to go to hell. But you are not free to drag myself or my country with you.

 

Hell is a made up place, so is he evil you speak of. They are creatures of your mind.

Our constitution is not.

 

Talk to me, Webb...while estate law isn't my big thing the guy down the hall does it. I'll hook ya up.

Which leads me to the point which is...all of the benefits that people want can be conferred through the courts and attorneys. If we took the government out of the picture entirely, made marriage the personal, intimate union that it is, and then had people just figure out who should have what of their possessions, who can visit them in the hospital, who gets custody, etc during their union and lifetime things would go more smoothly.

And streamline the tax code to not penalize some and reward others.

 

Sally Ride.

Smart enough to be an astronaut but too stupid to understand and women were created to have sex with men, not other women.

 

What a horrible thing to say. Would you have said that if Sally Ride was your daughter?

 

Agreed 100%. Marriage at its heart is essentially a religious ceremony anyways which the government should NOT be involved in, so why not simply separate it completely form civil unions which would give all the same rights for gays and straights.

 

Sally Ride is not my daughter.

She is/was a public person using her celebrity to promote a pro-homosexual agenda.

 

There are 1400 rights that come with marraige. Since the goverment wants to hand out rights, its the governments job to hand those out equally or allow all citizens to obtain those rights equally.

 

I just passed over those comments. They were just plan stupid.

 

Is it fair to assume if your daughter came out as gay you would disown her then?

 

Sally Ride is not my daughter.

So don't try to change the subject from the topic of this thread to a hypothetical person that you would rather talk about.

 

Too hard for you to answer? Understandable. People's opinions of such matters tend to change when it gets closer to home. It's easy attacking strangers, not so easy attacking those we claim to love.

 

She is dead. How can she promote a pro-homosexual agenda?

 

They shouldn't be doing that either. The government has no business picking winners and losers. Each state can codify what civil unions have in terms of benefits with taxes etc. Although I would like to see NO government involvement, if it is limited to just states then I will feel a little bit better. If one state wants to grant tons and tons of "rights" to people in civil unions in their state then fine and if another state just treats them as two people living in the same apartment then that is up to them as well. The only distinction between "marriage" and "civil union" should be whether it was performed by a church or a justice of the peace. The church can then decide if their "marriage" has any extras attached to it. But at no point should taxpayer money be used to subsidize marriage.

 

Well....it's all the myopic, unintended, convoluted consequences of government social engineering...

Heteros either don't acknowledge, or don't want to give up the unconstitutional preferential treatment, so they blindly support government's social engineering (collectivist) efforts to incentivize legal unions...

gays, for want of the same preferential treatment, are claiming 14th amendment equal protection...

while me, the single individual, qualifies for no preferential treatment....I can't leave someone my estate without government bureaucrats taking a sizeable chunk...my lifetime of paying into Social Security simply goes back into the pot

It will be interesting to see the number of cases like my hypothetical that crop up if gay marriage or civil unions ever pass constitutional muster...

toss it to your estate plan lawyer buddy...see what he says.

 

Unless the libs are lying, which they have been known to do, you could say that Sally Ride is speaking to us from the grave.

 

What are you saying, you plan on dying single? I would suggest considering a will then.

 

The topic is Sally Ride not some hypothetical person that you just invented.

 

The only reason one would say this, is ignorance of the 1400 rights that come with marraige.

 

Calm down, don't have a mac attack on me. I was responding to your rather hateful words directed at a dead person. I was wondering if you would apply those same hateful words to your son or daughter if they came out gay. I have no problem with that hypothetical. My love for my children is unconditional.

 

And I was responding to the admission of stupidity by a celebrity who only happens to be dead.

 

What if she passed out on your couch after consuming half a bottle of whiskey and puking all over the coffee table and floor and shaved part of the cat while she was hammered..........when she was 7 years old. How would you feel about your kid then? What a freaking mess that was. Never watching that kid again.

 

Not married so I don't know what all goes along with that. The states can decide themselves if they want to give people pension benefits when their spouse dies or if they get hospital visitation rights etc. What I don't like is the Federal government having ANY say in something that has nothing to do with national security or interstate transportation. If it isn't enumerated for the Feds in the Constitution then either get an amendment passed or leave it up to the states. There is no "right" to get married anywhere in the Constitution or any of the founding documents that I am aware of. What I don't like are asinine national decisions that affect everyone. If a state has bad laws then you can at least move to another state, if the Feds pass bad laws you have to leave the country.

 

Here is a link: 1400 rights that come with marraige. Educate yourself

 

Homosexuals have the same right to marry that straights have.

In the case of men either one has an equal right to marry any woman who will have them.