The New World Order

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  1. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that's necessarily true. Economic globalization was bound to happen naturally, as the world becomes naturally more easily connected through technology. But that is a product of the free market. Globalization is not a bad thing...the problem only comes when governments subvert this natural international free market development...particularly when these governments are controlled by a small handful of elitists (as ours is demontratably so - see the OP). They are doing everything in their power to use economic globalization as an excuse to implement world government, and convert the free market system into an international state-socialist one, which would only lead to international totalitarianism. That is the New World Order.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    They are plugged in. Whatever is most convenient and requires the least amount of effort wins. They cannot help it. Fifty years of mass media marketing has hypnotized people.

    Thank you for this thread.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Thought I would rebump this thread with Bilderberg lists courtesy of their website:

    This is for the people who somehow feel that they are not news and that these people meeting with our politicians isn't relevant:

     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    It would be interesting to compare this list to the Council on Foreign Relations member list. Any members that are in common, we can assume are key players today.

    Like Robert Zoellick, President of the World Bank. He is also a CFR member and the World Bank is a key component of the New World Order. We can be certain that he is a key player.
     
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    I would agree. Still, globalization provides the environment where governments (and the power elites who manipulate them) can better accomplish the goals of the New World Order. This is occurring, and has been for decades, even centuries. This is not to say that globalization is bad, but is prone to corruption of righteous progress from such. Personally, I have no qualms with the concept of achieving a new world order, just not the version of many power elites. A more integrated, globalized world should come in accordance with greater liberty and freedom, all the way down to the lowest level, the individual. Innovation from attaining such could provide the wealth and power that not just elites desire, but humans everywhere need.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    I am deep down the rabbit hole on this. I think Angelina Jolie's transformation from wild child to global humanitarian CFR friendly spokesperson is just the beginning of a pro-globalist policy being introduced to us through Hollywood. Kony 2012 was another one. It appears on the surface about stopping global conflict, but really its about wealth accrual and solidification of their oligopoly.

    People will, of course, paint anyone who says this with the Alex Jones brush, but I'm past caring about that. It's that old saying: “just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.”
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    This is just from Wiki (in case anyone aside from us is interested)

    CFR-Interlocks-2004.jpg
     
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    These discussions are very good.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    He thinks the Spice Girls pop band is a member of the New World Order.

    /thread

    Plus his posts reak of schizophrenia or dementia, the general incoherance and lose association of language and thoughts, the paranoia, etc - he clearly suffers from mental troubles, assuming he's not just a troll or a parodist which I also suspect.

    But thanks for claiming him as part of your camp, I'm glad you've taken him off our hands.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    And thank you for showing us how low your SAT scores were by demonstrating how to read the first sentence of something and drawing all the wrong conclusions.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Henry Kissinger crops up everywhere.
     
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    I might read it in full later - I skimmed over the first part of the thread, I just think doesn't speak well of the content if the author's lauding the posts someone who's likely a pardodist trying to make his own camp look stupid.

    But I'll start with this - how does Dr. Righteous know that the Rothschild Familes, the Fabian society, etc etc "only care about money and power"?

    That's why the whole "NWO clique" is misguided - they live in this parallel version of reality where every CEO, politician (other than Ron Paul), banker, etc is characterised as some cliched comic book villian who is "pure evil" - they show a total black/white mentality and lack of understanding of human nature.

    Not to mention they generalize and de-humanise their opponents, so in a way the conspiracy theorists are almost akin to Neo-Nazis or the KKK, because they dehumanize anyone who they consider part of the "establishment", "NWO", "globalist/global collectivist", etc to the level of a purely evil comic book villain devoid of normal human nature or emotions - so they're a movement fueled by hate as much as anything else.
     
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    Anyone who would bother to do research would come to the conclusion that the New World Order is real.
     
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    Did you read anything that they wrote? They're not hiding it. The books are very interesting and I'm sure if I were wealthy, intelligent, and feeling overly entitled I would probably feel the same. Unfortunately, they wish to do me harm so my respect for their intellect only goes so far.

    Pure evil? Now you're being dramatic. Every villain is the hero in his own story. I'm sure that they think they are doing something great because "we" wouldn't know what to do with rights anyway.

    Who dehumanizes their opponents? You don't believe in it. Have I called for your death,etc? Quit making stuff up. If you want to discuss facts, use this thread to discuss them. If you want to just make remarks based on what you think we feel or think then leave and snark us in other threads.

    This thread is for research.
     
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    Yes and no, Righteous. I think all of those things are happening, and frankly worse. But, I don't think it's a cabal of people trying to make a UN government. It's simply that Western civilization is failing. Politically, Culturally and Economically.

    It's simply a fact of life that civilizations come and go, and Western European civilization is senile.

    Politically, well, look around you, everything is political. People now fear to say anything of real consequence because well, it would hurt them. People are removed from olympic teams for impolitic comments on twitter (I disagree with her statement, but for crying out loud, the olympics are SPORT, and she's there as an athlete, not as a diplomat). Making a single comment of personal opinion by a CEO is enough to have the business outright banned from some areas, foment boycotts and buycotts and other such things. In our age, everything is political. Choice of clothing, shoes, food (organic or non-organic), recreation, and culture.

    Culturally, we really have no single American culture, nor is there a real Western culture. Immigrants don't identify as Americans or British or german. They identify with their home cultures. mexicans in america speak spanish and protest for inclusion by waving the mexican flag. In europe, not only do muslim immigrants not identify with European culture, but they actively subvert it by issuing death threats for insults to Islam, or by advocating the death of the host nation (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Imam-s-fiery-message-speaks-to-radical-British-2655078.php#page-1). It's not that the immigrants are different, but that they have little loyalty to the host culture. Immigrants came from all over the world and assimilated into America, they insisted that their kids learn English and participate in American culture. Now immigrants choose not to do so. We don't even claim to have the truth of any subject. it's all relative, which means that we're wrong because we would have to have beliefs to be right.

    Economically, yes you're right. We've long since abandoned capitalism. Most people today are frankly too domesticated to survive in a REAL capitalist economy. We've lost the ability and the desire to innovate. We have gadgets, but most of the promise of entreprenerialism in the computer age is wasted on entertainments. the ipad is basicly another media consumption device. Nothing particularly wrong with an entertainment device, but it goes to a larger problem, which is that we seem incapable of creating new classes of devices on the order of what happened in the turn of the last century. Consider the inventions that came out of the last century: Automobiles, telephones, lightbulbs, telegraphs, airplanes. All of them were basicly world changing. My great grandmother was born in 1896. when she was born, people travelled by horse and buggy, read by candlelight, communicated by letter, and thought that flying was fiction. All of that changed within the space of 20 or so years in the 20th century. In the 21st century, we still have the same basic devices that we had in 1975. The last world changing innovation was the internet, which was pretty much in current form in 1992. Sure it's gotten faster, but it's not changing much. In most cases, our new inventions are improvements on the old ones. the CPU might be more powerful or smaller, but a computer is still a computer. We still don't have personal aircraft -- we've been dreaming of those for a century. even a personal robot is a faraway dream, perhaps a decade off. I mean sure we have robot competitions, but we don't have a practical and functional robot that can wash dishes or change sheets or the like. Other economic problems are the rise in acceptability of "trade protection". The idea effectively means higher prices and fewer places to sell our goods. It's also frankly defeatest. The British didn't want trade protection at the high tide of the British Empire, in fact they were the leaders in smashing down barriers. the Americans did much the same in their turn -- they didn't close San Francisco harbor, they used their ironclad boat to force Japan to open her harbors. Why? because we needed new markets -- we were productive and entrepreneurial and we needed new buyers for the goods we were making. Now, we're afraid of the cheaper and often better products coming from the third world so we're ready to slam the doors to our markets. We know we cannot win in the current state of things. We don't innovate new products that people will pay for, and other nations can often make stuff better and cheaper than we can.

    http://comingdarkage.blogspot.com/
     
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    if there was a new world order, it would get its genitals groped and thrown in prison/
     
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    All you have to do is look at the history of the Rothschild family exploiting governments into war to understand their historical motives. Though I don't know how much of a role they play today, they've certainly done their part not only by centuries of central bank exploitation, but their role in creating the Fed. At this point, they'd be intelligent to ensure the public isn't even aware of their existance.

    The Fabian Society's admitted goal is international socialism, which logically can only be implemented by a world government. The Fabians' goals really aren't a matter of debate.

    Already addressed adequately by Zoiasmom above. The rest of your post is just riddled with straw mans and mischaracterizations of my position.
     
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    The establishment media most certainly does its part to condition people to abandon intelligent thinking and feeds them mind numbing garbage to keep their minds off the travesty which is our government.

    A good way is through mass-manufactured, talentless, corporate, pop music that offers minimal intellectual stimulation.

    Are you a psychologist? Do you know him personally? Or are you just making baseless assertions?

    More incoherent babbling. Got any real points to make or just straw mans and ad hominems?
     
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    Nope, just ad hominems.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    So we have George Mitchell (CFR and Bilderberger), probably hand picked by Hillary, Conrad Black and Holbrooke that now are fairly prominent figures in America's Koolaid.
     
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    Well, they are! DUH! lol
     
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    The only NWO whose existence I accept is the now defunct professional wrestling group.
     
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    F the UN
    F George Soros
    F NWO
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Good for you. Now go turn on the TV and see what the Kardashians are up to
     
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    Why thank you BestViewed for keeping up with a serious topic...people don't understand the baby steps we have taken towards global governance.
     

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