The New World Order

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  1. Dr. Righteous

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    I see alot of people on this thread attacking Robodoon for the threads he has been starting, claiming that he is a hoplessly paranoid conspiracy theorist, etc. If any of you bothered to do any amount of research at all, you'd already realize that alot of what he says is based entirely on fact, not just opinion. But since none of you are willing to do that, I've done it for you and compacted it nicely here. Educate yourself:

    Just what is the New World Order? It is the fall of the old world order - America, Britain, Japan and other major superpowers to make way for a collectivist, democratic one-world government. The fall is being engineered by the world's financial powers who only care about two things: wealth and power. This includes, but is not limited to, the Rockefeller and Rothschild families, higher members of the Council on Foreign Relations and members of the British Fabian Society.

    How will they accomplish their goal? The short answer is through three tools: central banking systems, BIG government, and by installing CFR members in key positions of societal power centers in order to engineer public opinion. (As you can see from the link, these "power centers" include media, colleges/universities, military, Congress, the Presidential cabinet, Supreme Court, powerful corporations and banks, the Federal Reserve System, tax-exempt foundations and finally, the Democrat and Republican parties. They use these power centers for the primary purpose of conditioning Americans to abandon Individualist thinking in favor of Collectivist thinking.)

    The long answer is a bit more complicated. In order to institute a world government, it must first be ensured that no countries are powerful enough to a) overpower a world government, and b) opt out of a world government. The simple solution to both of these problems is economic and military destruction. As far as the former goes, if you convince all countries to disarm their nuclear weapons and can destroy them economically, then no country will ever be as poweful as a world government wielding nuclear weapons. Disarmament is for world peace of course, for the greater good of the greater number. (Technically, war would be impossible under a world government because no soveriegn countries would exist. There would only be "rebellious states", which would be nuked out of existence if necessary - to keep the peace, of course.) As for economic destruction, that's where the central banking system comes into play.

    The Federal Reserve System (or simply, the Fed) was created by seven men who, at the time, represented about 1/4 of the world's entire wealth. Those seven men were Benjamin Strong, Frank Vanderlip (Rockefeller's National City / Kuhn, Loeb & Co.), Paul Warburg (Kuhn, Loeb & Co., Rothschild), Nelson Aldrich, A. Piatt Andrew, Henry Davison (J.P. Morgan), and Charles Norton. These financial powers were all competetors, it's obvious that they were meeting to form a banking cartel agreement and pass into law, which is exactly what the Federal Reserve System is. Their goals were to 1) maintain control over the money markets in NYC, 2) reverse the trend toward private capital formation, and 3) pass their losses onto the taxpayers in the form of bailouts. The Federal Reserve has been successful in all three of these goals.

    Taxpayers get hit three times because of the Fed:

    1. The inevitable exponential growth of government to finance its unsustainable welfare state and military empire will not be able to be paid by taxpayers or through borrowing forever. The only solution is money creation: the Federal Reserve is on hook to be the lender of last resort to the federal government, which means the government can grow infinitely in size through money creation. The money used by the Fed to purchase treasury bonds will be created out of thin air. This newly created money will cause price inflation, which means taxpayers ultimately pick up the tab.
    2. Banks are able to collect interest on banking loans they make to customers and third world governments, using money created out of thin air by the Fed as a base. This newly created money causes price inflation, which means taxpayers ultimately pick up the tab. In turn, the banks collect interest on that money. Money created out of nothing. Interest on nothing. It is a continuous transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the banking system.
    3. Eventually the lose credit and money creation by the Fed will cause the inevitable economic backlash once the bad debt starts to liquidate. Banks will fail becuase of their reckless policies (as the US government's credit rating depletes and treasury bonds are dumped by foreign holders). But only banks deemed "too-big-to-fail" will be bailed out - the small banks be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. Since these big banks know they will inevitably be bailed out, they have no incentive to not be as reckless as possible. The money used to manufacture the bailouts will cause price inflation, which means taxpayers ultimately pick up the tab.

    This money creation not only benefits the banking system in its ability to be bailed out and collect interest on nothing, but it also destroys the purchasing power of the money and personal savings (private capital formation). That means that the average taxpayer will have to go into more debt than he would if his savings were gaining purchasing power. Inflation is the means by which the trend towards private capital formation has been reversed. The total reliance on the banking system and engine of debt by our economy and government to function is exactly what the creators of the Federal Reserve had in mind.

    The Federal Reserve's economic policies are also the direct causes of the business cycle: the boom phase is created by artificial expansion of money and easy credit, which creates malinvestment and bad debt that would not have otherwise occured had these distorted credit signals not been sent to the market. The reality check happens and the inevitable bust comes. The bust is actually the market's way of correcting itself: theoretically, all of the bad debt created by the banking system would be flushed out. However, the Federal Reserve intervenes to prevent the economic downturn from getting as bad as it needs to get with more of the same thing which caused the bust in the first place: easy credit and money creation. This cycle continues on and on. The booms get bigger, and subsequently, the busts get bigger.

    Banks and corporations are not the only things which get bailed out by the Fed, it also includes foreign governments. The Fed has the power to monetize foreign debt, which means it acts as the central bank for the entire world. (We cannot say for sure what foreign central banks the Federal Reserve has dealt with because it is illegal for the GAO to fully audit the Fed). However, the Federal Reserve is not the only mechanism by which this is done. It is done with the help of the IMF/World Bank, which was created in 1944 at the Bretton Woods meeting by Fabian socialist John Maynard Keynes and CFR member Harry Dexter White.

    Initially, the dollar being backed by gold prevented the IMF/World Bank from creating money out of nothing. In 1970 the IMF created the special drawing rights (SDR) currency to eliminate the problem, and the dollar was delinked from gold in 1971. SDR is basically a credit system by which governments that financially contribute to the IMF promise to eventually get the real money by taxing their citizens. (In the case of the United States, that money would simply be created out of nothing by the Federal Reserve and taxpayers would pick up the tab through higher prices instead.) The IMF/World Bank in turn is able to create dollars, pounds, euros, and yens out of nothing and lend to any government it chooses...
     
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    ...The governments it chooses are those third world governments that get into trouble when they cannot afford their interest payments to commercial banks. The money is quickly exhausted, but now the loans are guaranteed by the World Bank. So the World Bank makes another loan to the recipient country so that interest payments can resume, but eventually that money is depleted. And the cycle of perpetual debt continues forever. This has happened in Panama, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Romania, Cuba, Zambia, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Morocco, the Phillipenes, the Dominican Republic, and virtually every underveloped country in Latin America and Africa. China, Russia and India have now become the largest borrowers of IMF money. Since the economic crash in 2008, developed European nations have begun to receive bailouts from the IMF/World Bank, such as Greece, Spain and Portugal.

    It's not so hard to grasp once you realize that the loans from the IMF/World Bank were never intended to be repaid in the first place. The loans are used to acquire control over the political leaders of recipient countries as they become dependent on the continuous cash flow. That money never makes its way down to the private sectors: the purposes of these loans are to wage war on the free market in the third world. It is used by dictators to solidify their power over people - to commit genocide and famine. The countries locked in perpetual debt have literally been purchased by the IMF/World Bank. The continuous money creation to pay for all of these bailouts lowers the economic level of the donor countries but does not raise the economic level of the receiving countries, because the money is given from government to government by government, resulting only in the expansion of government along with political corruption and waste. Most of it is paid for by inflating the dollar, yen, euro and pound. It is a continous transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the banking system and foriegn governments.

    Through inflation and loss of soveriegnty, the United States, Europe and Japan are slowly being economically reduced to a common denominator with the rest of the world. That is the Fabian plan (their symbol is a turtle). Eventually, the Federal Reserve is going to have expanded the money supply so much that its attempt to get the economy to boom again during a bust will fail because hyperinflation will occur. This has happened with every fiat currency in history, and the US dollar is no exception. (Just because we are America does not mean we are immune to the fundamental laws of mathematics). This is the point we are on the verge of right now, as are Britain and Japan. Collapse of the dollar will mean worldwide economic depression (and the inevitable chaos and violence). The US government as we know it will essentially collapse.

    During the early stages of hyperinflation, we will begin to see a housing crisis much worse than in 2008. People will begin paying off their mortgages with worthless dollars, crushing the lenders. The response will be for Congress to bail out the banks and lenders, which obviously will do nothing. So they will pass a law that will protect the banks and lenders from losses by reassessing the mortgage values on a weekly (or daily) basis to keep up with inflation. Nobody will be able to afford the increases, and so mortgage payments will simply be suspended and everybody will be living in their homes at the expense of government. This means that all homes (and rental property) under mortgage will effectively be nationalized.

    As the hyperinflation continues, it will be the US, British and Japanese governments needing bailouts from the IMF/World Bank so that they can resume interest payments to the banks which they are indebted to. The only way for that to be possible is for the dollar to be dumped as the international reserve currency, which will certainly happen in the event of hyperinflation (or even before: CFR members at the IMF know that the dollar is going to hyperinflate). The SDR currency, being the new reserve currency through U.N. treaty, will become legal tender in all nations. It will be managed by the World Bank, which will effectively be elevated to the status of world's central bank. Becuase of this, it will assume the equivalent powers the Federal Reserve System has in the United States, and all central banks of the world will be restructured to become branches of the World Bank.

    This world currency will not actually be printed - it will be totally electronic. All citizens will have national ID cards (eventually international ID cards) that will be used to access checking accounts (now called debit accounts, and for good reason: all fiat money is debt, not real wealth). Cash transactions will be illegal. There will be no more bank runs because demanding currency will be illegal. This way, the U.N. will be able to "combat terorrism and counterfeitting more effectively" (ironically because all fiat money is counterfeit). In reality, it will be used to monitor your personal affairs, much as the Patriot Act has allowed the government to do, more effectively. (Political dissendents will get a visit from the United Nations Internal Revenue Service, much as what was done in the USSR and other socialist regimes). Such enormous power will open the door for them flagging an individual's ID card, effectively blocking them from making any type of economic transaction.

    As we have seen in Greece and the Weimar Republic, violence will erupt in the streets by protestors organized by radical groups demanding more entitlements, higher wages, price controls, better healthcare, and the destruction of the capitalist system. The protestors do not realize that capitalism has been dead in America for over a century, and that they are calling for more socialism as a solution to their socialist problems. These radical groups will be funded by the CFR and portrayed sympathetically by the CFR-dominated media. Since people have absolutely no concept of the strategy of pressure from above and pressure from below, the causes of socialism will be inbred into the general public as the solution to our "capitalist oppression".

    Price and wage controls will be instituted. Although they are intended to be temporary solutions, they will actually become permanent. Whatever businesses that have survived the depression will be taken out by these. The more necessary industries, such as food, energy, transportation and communications, will be nationalized, and thus their supply will become scarce. Taxes will be too high to afford, so of course this will create a huge black market. Many criminals will continue to be created out of ordinary men, not just non-violent drug offenders. Many prisons will continue to be constructed. Eventually martial law will be declared and people will be relieved when NATO peacekeeping forces arrive to patrol the streets. The violence will not cease, as the world will be trapped in a perpetual state of poverty. The sacrifice of liberty will be accepted for security: the police state will be forever welcome.

    Pretty soon it will become apparent to everybody that since the U.N. now controls the world's currency, it also has slowly begun assuming the role of a world government, as governments begin to legislate their soveriegnty away piece by piece. But it will be a democratic government, one man - one vote. Of course it is inevitable that this would, over the generations, completely wipe culture off the map. Americans would have to sacrifice their way of life completely to become more like what the world majority votes for. That means the people of China and India will have more of an influence on international law, since they are the most populous countries. We will also have to adopt some of the ways of the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and Latin America. But don't worry, we don't need culture in the minds of these collectivists, it is a primitive way of life. We will now be citizens of the world. The U.N. Declaration of Human Rights will replace the Bill of Rights.

    Unlike the Constitution, which was founded on the principles of Individualism, the U.N. Bill of Rights is founded on Collectivist principles, which means those rights can be taken away at any point. This interpretation of freedom of course leaves the door wide open for the oppressions seen in Socialist countries in the 20th century. Freedom of speech is allowed, so long as it is not exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the U.N. Political dissenters will be thrown in jail, or possibly never heard from again as in China or the Soviet Union...
     
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    ...The reason we are able to recognize inflation is becuase of our ability to measure the value of our currency relative to the value of another currency. Under the new system, there will be no other currencies to compare to, and no cash available to deal with wheelbarrows of money for a day's work. Because of this, price and wage controls will prevent hyperinflation from ever happening and the inflation rate will be dictated by bureaucratic formula rather than the free market at a "manageable" rate of 5%. That's 5% inflation forever. After a few generations, the currency will start to devalue noticeably but it will simply be replaced with another fiat currency. It's no different than IMF/World Bank just going into the computers and shave a few zeros off the end of the currency denomination. 1 hundred SDRs for a loaf of bread will simply become 1 SDR for a loaf of bread. Inflation, the transfer of purchasing power from taxpayers to the banking system and government, will now be able to continue on, infinitely and forever. Nobody will live long enough to see more than one currency replacement.

    The middle class will be completely wiped out eventually. All that will be left will be a small, ruling parasitic elite and a very large poor class as we see in third world countries today. Since being poor is illegal under socialism, the poorest of the poor will be euthanized. Thousands of people will starve to death every day, energy will be scarce...but socialism will not be blamed. Overpopulation will be. Women will be forcibly sterilized or given forced abortions in order to combat overpopulation problems which are starving the planet. The rest of the people who refuse to work for fixed, low wages will be given a chance to recant or be arrested. Of course, most will recant and work in return for government food, clothing, shelter and education for their children. Many will volunteer to join the U.N. Army. Midieval feudalism will have essentially returned but in a far more economically oppressive form. Economic priviledge will once again become a birthright.

    Depression will technically be non-existent because there can be no depression without any relative prosperity. The economy will only have one state: total poverty. True international socialism will have been achieved: everybody will be economically equal...equally impoverished. (Of course the ruling elite will be "more equal" than the rest). As the generations pass, the concepts of Individualism and true freedom will long be forgotten. These elite will remain faceless behind the scenes. Nobody will even be aware of their existence, and so nobody will know who or what to blame for their misery.

    That is the New World Order, and that is how we will get there. If you do further research, your findings will only further reinforce the facts and opinions I've set forth here.
     
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    As you get to know me, you will realize just how far out of the social paradigm I really am. But even I don't subscribe to conspiracy crap. Also, so what if only one country in the world exists? Maybe we can start focusing on scientific progress then. Instead of killing each other.

    I don't see how humanity can survive unless it stops attacking itself.
     
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    There's no way you read anything I posted. You've already made up your mind and that's good enough for you.
     
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    As I said, you don't really understand me. I have a friend who consistently spouts information about this stuff, I've done my own research, and I've read everything you've written here.

    But there is no true empirical data to back it up. It's the major problem I have with it.

    I see they might be trying to establish cooperation between countries, but that's not really abnormal.
     
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    What are you talking about? There are loads of historical facts presented about what has happened in the past and facts about what is happening right now. What more "empirical data" do you want?
     
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    The NWO is super strong. Just look at um.
     
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    Well, you can either insult me or give me more places to obtain information. It's not up to me to support your conclusion of the data, it's up to you. I shouldn't have to do your work to prove your theorem.
     
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    I didn't insult you. And if you read what I posted and you come across something which you can't find a legitimate source for after doing a simple google search, ask me and I'll be glad to back up anything I've said with sources.
     
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    I think infowars.com is probably the single greatest source of said information.

    But the problem with this information is you can really extrapolate so many different meanings, and this is but one of them.
     
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    Now you're the one who's insulting me. I don't care for Alex Jones at all. And exactly what parts are you referring to that have many different meanings which can be extrapolated? You're being extremely vague and leaving me hanging here.
     
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    Sorry, it's hard not to draw a parallel with infowars.com when that's exactly what they have been preaching for some time.

    Corporations do what they do to maximize the amount of money they have. That's why corporations exist. Naturally they will do anything they can to circumvent or control the laws (This includes banks) to accomplish that goal. But to say it's for the purpose of specific banking and corporate families to create a global civilization of universal poverty is kind of taking it a bit out of wack.
     
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    Maybe...it's not just corporate and banking families though, like you said it's really any corporation that takes advantage of government subversion of the free market. It's all a giant push that is unintentionally taking us in that direction, but there are those few at the very top who actively want it to happen. If you look at where we are right now, and what's happening, I think that my speculation of where we're going is not too farfetched, honestly. It seems to me that it's a rather logical progression, assuming the current trend in our political system continues.
     
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    It's foolish to think that all the changes in the world today are by accident rather than design. Our best defense is a renewed respect for our Constitution and a government that actually abides by it. It is a prickly document that Collectivists would love to see completely undermined. We have to get our financial house in order so that we quit selling our sovereignty. This won't happen on its own. We have to demand it. The upcoming election cycle is, in my view, the most critical one of my lifetime. We are at the brink and we have to pull back before it's too late. Time is running VERY short for our republic.
     
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    Ok, I'm starting to see where you are coming from. I'm glad you aren't advocating blind belief in your theory. I suppose if there were no checks in place, it would certainly be a natural progression, but thankfully there are checks in place. I'm hoping people wise up and see them before anything like this could occur.
     
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    I agree. Really, it would only take the simple act of abolishing federal legal tender laws to put the brakes on everything. Easier said than done though. I will continue to remain pessimistic, and when the dollar crashes, I suspect we will not turn to free money as the solution, but will accept IMF SDRs as legal tender to replace the dollar.
     
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    Yes indeed, and in fact it may already be too late. Ron Paul is the only individualist out of the handful of collectivists being offered by the Republican establishment as opposition to the collectivist in the white house.
     
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    Sighhhh. The "secret societies"! :whisper:

    Here is what Dr. Quigley thought of the conspiracy theorists' abuse of his work studying secret societies.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley
     
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    Wot's a "collectivist"? Wood dat be someone who thinks they live in a "society"? You know, a conglomeration of nerds lookin out for one another?
     
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    I said nothing about secret societies. You're putting words in my mouth, strawman. The CFR and Fabians are not secret societies. They're quite out in the open, right in front of your face, which is the beauty of it.

    Nothing in that paragraph disproves anything I said about the CFR. Quigley was on the inside, even if he wasn't part of the cabal at the top of the CFR, he still came out in agreement with their plans and thought they should be more open about it. And yeah, he was dismissive of authors who distorted his words and misrepresented facts, but he never came out and denied anything he said in Tragedy and Hope.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bys8CLAFhUs"]G. Edward Griffin- On Individualism v Collectivism #1 - YouTube[/ame]


    watch parts 2 through 4 after you're done with that
     
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    From a christians point of view, these players and the eventual outcome of the NWO are brought about by Lucifer.

    It is no coincidence that the migration of the NWO parallels the tribulation written in the Bible.
     
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    That's an interesting perspective. I would like to read more about that.
     
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    Most people just don't want to believe the NWO is real. These people haven't learned anything from Wikileaks. Governments lie to their people 24/7. It's actually shocking when Government tells the truth. Everything's a big lie. Like bombing & killing Libyans to "Protect the Civilians" and definitely not because of oil greed. So many people actually believe that stuff. The New World Order is real. Its happening right before our eyes. The problem is,so many people just want to ignore it and keep their eyes closed. Ignorance really is bliss.
     

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