America is a Christian nation

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Like it or not Atheists, 75% of Americans are still Christians - and no matter how many crosses you sue to have removed, or however much you recite Hitchens/Dawkins propaganda - you aren't going to be able to change that. If religion is oh so offensive to you then you should consider moving to China or North Korea, because - pimple-faced fools with a sub-par IQ who think they're smart just by pointing out that evolution is a fact, or laughing at people who are actually succesful and productive human beings just because they "believe in God - will always be social outcasts, and at the very bottom of the evolutionary chain when it comes to the likelyhood of reproducing. :lol:
     
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    Demographically speaking, you are correct. The United States of America is predominantly Christian, namely Protestant. Is there a point to this thread other than to criticize the efforts of some Atheists?
     
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    That's all very well and good, just keep religion out of government.
     
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    Well that is the main point. The miliant atheists who think they're "fighting some good cause" just by making it their mission in life to spread their hatred of religion or the Bible aren't really much different than the KKK or American Nazi Party - most of them are just boring, misanthropic, and generally unsuccesful people who think they're more intelligent than everyone else, including far more moral or successful people, just because they "don't believe in fairy tales" or whatever. They're not that far off from the KKK, a bunch of overweight redneck HS dropouts who think they're the "master race" just because they're white, and that anyone who's black or brown, even much more succesful and interesting people are inferior to them. The only difference between the two is in semantics, in practice they're one and the same.
     
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    As a "Christian"... I fully agree!!
     
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    Really... your OP is just plain disgusting. That kind of thinking should not be accepted by anyone. :(
     
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    Why is it disgusting?
     
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    I can assure you that in semantics and in practice, the KKK, American Nazi Party, and militant Atheists are quite different from each other. You view all three groups as one and the same, but this is not so.
     
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    I presume it is the implication that anyone who is concerned about the role of religion in U.S. society is a

    "pimple-faced fools with a sub-par IQ who think they're smart just by pointing out that evolution is a fact, or laughing at people who are actually succesful and productive human beings just because they "believe in God - will always be social outcasts, and at the very bottom of the evolutionary chain when it comes to the likelyhood of reproducing."

    which is quite a general and indeed disgusting slur. I, for example, am very concerned about recent well-funded predominantly American attempts to influence the education system of my own country in order to remove the teaching of evolution. Am I therefore a "social outcast"? A "pimple-faced fool"?
     
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    Better re think your percentages there. Apparently Christianity is on the decline in America.


    http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...y-in-america-affect-the-future-of-this-nation
     
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    I'm thinking specifically about the extremist atheists who make it their mission just to insult anyone who believes in a God while under the pretence that this somehow makes them "intelligent", when they really have way deeper problems than anyone does just for believing in God.Obviously I'm not refering to anyone who is an atheist or "believes in evolution". I believe evolution is fact also, but it has nothing to do with God or religion.
     
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    atheists are double in numbers approximately every 20 years it is absolutely inevitable they will become the majority, IMO in 30 years the majority of americans will be athiests, in canada sooner than that, in some euorpean countries they represent the majority already and soon to be in a number of others...this a trend happening all over the world and it affects every religion, even islam...
     
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    I'm sure it is on the decline in numbers, but even if Christianity completely died off - I don't believe that theism or deism in general would - some people understand the importance of believing in a higher power regardless of any specific religion. And yes the Christopher Hitchens/Dawkins crowd will always remain outcasts - people or groups who's only motivator in life is hatred of something or someone have never been shown to be successful in the long run.
     
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    Under Obama we need to keep Government out of religion
     
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    Even in the atheist community, the Christopher Hitchens-crowd (ex. "militant atheists" or "New Atheists") are an embarrassment to the rest - they're just to self-aborbed to know it. They're as much outcasts as the extreme Christian fundamentalists are in the mainstream Christian community. Their hate movement will never catch on, and people like that have never shown to be succesful in the long run - only through military force (ex. Hitler) have they ever been shown to have any major hold over society, and it was always short-lived in retrospect.
     
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    I compare the growth of Atheism to the growth of Deism in the late 18th Century/early 19th Century. Like the latter, the former will change the norms of belief systems.
     
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    In that case you have constructed a caricature. I'm sure you'd protest if I made a thread "Hey Christians, you should move out!" and then proclaimed only to be specificially talking about idiotic stereotypical rednecks. Your OP talks about atheists, whereas your complaint is with anti-social (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. These people exist within any subgroup of society. What difference is there between an atheist who insults everyone who does believe in a god, and a Christian who insults everyone who doesn't believe in their god? The problem is their insulting, not their religious beliefs. I would have the same problem with a Sci-fi fan who insulted everyone who hadn't read A Scanner Darkly.
     
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    Cricket. Much as i would like to agree with you i can't. Sure. This country was founded on Christian principles and you little lefties and atheists can rant about that all you want it's the truth. Our founders WERE christian and even a deist believes in the one true God of Abraham. I can't help it if you have been successfully brainwashed and led astray by your teachers and professors. They have lied to you. They have made you hate God, your country, our military, patriotism, nationalism, christians and the right. I don't blame you 100 percent but you're definitely going to be the ones to pay for it. But back to this christian nation thing, Cricket. Would you call our politicians christian? Our lying muslim supporting very probably closet muslim presidebt? would you call him Christian? How about our courts, our justice system. OUR leaders. Are they really christians. Look at Kings and Chronicles. Very probably a good many of the judeans were good jews but their kings weren't. hardly any of them. But all suffered under the judgement of Judah because of her leaders. Even the prophets. Take a good look at our secular humanist Jim Wallis leading left that goes to 'church'. They are an abomination if you go by the Bible. Most of our citizens, even when they identify themselves as christian know nothing about what the Bible says, any of the tenets of Christianity. On facebook this past week..'my jesus would eat at Chick-fil-a. Well Jesus is perfect and none of us are. So just how arrogant do you have to be to say where Jesus would eat. So as far as what we believe and just how good christians we are...i'm gonna have to say, no. we are no longer a christian nation. Not sayin' we can't reclaim it. In spite of the hatefilled secular left. We've had religious re-awakenings before and we're long overdue. Wouldn't that drive the left absolutely livid.
     
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    Can you be specific? Are you referring to the requirement that Catholic employers cover birth control? If so, I do not see the problem. All organistation, whether religious or not should be held equal before the law. Would you allow a Jehovah's Witness employer to not cover blood transfusions?

    That may seem facetious but consider the following court case that has occured in my own country. The state ruled that doctors in a hospital would be allowed to give a newborn child a blood transfusion if necassary (the child's medical condition suggested it may very well be necassary) despite the fact that the child's parents objected on religious grounds. While it may be acceptable for someone to endanger their own life by refusing a transfusion, in the case of a child it amounts to criminal neglect (in my view). So to repeat, would you allow a Jehovah's Witness employer to refuse to cover blood transfusions on religious grounds?
     
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    So what? Are they gonna put atheists on a balance by the river? 90%+ Japanese are atheists, do you call Japan an "atheist nation" ? No, you call it the wetdream land of computer geeks and game nerds.

    Look, let's be fair, if your gonna put up a nativity scenen on city property, I won't feel offended, in the same way I find it cute a little girl smashed his piggy banks, buys a unicorn statue, then erect it inside the city hall. Fairy tales and other whimsicality really isn't that bad.

    But a cross or ten-commandments? Hey, separation of the church and state is a constitutional mandate.

    I prefer the term "Hichensian/Dawkinsian thoughts". But since they are all propaganda, why bother stretching a nerve?

    No, nope Ma'am, we can change that, and America is being changed. The overwhelming majority of the science community is atheistic, and the Christian population in America is declining.


    N Koreans have their own Jesus, son of beloved leader, King Il Sung. China has the largest Christian population in Asia. Because people there are still largely under-educated.

    Evolution is a theory that best describes the fact, backed up by mountains of objective and empirical evidence, proved at multiple level on an interdisciplinary basis.


    Or just claim to "believe in God", if you are succesful and productive, you believe in your own ability other than the magical power of others.



    Ooooh, a girl wearing tooth bracelet and thick glasses due to the excessive reading of the bible is so secksy! Yaaak!

    You got be joking yourself if you think Katy Perry is a staunch Jesus freak!??


    So you believes evolution eh? That's schizophrenic. On the other hand, I prefer a southern baptist/evangelical blonde with a strong country vibe. Because they are usually simple-minded and good looking. An independent, well-versed female may be kept as great company, but definitely not a keeper.

    Oh and, I'm gonna shower her with my unhealthy skepticism every night from a missionary position and convert her to obscenity. Take that!
     
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    So what? Are they gonna put atheists on a balance by the river? 90%+ of Japanese are atheists, do you call Japan an "atheist nation" ? No, you call it the wetdream land of computer geeks and game nerds.

    Look, let's be fair, if your gonna put up a nativity scenen on city property, I won't feel offended, in the same way I find it cute that a little girl smashed his piggy banks, buys a unicorn statue, then erect it inside the city hall. Fairy tales and other whimsicality really isn't that bad.

    But a cross or ten-commandments? Hey, separation of the church and state is a constitutional mandate.

    I prefer the term "Hichensian/Dawkinsian thoughts". But since they are all propaganda, why bother stretching a nerve?

    No, nope Ma'am, we can change that, and America is being changed. The overwhelming majority of the science community is atheistic, and the Christian population in America is declining.


    N Koreans have their own Jesus, son of beloved leader, King Il Sung. China has the largest Christian population in Asia. Because people there are still largely under-educated.

    Evolution is a theory that best describes the fact, backed up by mountains of objective and empirical evidence, proved at multiple level on an interdisciplinary basis.


    Or just claim to "believe in God", if you are succesful and productive, you believe in your own ability other than the magical power of others.



    Ooooh, a girl wearing tooth bracelet and thick glasses due to the excessive reading of the bible is so secksy! Yaaak!

    You got be joking yourself if you think Katy Perry is a staunch Jesus freak!??


    So you believes evolution eh? That's schizophrenic. On the other hand, I prefer a southern baptist/evangelical blonde with a strong country vibe. Because they are usually simple-minded and good looking. An independent, well-versed female may be kept as great company, but definitely not a keeper.

    Oh and, I'm gonna shower her with my unhealthy skepticism every night from a missionary position and convert her to obscenity. Take that!
     
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    Obama made a special law and forced insurance companies to cover it. if you do not see a problem you are nothing more than a partisan hack that loves Obama no matter how much he abuses hid power.

    You are comparing apples to oranges. Obama is not saving lives he is forcing Catholic Church to provide abortion pills that kill lives
     
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    For a thread about America being a Christian nation this doesn't feel very Christian.
     

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