Us Military playing dangerous game.Practically daring Tehren Iran to attack first.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Not a symptom, imo.

    The crafted end product.

    They needed tentacles in many directions, to give it the totally disprortionate influnce it has today, and god knows what sort of nuke arsenal, 300 warheads, and ships from Germany, at a discount....as 'holocaust compensation'...:no:

    Lol...come on, it's truly beyond chutzpah.. ;)

    Do you actually know the sheer scale of organised crime, that flows out of 'israel', and moves unchallenged, in and out of the US?

    HUGE.

    Massive, and at the v top level.

    Think of the biggest mafia racket that you can.

    That, but bigger.

    In the end, it is up to Americans what they do, it's their country, and to be honest, I have reached the conclusion that some are way past even bothering with, no matter what you show, no matter what you can give evidence of, either they just do not care, or they get extremely defensive, they defend people that have lied, and will lie to them, the biggest of lies, by venting their spleen at the person(s) showing them where the wolf is.

    If it were not for the fact that they are a global danger, they could tear each other apart if they wanted.
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    creating lots of organisations, that is v much a Zionist policy, the create countless org's, some may not even appear to openly support Israel or Zionsim, they have grand names like, using key words like Global, World, etc, as if they are mandated, somehow, by the people of the world!

    They aren't.

    Most have no idea who they are, what they do, and the inner workings of them, how they are funed, who serves on their board, etc, etc..

    Some will pass themselves off as 'civil rights groups'.

    Others as commentators on 'economic affairs'.

    Others will sound grand, and be a self appointed authority on 'ME affairs'.

    These org's are bogus, there is no reason for them all to exist, from the point of view of a nation, esp when some v suspect people start popping up as chariman or whatever, of about ten of them.

    It is a literal labirinyth of org's, designed to create a fog.
     
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    Okay, Okay,, then can we agree that they (joos) are the best at it, then? LOL
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    The Zionists Occupation Government spokesmen

    [video=youtube;2VJBkoLHMAM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJBkoLHMAM[/video]
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Yes, and the most prolific.

    :)

    All just coincidence, sure, there is some zionist jew influence, but hey, look, we don't have a Jewish President, so how's that, eh, eh, eh?

    Also, there are other special interest groups, just as strong as AIPAC.

    Like those that represent Native Americans.

    No one mentions them.

    Why not?

    By not mentioning them, this is your when you were younger..... ;)

    [video=youtube;J8A0uUYuId8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8A0uUYuId8[/video]

    There.

    So either talk about say Vlad the Impaler, or you are that little girl.
     
  6. highlander

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    To stop the cowardly actions of your degenerate military, under orders from AIPAC!

    Perhaps .... Just perhaps. .... if enough take umbrage to comments like these .......Someone will grow balls!

    But most likely .......An American woman!

    Now that is slander ....... but again ......possibly true!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  7. dixon76710

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    Less so in the US than it is in your country sooooo not sure of your point.
     
  8. Jack Napier

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    Don't be silly, Dixon.
     
  9. homerjay_s

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    The desired "end product" is ever increasing concentration of global domination and control on the hands of the global corporate elite. Zionist Israel is a tool to that end, just as the US, or the existence of any state as the abstract manifestation of the monopolization of the use of violent force. It's a means of control. That's all they care about. Not nationalities. Not cultural identity, nor religion, nor race, nor morality. They are only interested in maintaining control. Zionist Israel is merely a small cog in that machine.
     
  10. danielpalos

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    In my opinion, our wasteful wars on the abstractions of Crime, Drugs, Poverty, and Terror, are an unnecessary and improper use of the police power on the part of the general government. Our federal Congress is only delegated the power to "legislate in all cases" in the federal districts.

    By what latitude of construction could our wars on abstractions fall under the general powers to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

     
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    I think they are on par.

    The US says, "I'll see your CCTV face recognition camera network, and raise you information requests of facebook and twitter with no warrant".

    The UK says, "I'll call that bet, AND I'll raise you black boxes put on all the lines to automatically harvest information off people's networks!"

    The US says, "Oooh playing hardball huh? Well we're going to have spy drones operated by the police all over CONUS by 2015! What do you have to say about that?"

    etc. etc. it goes on ... I'm not sure who's winning at the moment.
     
  12. dixon76710

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    Name even one civil liberty available in the UK, not available in the US.
     
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    Another way to put it would be to imagine a sea-urchin. It's very smooth and soft and mushy on the inside, but it's surrounded by a hard shell with lots of spikes.

    The threat to them was started by British business interests, and the problem somehow got taken over by Uncle Sam... sort of like how U.S. inherited France's problem in Vietnam.

    Like how whats-his-name Ahmadinejad said Israel should be wiped off the map.

    They got so screwed by the west that stability in that nation is based upon a combination of the outer-shell maintaining an absolutely hard stand combined with the inner workings of the nation becoming economically stable.

    What they're not telling you is how the middle/lower class in Iran are not complaining about their day-to-day standards of living. It means the Mullahs have implemented a program of internal economic order sort-of like how german nazis maintained internal economic order throughout the second world war.... germans did such a good job of that it wasn't until the last six months of the war that the people saw something was truly wrong.

    Something possibly not well understood in the west is that Persians are a fundamental people. They are not Arabs, they are not 'stanis, and they are not Indian. They know they are a fundamental people like British, French and Italian. It means they'll fight to the end because there's nowhere else for them to go.

    Pretend France had oil, and imagine British Petroleum organized a coup to get their guy into the king-ship of France so BP could get the oil cheep instead of just a fair profit.

    How do you think France would react?

    Iran's neighbors understand her better than NY-MBAs following orders to stick fingers up their asses from the outside in order to scrub their butts with silk shorts.

    Any Diplomat worth his salt would tell Iran that if she goes nuclear than everyone around her is going to have her targeted, such that all she's done is guarantee her right to exist. For that matter, Uncle Sam could re-target all missiles that used to be pointed at the Soviet Union onto that smaller territory, ensuring obliteration, in exchange for all the other nations doing something like pitch more into the UN...

    ... and a clever Diplomat would suggest Iran rename herself back to Persia, and to rebuild her empire by taking over those dicky little 'stani republics the Soviets used to keep in order.

    Bottom line is we want their oil, and some suits in NY scrubbing their asses with rough corn-cobs haven't got the brains to trade back what we have that they want, which (among other things) is the world's best food, (before the lazy shareholders of Monsanto with their servant MBAs reaping dividends so they can lay fat on a beach in the Bahamas being served rum by beautiful young hotties found a new way to be king).
     
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    Wouldn't we be doing ourselves a favor, by establishing a more perfect Union of States, bound together for their mutual welfare?
     
  15. highlander

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    Wars of abstraction ....... nothing abstract about it ....... its genocide, murder, assassination, torture, secret prisons..... whats an "wars on abstractions"
    And hang on in there ......... and who do you suppose takes in the drugs????
    Pray tell who has the billions of dollars need just to ship the bloody stuff? It isn't joe the plumber ........ its the organised crime syndicates, CIA FBI etc!

    Look up on the internet, Afghanistan opium production has gone up, 90% of all herion comes from Afghanistan since "America" invaded!

    Well these AIPAC members must of been losing money when the Taliban stopped the drugs trade from Afghanistan!

    And what does it matter ...... a corrupt political system you deserve!

    And as for defense of the USA ....... bollocks ....... its wars of aggression by the USA against defenseless nations to steal a sovereign nations minerals and wealth!

    Highlander
     
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    Straight down the line truth-telling. Some posters obfuscate. Not this one.
     
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    Medical care. Also the legal age for certain things is lower.
     
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    lol

    Iran will NOT attack first. Talk about mindless absurdity.

    How silly would they be to fall into such an obvious trap.

    The USA will stage a global event and blame it on Iran. Z.Brzezinski (CFR, co-founder Trilateral Commission) and Gary Hart are just two globalists, and members of the Council on Foreign relations that have strongly suggested that when the US goes to war with Iran, that it will be under a false pretense.

    The War with Iran will happen after Syria falls into an Iraq-like state, and after Lebanon is split into various regions, sit tight.
     
  19. Stuart Wolfe

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    Wouldn't mindless absurdity account for most of human history?
     
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    Hmmm, I can see your point.

    I'm just saying, if it is reported that Iran fired first, you can bet your life, it was a staged event. This is unfortunately how government works today.

    From the Bush-Blair 2003 Iraq memo's, we're Bush proposed flying U-2 spy planes over Iraq to be shot down by Saddam to justify a military intervention in Iraq, to the now declassified Operation Northwoods that called for false flag attacks on US interests blamed on Cuba, including the downing of drone planes over Cuba...Not to mention Gary Hart (CFR) and Brzezinski (CFR, Trilateral) openly stating that the US government is looking for a way to stage a conflict with Iran, and a false flag is looking likely. Not to mention former CIA officer openly admitting that there are plans for Iranian invasion that have been drawn up to include the use of tactical nukes. And that Iran will be invaded after a "second 9/11", he goes on to say "As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States." - this coming from former CIA officer, Philip Giraldi.

    Chance are, Iran is well aware of the fact that if they strike first, they lose any hope of a moral high ground, not to mention the fact Iran itself (Not via proxy) hasn't initiated aggression or attacked another country in living memory. So the chances of Iran striking first is downright abhorrent. Especially when you consider all the evidence that the US administration is looking for a way to engage Iran in an entrapment. Just like they did Iraq.

    WAKE UP FOLKS, it's called a false flag attack. The US administration has even discussed building Iranian boats, filling them with US Navy seals and getting this boat to fire upon US boats in the Strait of Hormuz. Keep all this in mind when "something" happens which is blamed on Iran, there is a 99% chance that Iran would have NOTHING to do with it.
     
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    Not to be tortured, not to imprisoned with out due process, mmmmm.... not to be sodomised, raped, strangled to death assassinated, to have access to legal representation, to be allowed to live your life in relative freedom!

    Do you want me to go on?

    Would you like some examples...... no problem!
    http://uruknet.info/?p=m90632&hd=&size=1&l=e

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32424

    Worse still....
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26690

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31496

    http://www.sott.net/articles/show/2...while-the-elite-stash-trillions-in-tax-havens

    We in Scotland have always suffered from the vagrancies of corrupt politics and policies of parasitic bodies!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    right on..you hit the nail right on the target....
     
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    I am just glad that we shouldn't need to reduce social spending for real persons if we can afford to waste our exorbitantly expensive superpower on such mediocre foreign policies, with the Peoples' tax monies; since, by no latitude of construction is there any delegated power to provide for the common offense or the general warfare of the United States.
     
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    No, because you just made the (*)(*)(*)(*) up above.


    LOLOLOL!!!! So you give top billing as your example of a civil liberty available in the UK, not available in the US, and its a UK journalist fired for his views and the American state department voicing their opposition to the suppression of his speech. lolol!!! yOU ARE MAKING MY POINT FOR ME.
     
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    Actually, it's straight down the line propaganda from an anti-American & anti-Israeli xenophobe. He went over the cliff at "genocide"...:bored:
     
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