Seems God gets blamed for all the bad things that happen, like hurricanes, earthquakes, and tsunamis. Now the cons are blaming God for rape. God creates, evil destroys. God didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, evil did. Hm, that means God didn't create the GOP, evil did. My bad. No wait, God creates...like God created evil,...God DID create the GOP. I was correct the first time.
My religion does not only have the support of the Bible, my religon compiled the Bible. Also there is historical evidence to say yes that people martyred themselves for Christianity. That Christianity spread at a miraculous rate through the world. There is evidence that Jesus did probably exist. There was many books about Jesus what do you think the Bible is compiled of. Please do not call my religion a joke.
The obvious truth is that Richard Mourdock did what many religionists attempt to do: warp his reasoning to accept and embrace an unrealistic absolutist position, in this case where abortion is concerned. Defending the denial of abortion rights to women means defending rape and incest in a way, which has clearly led him to proclaim that it's all part of the divine plan. It's so stupid that people are concerning themselves over others' embryos.. The only thing worse has to be denying people all forms of contraceptive, as the Catholics so often do. It's one thing if these nuts want to regard their own embryos this way, but they really need to leave others alone about it. It's simply not their business, and a zygote or embryo hardly qualifies as a human life. Not until late-term, when abortion already tends to be illegal, anyway, except in emergencies.
The Catholic Church is "anti Christ" .. look at the history of this church since Constantine .. all the genocide, murder, torture, theft, rape, persecution of the Jews (Gods Chosen people) and so on. Utter nastyness... if anything it was the Orthadox church that retained some of the ways of Christ .. certainly not the Catholic. This is the church that does exactly the opposite of what Christ preaced (the anti-Christ). How can you say that such an evil organization was "established by God" ?
Well lets not also forget all the nastiness done by people within the Protestant churches. Like executing people who would not renounce their faith. Denying Catholics from going to mass. Destroying images and Churches, stealing from the Church. Sticking hot pokers in their mouths. Not allowing them to take jobs own houses, etc, etc. Though I would not blame every Protestant for these actions this went quite against their Christian values they committed these acts in spite of their faith not because of it, which is exactly what you are implying about Catholicism your ignorance is deplorable go read a book. Many evils have been committed by many people within the Catholic Church, but it was not because they were Catholic they committed these acts. I can say that the Church was established by God because it was and we have historical proof and it is evident in the Bible as well.
You have historical proof that the Church was established by your God? Please show this proof, and while you're at it, kindly also provide proof that this God existed at the time.
i was debating with someone who was calling the Catholic Church the anti-Christ. They said that the Catholic Church went completey against the teachings of Christ. Therefore they must be agreeing that Christ did exist, i was stating that Christ established the Catholic Church. Maybe I should not have said God, but when he was mentioning Jesus I was assuming he accepted Jesus was God as well, that assumption may have been wrong. However there is evidence that Jesus established the Catholic Church, historical and biblical evidence. So if Jesus was God as all Christians beleive then yes, God established the Catholic Church. i never said I can provide proof for the existence of God, but all the evidence points toward the existence of God it is more of a rational and logicla assumption. To think God does not exist is completely absurd, when given all the evidence.
Obama tends to avoid stating extraordinarily stupid things on the topic of religion. Republicans? Not so much.
No. Someone can claim that Darth Vader goes against the teachings of Yoda without actually believing either one existed.
Your question does not follow Mourdoch's statement that God intends rape to happen. The difference is enormous as to what God is. Mourdoch's statement reflectsn a fatalistic view of God that is actively controlling every aspect of what happens on Earth, and that He intends and causes every pregnancy. That is a far different supposition that the premis of your question, which puts God in a more passive role in which he does not "cause" or intends things to happen but "allows" them to happen. Mourdoch's statemetn is pretty scary because it excuses evil like rape as God's intent and will. But OTOH, if you you are going to take that kind of fatalistic view, you'd also have to say that God intended Roe v. Wade and 50 million abortions to happen, because obviously He did not want those pregnancies to become born children.
Then that someone making such a claim without believing in the existence of Darth Vader and Yoda, is delusional.
I'm sure we all have said things that when we look back at it really didn't come out the right way and so it leads people to misinterpret what we really meant or were trying to convey over to them. What the senator really meant was that God allows us freedom of choice or free will and so you are allowed to do what is righteous or what is evil instead of making it sound like God is behind all this evil and making you do it when the senator said God intends rape. The act of raping is an evil choice made by an individual, God doesn't want you to do evil deeds, He really wants all of us to do good deeds but again at the same time He will allow you to do evil deeds and will not stop you and so as I have already mentioned He has given all of us free will.
I'm not sure that is what the Senator meant at all. And the Senator certainly did imply that God intends rape if you believe that God intended this pregnancy and wanted it to be brought to term. If God allows choice (God is pro-choice), and rape is an evil deed, then God would allow that woman subjected to this evil to remove its evil seed. I made this in large font since you apparently believe that makes the point more persuasive.
Two things; First the above post is a perfect example of how belief allows one to twist the truth to fit any situation seemingly to solidify the integrity of their belief. It's nonsense. Second even if that was what the senator meant then he believes when one person through their God given free will takes away anothers God given free will by raping them the victim must through their God given free will have the baby instead of aborting it if they don't want to be considered evil in Gods eyes.
Two evils doesn't make it right. Raping is evil ...abortion is evil because it is killing. The fetus that is aborted is innocent and so it should not be killed.
Two wrongs certainly don't make a right. Raping is evil and forcing the rape victim to birth the child of that evil is evil. If this is the will of your God he is immoral at best.
God did not commit the evil...it is people who are immoral...remember God has giving all of us free will to choose what is righteous or what is evil...sadly there are people choosing evil! God is always righteous, He is Holy and is perfect.
Well since God didn't intend the rape or the resulting pregnancy, it is no violation of God's intent to abort the result of the evil since God didn't intend it.
God knew the evil would be committed before it was actually committed. Long before the person was even born. You are attempting to remove blame from God, however, the shoelaces get in your way and cause you to fall. Instead of simply getting up, brushing yourself off, and tieing the shoelaces, you take another step, tripping over them again. Omnipotence is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
Are you trying to re-write the Holy Bible which is the Word of God? Should we make some kind of amendment in the Holy Bible?...lol
Keep going, we've almost come full circle. The baby, that was conceived through rape was Gods will. The woman (who is usually at the short end of the religious and or republican stick) who was RAPED doesn't deserve to abort the evil that was done to her and apparently doesn't even need to be mentioned. If this is the will of your God he is at best immoral.
