Obama : Called Bengahzi incident an act of terror.

but nonetheless accurate.

 

Saying hes the least ever isn't the same as being the least ever.
Yes he fundamentally wanted to change it, and ran up against a brick wall.
But, he has managed to do a few minor things like save the country from depression.

 

The video was blasted all over the Arab world the week prior.. Have you forgotten that they destroyed the US Embassy in Tunisia and the Ambassador went into hiding?

 

Really, I must have missed it. do you have a link to their claim?

yes its worked out fairly well.

So, MB is now the ruling party in Egypt. They were duly elected, but I forgot that americans only like emerging democracy when it turns out the way they want it to. MB in Egypt has eschewed violence for decades. they have tempered their outlook to be a lot more realistic. They are even willing to play ball with the US. But of course there will always be paranoid anti-democratic muslim haters in the world.
Libya has already rejected Islamists.

I sorry, did you miss the elections?

Yes, I think it does. Not your notion or my notion of freedom but freedom nonetheless. it will be up to the egyptian people to chart their own course. Seems you aren't willing to acknowledge that.

try not to repeat yourself. There is no evidence of him lying in his UN speech.

simply claiming I lied isn't going to make the truth go away. YOu can make dumb statements of nonfact all day long. YOu have yet to support your claims of lying and apologizing. Pull out the transcripts and indicate to me where he lied. Or do you merely regurgitate the talking points without actually knowing the truth of them. If you are so sure, show us all where he lied.

come around anytime when you feel the need to get topped up. I will ensure you eyes remain brown.

 

You really trying to claim its accurate? Only a bufoon would make such a claim

 

Really? Does this make the situation better for the one term Marxist, or worse?
Does this make the situation better for his minion, secretary of state Hillary Clinton, or worse?
Does this make the situation better for his other minion, secretary of defense Pansy Panetta, or worse?

Does it matter whether *I* know this or not?

If everything you say is true then why didn't Pansy Panetta move the appropriate forces closer to decision points?
If everything you say is true then why didn't secstate Clinton insist that her state department employees get American protection or close down the consulate in Benghazi?

 

U.S. embassies attacked in Yemen, Egypt after Libya envoy killed
Sep 13, 2012
(excerpts)
(Reuters) - Demonstrators attacked the U.S. embassies in Yemen and Egypt on Thursday in protest at a film they consider blasphemous to Islam, and American warships headed towards Libya after the U.S. ambassador there was killed in related violence this week. In Libya, authorities said they had made four arrests in the investigation into the attack that killed ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americas in Benghazi on Tuesday. President Barack Obama has vowed to bring to justice those responsible for the Benghazi attack, which U.S. officials said may have been planned in advance, possibly by an al Qaeda-linked group.

Demonstrations spread further on Thursday, with U.S. embassies again the targets of popular anger among Muslims questioning why the United States has failed to take action against the makers of the film. Hundreds of Yemenis broke through the main gate of the heavily fortified U.S. embassy compound in the capital Sanaa, shouting "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God." They smashed windows of security offices outside the embassy and burned cars.

In Egypt, protesters hurled stones at a police cordon around the U.S. embassy in central Cairo after climbing into the embassy compound and tearing down the American flag. The state news agency said 13 people were hurt in violence which erupted late on Wednesday, following initial protests on Tuesday. Around 200 demonstrators gathered outside the U.S. embassy in Kuwait shouting slogans such as "God is great." They hoisted banners, one of which bread in English: "USA stop the bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Respect us."

On Thursday, the U.S. consulate in Berlin was partially evacuated after an employee fell ill on opening a suspicious envelope. Bangladeshi Islamists tried to march on the U.S. embassy in Dhaka and Iranian students protested in Tehran. Earlier in the week, there were protests outside U.S. missions in Tunisia, Morocco and Sudan.

The U.S. ambassador to Libya was killed during a protest against the film on Tuesday at the U.S. consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi when Islamists armed with guns, mortars and grenades staged military-style assaults on the mission and a safe house refuge.

 

Whether or not President Obama considers the Libyan people of Benghazi who are tired of the US and European backed terrorist murder squads they call "The Islamic Brotherhood" acts of terrorism does not matter. The US has long lost right, presuming they ever had one, to criticize other people's reaction to its madness.
The time of the Accusers (US, Europe and other White Supremacist powers) is over as is evident by the nations of the Liars, Murderers, Deceivers and Miscreants experiencing internal strife, Weather Patterns of Mass Destruction (WPMD), etc.

 

An initial e-mail was sent while the attack was still underway, and another that arrived two hours later -- sent from a State Department address to various government agencies including the executive office of the president -- identified Ansar al-Sharia as claiming responsibility for the attack on its Facebook page and on Twitter.​

So they claim during the attack that they are responsible. And a little later they think better of it.

"Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence, and I think it just underscores how fluid the reporting was at the time and continued for some time to be," Clinton said.

Moreover, intelligence officials do not believe Ansar al-Sharia is solely responsible with indications now that some of the attackers were associated with al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and an Egyptian jihad network.

A spokesman for Ansar al-Sharia denied the group was responsible the day after the assault.​

Who dragged US ambassador Christopher Stevens’ dead body through the streets of Benghazi on Tuesday, kicking and punching the corpse and shouting Allahu Akbar, or God is Great? While nobody has confessed to the brutal assault on the US embassy in Benghazi, Libyan officials and analysts are pointing the finger at the heavily-armed Salafist group Ansar al-Sharia, or “Partisans of Islamic law”.

A fundamentalist group with links to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), . . .​

The rise of these Ansar al-Sharia groups points to an end of al Qaeda's unipolar global jihad of the past decade and a return to a multipolar jihadosphere, similar to the 1990s.​

The attack against the Americans took place in the city of Benghazi, a well known al-Qaeda power center, where alleged al-Qaeda gunmen who belong to Ansar al-Sharia carried out the attack on the Americans, captured the American ambassador and his staff before, paraded them on the streets, lynched them — Gaddafi style — and then killed them.​

You win. I cannot find a link. So I retract, for now, my claim that they have said so.

 

He shouldnt have made promises he couldnt keep

 

Okay. Eventually the truth comes out.

CBS News is continuing to draw fire for withholding footage of a Sept. 12 interview with President Barack Obama in which he said it was "too early to tell" whether or not the previous day's attack in Benghazi, Libya, had been an act of terror.

That remark, which was not included in the "60 Minutes" package that first aired on Sept. 23, was also left out of a subsequent package that aired in the days following the second presidential debate, when President Obama said that he had called the attack "an act of terror" in his Rose Garden address on Sept. 12, which took place before the interview. The remark was not released until yesterday, a fact Bret Baier of Fox News called attention to earlier today.​

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media...thholding-obamas-benghazi-remarks-148513.html

So the one term Marxist makes a general, throwaway statement that appears to me to be an apology to radical Islamists for American freedoms.
Then he goes to CBS and begins his two week coverup lie that it was "too early to tell" whether or not the previous day's attack in Benghazi, Libya, had been an act of terror.

Yeah. He has to go.

 

Get back to me if you suddenly have an original thought.

 

Obuma said it was terrorists in the rose garden, then at the UN he blamed it on the video

MB, libya and egypt are steeped up to their necks in muslims and radical muslims influence. You really think the culture over there is going to change? hahhahahah

Libya has rejected Islamism? doo do doo do,,,twilight zone music being teed up

Yea, you are one of those who hides his face in a book and then after much reading and studying can tell people why they arent cleaning their babies butts properly when they change their diapers, but has never changed a diaper in their life.

 

Yes, I am claiming it is accurate.

The right has been using ginned up semantic misintepretations throughout the campaign.

"you didn't build that"
"apology tour"
"lied at the UN"

Only a buffoon or a semantically challenged rightie could actually believe that garbage.

 

prove he blamed it on the video at the UN.

Of course they are steepin in muslim influence, they are 95 to 100% muslim countries. Tell me in your great land of democracy do you have crazy militia people running around? do you have your fair share of radical evangelicals? granted they dont usually blow fellow american up, but they are fanatical nutbars just the same.
Will they change. Of course they will change as democracy takes hold. It has that kind of effect on societies. Maybe you should pick up a history book sometime. Might be rather informative.

do you know the difference between a muslim and and an Islamist? If you don't, I won't be surprised since many americans are totally ignorant of foreign cultures.

Now that is a poingnant piece of irrelevant crap.

 

Do you get a large discount on tin foil and make your own hats, or do you purchase them ready made?

 

Sometimes original thoughts are overated .. especially when they IGNORE the facts...

 

that was a total lie about dragging the body thru the streets perpetrated by morons who saw the video of the body being removed from the embassy by libyans and who don't understand a lick of arabic. He wasn't punched, he wasn't dragged thru the streets, he wasn't raped as the more extreme idiots claim.

[video=youtube;xidIpwHAYC8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xidIpwHAYC8&feature=related[/video]

I don't doubt that there are any number of autonomous jihadi groups. All of them with completely local objectives, not the global objective of bringing down the great satan that AQ had. I do not beleive benghazi to be a "well known" AQ power center - do you have any sources to back that up? Your assertion of parading the dead boies, lynching and then killing them is completely and totally bogus as per the cnn video above,.

fair enough. in the end it isnt about winning or losing, its about revealing the truth and understanding events to the best of our limited abilities.

cheers

 

Uh-huh. The one term Marxist has many apologists on many boards. All you sound very similar.

 

Did you, or did you not say that in the week prior to Obama's Benghazi Massacre the terrorist thugs attacked other US embassies and consulates?

Post a block of text if you like. If you do have you considered pointing out why you believe it is relevant?

 

and many detractors of the black president are also to be found on many boards. You all sound IDENTICAL. imagine that.

I don't think you would know what a marxist is if he ran you over with his prolechariot.

 

My point was the consistency of the beliefs that Ansar al-Sharia is linked to Al Qaeda.

It has been two months. Will we ever hear an American tell us what happened to Stevens? Was he battered and bruised? If so is it consistent with panic in a smoke-filled building? Was he choked to death, "lynched them — Gaddafi style —"?

Have you seen the SECRET cable that Stevens sent to Clinton three weeks before the attack? He believed it was well known. He wrote of training camps.

The cable went on to include “the location of approximately ten Islamist militias and AQ training camps within Benghazi.… [T]hese groups ran the spectrum from Islamist militias, such as the QRF Brigade and Ansar al-Sharia, to ‘Takfirist thugs.’”​

Some had already been identified as linked to Al Qaeda. Some were local thugs.

That was not my assertion. We were conversing about whether or not Ansar al-Sharia said they were linked to Al Qaeda. I was showing that over and over again the bad guys were Ansar al-Sharia and that time and time again they are identified as linked to Al Qaeda.

 

No.. I said the video was blasted into the ME the week before the first Embassy assault in Cairo.

Our capabilities are limited.. our manpower is precious.. Let's at least try to honestly find out the facts instead of getting so (*)(*)(*)(*)ed hung up on "getting the libs".

 

After tonight it will not matter. Our flirtation with Marxism will be over. Or, if he should win, the US is over and we will become a unique flavor of socialism roughly in the form of Marxist European socialism. Hope will be lost for the rest of my lifetime. I do not believe we could recover from such a blow.

 

I have done my share. Your turn.