Obama : Called Bengahzi incident an act of terror.

I'm just seeing if you're consistent. This Libya incident is considerably tamer than the coverups of previous presidents.

And when it comes to Obama's coverups, I'd say the ongoing questionable methods employed with renditions and Gitmo leave a lot more to be worried about than this consulate mess.

 

seems he's not the only one to fool you all with their lies

remember Monica?
remember WMD's in Iraq?

 

Yes, I do...

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Seriously? a russian report with details about what transpired aboard US naval ships? You're kidding right? If that is the level of penetration of russian spys and or/ their ability to listen in on US naval comms then america has way more troubles than anything in benghazi.

 

He was trying to cover the highly illegal arms smuggling covert op by the CIA coordinated by the ambassador with the turks.
He obfuscated for a while until the shipment left benghazi, made its way to turkey and was then smuggled in to syria. all in all I bet an operation like that might take a week or so to complete. maybe more. He could do little more than try to keep a lid on things so that the ambassador and his companions didn't die in vain, and take the political shytestorm the right was surely going to generate as indicated by Romney's atrocious accusation of the president being a terrorist sympathizer while the attacks were still going on.

 

Perhaps, but I thought the attack was made by Al Quida elements. If the manuevers of the ambassador involved smuggling arms to Syrian rebels, wouldn't that actually be something somewhat in Al Quida's interests? The rebels are primarily Sunni.

 

I believe that you are right that Obama is supplying Islamist radicals with heavy weapons taken from Libya.

That does not excuse the president's failure to defend the Consulate. That does not excuse the president's failure to get out of the military's way and let them defeat the Islamist radicals who were attacking the consulate and the CIA Annex.

What did you find objectionable about Romney's statement after the regime in Cairo apologized for America's freedoms?

 

DID a US ambassador get assasinated in the Iran Contra thingy?

Go tell the parents of Ty Woods, Doherty and Sean Smith that what happened was a "mess".

 

I use to actually feel sorry for the civilians losing their lives every time one of your insane suicide bombers would blow themselves up and take 10 or 20 others with them. Now we have drinking parties everytime a suicide bomber goes off in the ME. how many died in this one? 22, cool, means every one takes 22 shots of vodka tonight and we can all sing "good riddence of 22 more devil worshipping muslims"

Man have I been getting drunk a lot lately. And now you will know Im celebrating every time one of your ilk blows themselves up, and we all take a heavy swing with a baseball bat to help usher his ass into hell.

 

Glen Doherty was with CIA in Yemen also.

Look.. if the Abassador and Sean Smith hadn't been locked up in the safe room that had no fire suppression or ventilation he might have survived the attack.

Do you think any of those men thought this was a picnic or risk free?

 

What you said may or may not be true. But it still doesnt change the fact that Obama has beeen going around exclaiming that al quiada is on the run,
Then when we had the first ambassador assasinated in nearly 40 years by terrorists, he knew it was going to make his re election efforts difficult and it would make him look bad.

So he lied.
Now he is covering it up.

So in one fell swoop, he has accomplished what took two administrations by two presidents over 16 years did, illegally sending arms behind the backs of the american people, lie about it, then get caught covering it up.

 

Yes, I agree that the president should have rambo'd out, standing in front of the rented house with both guns blazing. For sure he would have been reelected if a picture like that go out.

I found a) the "regime" didn't apologize for squat b) I found romney accusing the president of being an enemy sympathizer to be disgusting.

And he isn't arming Islamist radicals. Unless of course you think that the free syrian army is exactly that.

 

No one is exactly sure of who the group responsible for the attack was, but it seems the flying fickle finger points to Ansar Al Sharia - a libyan Islamist militia. Who may or may not have had ties with AQ.

And no, just because the sunni are the majority does not mean automatic entre to power for AQ, just like it hasn't in libya. From the way some people talk, you'd think that AQ was comprised of hundreds of thousands of fighters, when I bet there ain't more than a few thousand with a few thousand other nutbars running around perverting the name of Allah.

 

AQ is on the run. Its leadership is in tatters. Its "brand" is being adopted by other nutbars, but as to AQs ability to globally coordinate, that seems to have been destroyed.

Is there an american anywhere that would object to sending arms to the syrian free army as well as logisitical aid? Is there an american anywhere that thinks the baathists of syria should remain in power?

I guess there are some americans that think he should have irresponisibly totally blown the operational security of mission for political purposes and some that don't. Funny how the people accusing him of making a political decision are the ones trying to make the entire incident a political hot potato, before the investigations are complete.

I would appreciate it if you can find a video clip of any of obamas speeches or interviews where he actually lied about the incident. Do you have any links of the "big lie"?

 

Okay. For a moment there I actually thought I was having a serious conversation with a serious person. I was wrong.

 

LOL. Sure. And the attack on the Consulate is a figment of our imaginations.

Yeah, well, providing heavy weapons to Islamist radicals is just the thing for this president. Just see how well it has worked so far in Libya and Egypt.

The president will not escape this. How many months of investigation will it take before the president finds out what he did or failed to do?

Why do you think that matters? The presidents minions went out and lied on his behalf. But if you want evidence of him lying google his 2012 UN speech.

But you won't will you? Or if you do you will be right back here 'splaining how the loying SOB's words didn't really mean what he said. Because that is what you do.

 

Ya know, when terrorist cells spring up and affiliate themselves with AQ that means they have joined with AQ. Thats how groups grow, take in new members. You cant just list all the original members of AQ and consider any new terrorists, or terrorist groups to not be AQ.

Its the "war on terrorism", not the "war on al quiada", Bottom line is, AQ isnt the beginning and end of the war on terrorism,

You think if you elimate 5,000 AQ terrorists while another 10,000 terrorists "join up"
then thats progress in eliminating terrorism, just because AQ's actual numbers are down? You guys are so desperate. George Orwell, 1984

If nobody can show a video of an Obuma speech where he directly lied is because he doesnt, and never has ever said anything specific about anything.

I mean, you have to admit, that speech in the rose garden was written so he could go either way claiming what he said/meant.
............And if you are still gonna claim he said it was an act of terror, he didnt. For starters, he said ACTS, plural, which means a broad reference to many, not any one specific one.
... Then there is the fact that NOBODY who heard the speech went away thinking he just let us know that it was a terrorist attack. Everybody was still under the impression it was the video, you can actually go back and check the threads.
.....I'm willing to bet even the libs here were posting as though they believed it was the video that instigated the entire thing, and the video only.

 

You seem to have some weird idea that all Libyans are terrorists. Those guys in Libya were trying to do a difficult job and it went wrong.

 

The attack on the consulate and CIA annex was not a single act.

Embassies everywhere were under seige.... riots and demonstrations and flag burnings because of the video... and this administration was trying to protect what was left of a covert operation. Who's side are you on anyway?

 

What? Please walk me through your reasoning to come to this conclusion. I cannot wait. One of my current hobbies is understanding how our minds work.

 

Whatever side the president says he is on. I am on the other side. I prefer to be on the right side of history.
One more day and we can begin to get to the truth.

 

Naturally you are.........

 

Whatever the administration was trying to protect it obviously didn't try hard enough. Four Americans are dead and the reports of this alleged covert operation are all over the news.

Hopefully tomorrow will herald the end of this administration's gross negligence and incompetence...

 

You mean Blue Mountain Security?

Look at the big picture, Talon.. You are not a stupid man.

 

What President Obama really said in that '60 Minutes' interview about Benghazi