Ron Paul would have defeated Obama

Then amend the Constitution to give the federal government the authority to regulate that.

You explained your baseless opinion about what would happen. Got any examples of this happening in history?

Prove that wages are falling relatively "only" because of the recession.

Depends on who you're talking about. Folks on minimum wage can't see their wages fall. But they're not seeing their wages go up either, only prices.

Sure I do. You're the one who doesn't understand it. Feel free to explain how folks who have been making minimum wage for the past 5-6 years haven't seen a loss in purchasing power when prices have gone up 12% while their wages have remained constant.

 

Why amend it?

My opinion wasn't baseless at all. I explained the basis for it, that benefits would get cut off for many because many states would want cut them off to save money and because they wouldn't want to attract poor people.

After which you said "that's their problem." Remember?

Wages aren't falling. They are falling relatively. Why else would they be falling except for the recession? People have lost their jobs and businesses have tightened belts and cut costs to stay profitable.

Min wage was just increased.

They have seen a loss because of the recession.

 

Because the federal govt has no such authority right now. If you want it to, amend the Constitution.

Your opinion that that is what would happen is baseless. Got any examples of this happening in history?

So what?

And inflation. If people have wages that stay the same, like folks who have been on minimum wage the past 5-6 years, their wages are falling relative to prices.

Depends on how you define "just".

The recession didn't cause their wages to relatively fall. Inflation did.

 

Sure it does.

I disagree my opinion is baseless. I don't recall when in history entitlements have been decentralized.

So do you remember? You got all upset with me because when I pointed out that people would lose their benefits you said "that's their problem".

Then we need to increase their wages.

Sounds like Clinton and "is".

Nonesense. You still are not thinking relatively. People are paid wages based on the market. If you had no price increase wages would just derease more. If you had more inflation wages would increase more. Wages are paid based on parity and supply and demand.

 

Given that the media crucified two perfectly good Senatorial candidates on the basis of a couple of sentences, one can safely assume they'd have taken a flamethrower to a loose-lip like Ron Paul.

 

Prove it.

Other forum members have pointed out that different states have higher minimum wage rates than others. There goes your theory out the window.

We've already gone over this, and it was established that you took my quote out of context in an attempt to defame my character, which is part of your typical game-playing M.O. Others can see your deceitful dodge tactics and decide for themselves.

Who is "we"?

In that case, I disagree with your opinion that minimum wage was "just" increased.

You keep reiterating this claim but it has already been proven to be false several times. Folks on minimum wage will not see their wages decrease, and inflation has not caused them to increase.

Unless you're an employee who wants to be paid lower than minimum wage so that you can have a job.

 

So you think poor = black? Sounds racist to me ~

 

If he got fair media coverage he would have but so would have Romney. It would have been worse for Paul because he wouldn't even have had fair treatment from Fox.

 

And that is rich to the women in China making pennies an hour to make the clothes you wear.

 

Who cares what it is to Women in China. I am on Team American. Jobs for Americans. Solutions for Americans. (*)(*)(*)(*) the Chinese.

 

no, you are on team YOU, more than ready to accept anything, from any whore politician willing to take from others and give to you,..... in exchange for your vote.
You are a traitor to Americans.

 

So you think jobs for Americans is more important than cheap goods for Americans? There are more consumers than there are workers in this country. The health of the consumer is what is most important. Like all leftists, you believe in the Keynesian fallacy that creating jobs is what creates economic growth. That is completely false; jobs are the result of economic growth, not the cause. Low prices mean that employers have more money to create more jobs.

Low prices put upward pressure on economic growth, which puts upward pressure on the job rate...which means jobs are a lagging factor. We can see this happening right now, where the economy is growing but jobs are still at recession levels (but recovering). Outsourcing is amazing for the economy. Opening the American consumer to the free market of the world is what will make America strong. Not protectionist policies that harm the consumer, restrict the freedom to choose, and slow economic growth in the name of protecting Union and Worker special interests.

 

He's an oil executive??

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) straight he would have.Thats why the corrupt RNC convention changed its rules at the last minute and our corrupt court system thoughout the lawsuit delegates of romneys had against romney cause they knew if Paul got the republican nomination,it was game over for Obama.Paul would have ran away with it.

 

what could be more corrupt than ron paul's attempt to scam delegates?

 

He didn't. You just made that up.

 

sure he did, i didn't make anything up

 

I like Ron Paul about a thousand times better than both of the guys that ran this time. But realistically, there is no way in hell he could have won the election this year.

 

There is no way any candidate in the near future who believes in the constitution of the united states like Gary Johnson for instance and Ron Paul did who WILL win the election because we dont elect these people or put them in office.they are SELECTED for us by the Bilderberger group who have their yearly meetings each year.whomever they want for their new puppet,thats who they make president.they are more than satisified with the atrocities Obama has committed against the american people so they made sure he got reelected.

Nothing will ever change as long as we have this corrupt two party system of demopublicans and reprocrats in office.we need a third party president who will serve the people and follow the constitution like Johnson but that will never happen till the american sheople get off their arses and fight to take their country back from these corporations that have taken over the government.

 

what else is new? He ALWAYS does that.

 

You never proved that he lied. You just made it up.

 

Great. Now explain how that would do more damage to the citizens of our country than Obama will.

 

ron paul lied about not knowing about the racist content in his newsletters

 

Until you can prove that, YOU are the one who is lying. So far we only have lots of proof that Ron Paul is less of a racist than most democrats and republicans who back racist drug war, which overwhealmingly discriminates against BLACKS and minorities. I salute Ron Paul for not being racist like most politicians. your turn to provite some proof to your baseless claims.

Check mate

 

here's ron paul with the leader of stormfront



here's ron paul's signature on his newsletter



an abundance of evidence indicates that he did write many articles in the newsletter



http://www.conservativesnetwork.com/2011/12/16/who-wrote-the-ron-paul-newsletters-ron-paul-wrote-them-clear-proof/


not only did ron paul write articles in the newsletters, he owned the company, was the listed as the editor and signed many of the letters



http://www.conservativesnetwork.com/2011/12/16/who-wrote-the-ron-paul-newsletters-ron-paul-wrote-them-clear-proof/



here is one in full context