The biggest problem with the republican party today

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  1. Dayton3

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    The real problem with "abstinence only classes" is that parents rely on the classes and do not try to do anything themselves to actively enforce what is taught in them.

    Because truth be told, lots of parents are not really for "abstinence" if they think it will cost their kids anything like popularity, peer acceptance, or cast their sexual orientation in doubt.
     
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    I think most anyone old enough to have sex, knows about how to prevent it. Hell in a lot of places they give out condoms. The most effective way I have read about, is one where schools give out mechanical dolls to girls to take home on Fri and bring back on Mon. The dolls will cry, wet and etc. just like a baby. It's up to the girl to change it's diaper, feed it and hold it till it stops. There is a chip inside to tell if the girl is doing what they should to stop the (baby) from crying. They say many of the girls learning how much care must be given to a new born, say they don't want to get pregnant any time soon.
     
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    Experiential education is good.

    Teaching abstinence is not teaching experience. Not all states do this but it shows in the data that it doesn't do what it's intended to do.

    A three parent home is the best thing for a child. So what?....so I'm libertarian. :blankstare:
     
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    Dead wrong. How do you live believing such lies? Brookings has studies showing liittle difference between the two. Heritage has studies showing that teen pregnancy rates and stds have declined since abstinance only education began in the late nineties. The Family research Council's sudies show a much higher correlation between family types and beliefs than any kind of sex ed.
     
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    So the people who have a vested interest in creating the idea that abstinence-only works...did a study which "proves" it works.

    Ah-ha.
     
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    The biggest problem the GOP has is....it is invested in a fantasy.

    The fantasy that we can "go back" ...to the 1950s...or 1920s...or for some, even the 1890s.

    A political ideology which is based on "regret" or "fear of modernity" and "hopes for turning the clock back"...has LITERALLY no future.
     
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    It is the one lesson Republicans consistently refuse to learn from their foe,or Dimocrats.
    Democrats ALWAYS circle the wagons and protect their own.Like animals do in
    nature.If a Democrat Pol faces scandal.the democrat party manages to lessen it
    or wish it away.Republican,to the contrary ALWAYS Purge their ranks in the event of
    any Looming scandal.Trent Lott or Newt Gingrich or Tom Delay or Mark Foley.
     
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    Yep even when the evidence of real wrong doing is at best scant.
     
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    Another thing is the hyperbole. Can you show us just when 'the Democrats' have used abortion as birth control? Do you even know the number of late term abortions that were performed?
    Why make statements like this when you know they are not true?

    So you want to bring back slavery.

    How about following the Constitution and giving everyone the same rights? Wouldn't that be easier and more....I don't know, American?

    I think everyone would like to see that but, where are the jobs?
    Who is going to pay the wages of cleaning trash off the roadways, who is going to pay for the job training and then, where are the jobs for that training?
     
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    And we are back to believing their own lies.
    Heritage?
    The family research council?
    Right.
     
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    This is a very good example of another well known republican problem. When guilty of something, they attempt to make the claim the Democrats are the real guilty ones.
     
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    *Mod Edit* for personal insult. Brookings is a left leaning think tank.It found essentially no difference between the two. Heritage says there simply is no honest debate about whether STD and pregnancy rates among teens fell after the introduction of abstinence only they did and fairly dramatically. The Family Research council which according to you ought to be completely on board with abstinence only says basically that family structure is far more important in determining whether and how soon teenagers become sexually active than is any kind of sex ed.

    *Mod Edit* for personal insults.
     
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    I think the OP has the culprits reversed. Everything that is claimed in that OP....."unamerican, inhuman, scum," points to what Democrats claim of Republicans. The very phrase...."war on women".....is something the Dems made up to smear Republicans with. And it's so silly....considering Republicans have mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters. There is NO "war on women." It's a made-up war created by Democrats to smear Republicans with.

    And the Democrat claim of Republicans being the party of "aging white men," can be considered both racists, age-discriminatory, and sexists." The "packaging and branding" of the Republican party isn't coming from the Republican party. It's coming from Democrats and their liberal supporters in the mainstream media who become very "state-run" whenever a Democrat is in the White House.

    So, what will be the Democrat's mantra once the younger generation of upcoming Republican leaders come to power soon? When you can no longer smear them with being the part of "aging, old white men,"....then what will you use to smear them with? And BTW, that's a real problem for the Democrats. Republicans have far more young Hispanic leaders already in place.....in Governorships, state positions, and in Congress and the Senate....than Democrats have.
     
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    IF we don't turn back the clock on our over-spending.....there will be no future. When is this president going to make any proposals for CUTS in spending???
     
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    Well Reagan did say that Hispanics are Republicans, they just didn't know it yet.

    So if the Republicans are able to woo Hispanics with the promise of personal responsibility, and not accepting handouts from the government, they will win the next elections.

    The problem however is that we all know the Republican voter base does not like Hispanics, they see them as anchor babies and have did quite a bit to demonize their family for being illegal immigrants. Until that is repaired they will have better hopes with this voter base which has shown to be relevant, they helped the President's re-election against the white male vote.
     
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    So....in short, you're saying Republicans should turn into Democrats.

    But see...that's what Dems do. They try to smear Republicans for what ONE Republican said. No one I know of agreed in the slightest with what Aiken said about rape and even Romney spoke out against it. But that doesn't stop Democrats from trying to smear ALL Republicans for what one said.

    We could play that game too....and pick out some dumb statement that one of your Democrat elected officials has said.....and there are PLENTY of them.....and try to smear ALL Democrats with it.
     
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    What??? "Republican voter base does not like Hispanics?" Got some proof of that?
    Texans have been working alongside Hispanics forever.....since the state was formed and before. Mexicans here are hard-working; very hard-working....and not likely to want to be on hand-outs.....certainly not for very long. They are entrepreneurial and get along here with whites and in a Republican state just fine.
    And BTW, Democrat yelled every bit as loud as any Republican about amnesty back when Pres. George W. Bush tried to get his comprehensive immigration legislation passed. In 2004, 2005, and again in 2007, he tried. How many times did Obama try in his 4 years? Oh yeah, right....that would be....ZERO times. Wasn't a priority with him.....until the election when he decided 4 months prior that he'd better do a E.O. for the Dream Act to get more Hispanics on board. How many Hispanics are in his administration? Not nearly as many as were in the Bush administration. And don't forget; Democrats like to blast religious people all the time. Guess what? Hispanics, in general, are very religious. So on that point they have more in common with Republicans than Democrats.
     
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    The Democrats didn't want George W Bush passing immigration reform, because the growing Hispanic vote will go with Republicans.

    But all we have to do is look at Republican states such as Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina, all have laws that the Hispanics around the nation don't like.

    Even the Cubans in Florida, they are Republicans since the 80's because they don't like socialism from Castro, but they voted for Democrats pre-dominantly in this election. They aren't feeling welcomed by the Republican party, so that has to change if Republicans are going to get their vote.
     
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    When Republican leadership speaks, I too often can't help but feel that I've a target on my back. Complain about the media bias all you like, but I have my own working set of ears. When the things that Republicans say alienate large groups of people, they've really only themselves to blame.

    Sometimes it's not a matter of who appeals to the most people, but who scares away the fewest.

    Here's the thing: Republicans can come up with all sorts of excuses to avoid taking any of the blame for their party's losses, but it won't change the result. So what are you going to do in order to win back the voters next time around? All this wallowing in self-pity isn't going to accomplish anything. In fact, it's pretty discouraging to those of us who were hoping for strong leadership but ended up having to choose between a "giant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" and a "turd sandwich".

    Get back to those of us who make up that 45% of independents who didn't vote for Romney when you figure it out.

    Edit: bizarro word filtering for the win.
     
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    He has offered cuts. But he has a MANDATE to raise taxes and leave SS and Medicare alone. We can always cut the military a bit. But I guess for you people thats unacceptable. We have to balance the budget on the backs of those filthy ungrateful workers right? No wonder you lost, and it doesn't surprise me you can't understand why.
     
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    Ummm....the clock went past being "fixable" during Bush's spending and his economic collapse of 2008. The time to address it has since passed. It's irrelevant now.
     
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    He's already reducing the deficit in record speed! This is why Romney got so many votes. Most who voted for him have no idea what's really going on!

    Wake up!
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    I would say that this is a symptom of a much bigger problem with the GOP.

    For years, the GOP was mainly about limited government, not small government or legislating morality. Since the the Reagan presidency, it has become a party of small government at any cost and legislate morality through that government. If the GOP wants to get back to the party it was known for from Reagan and prior years, then it must concentrate on the premise that we want a limited government that is not defined by how big or how small the government is. The limitation of government is set forth in the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and a precise definition that is not too restrictive or inflexible.

    Morality is best taught at home and in religious institutions, not dictated by government decrees or inflexible legislation such as the person hood amendment. When the GOP loses the legislate morality fiasco, it will then get rid of the Tea Party, among other things.
     

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