Rightwing Media demanding Repubs take us over the fiscal cliff...

"National Review"....Breitbart....Limbaugh....all advising the House GOP to "walk away" and let it happen and "(*)(*)(*)(*) the polls which show Repubs will get the blame".

Mind you these are the same people who "had a gut feeling Romney's going to win big" a little over 3 weeks ago.

 

To me they would get the credit, not the blame. It could be the first time since the end of WWII had some spending cuts.

 

Although few Republicans want to budge on passing tax cuts for 100% (keeping rates low on all income under $250K), there have been signs of some House Republicans cracking on this issue (Tom Cole (OK)). This terrifies Republicans because their top goal is the huge tax breaks for income over $250K, and they fear that they won't be able to get those tax cuts back.

That should be an eye-opener for all Americans. The priority of the Republican party is the top 2%, not the rest of us.

 

Nonsense

 

Personally, I tend to agree with them.

Let the Democrats and the Republicans fail. Let them show to their world their abject partisanship. Let them get a swift kick in the balls of reality.

It is absolutely ridiculous that this country has become this polarized as represented by our elected officials in Washington. Neither side seems capable of doing what is right. Neither side seems capable of cutting their own projects. Neither side seems capable of retuning to previous tax structures.

To paraphrase that great philosophy Mr. T. Durden.

(*)(*)(*)(*) off with your sofa units and strine green stripe patterns, I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may.

 

What's the problem with going over the fiscal cliff?

 

Thanks for adding some reason to this.

Of course the environment we have, pitting American vs American was all predicted when "Progressive taxation" was adopted in the late 1890's

 

None. Let's do it. Talk is cheap.

 

Lets have a fiscal cliff party!

 

I'll bring the monopoly money!

 

I agree. I can't think of anything which will harm obama's second term more than to grapple with a new recession. It will limit his policy options.

 

I don't want to see it happen but we don't need to flinch in this game of chicken. So what if the polls say that Republicans will get the blame? Maybe that will help Obama will win reelection in 2016. Oh wait! This isn't a game of chicken with Republicans and Democrats. Its a game of chicken between Republicans and Obama. If the country dips back into recession his legacy is toast. How it effects Republicans election chances in 2016 means jack (*)(*)(*)(*) to him.

 

The term "fiscal cliff" is ambiguous. It originally was paired with something descriptive (such as tax cut expiration) but the phrase by itself implies something disastrous to the fiscal state of the government, when reality is the opposite of that. Going off the fiscal cliff means substantially more revenues and some spending cuts, resulting in a lower budget deficit. Republicans are opposed because their holy grail is tax cuts for the wealthy, and they've benefited the most as a percentage of their income than any other group. But Republicans no longer have political leverage to get those cuts passed, so some see their next best step as letting everything expire. Might as well take away some unemployment benefits down with them and much of Bush's dreaded fiscal legacy.

The interesting aspect is that some right-wing leaders are now aiming to convince their listeners that letting all tax cuts expire is a good thing, which is a new approach, quite different from warning about the fiscal cliff and trying to blame President Obama, something that worked in 2010. Polls show Americans are ready to hold Republicans accountable far more than the President if the fiscal cliff occurs, so they've chosen Plan B - say it's a good thing.

 

But dont be so sure. Remember, his anti-colonial education would suggest another recession is what he wants because Americans deserve it.

It will also provide an opportunity to take over more sectors of the economy

 

Do you think Obama cares what effect the fiscal cliff has on Republicans? He is in his second term all that matters to a second term president is legacy.

 

Let's go over the cliff. I could not possibly care less of the impact on the electoral fortunes of Republicans. The whole point is to frustrate imposition of the leftist agenda during the next two years. After that Obama will be a lame duck.

 

Obama is greedy just like every leftist leader. His legacy means millions to him.

 

Not directly, but Republicans do. If they get the blame and a recession occurs, they get the blame taken out on them in 2014. Obama understands this. He's not up for re-election. He has considerably more political leverage to hold firm than he did in 2010, a year when liberals claimed he caved. As for his legacy, getting the country on some sound fiscal footing is more important for the long-term than worrying about a temporary recession early next year.

 

When we go over the fiscal cliff, no one will remember what congress did or didn't do. They will, however, remember who was president.

 

Obama hasn't offered a quid pro quo that would justify reaching any agreement with congressional republicans which would permit us to avoid the fiscal cliff. There is no sense in reaching for agreement for the sake of sense of reaching an agreement.

 

Some people think doing what's right for the country is more important than pride. Republicans Tom Cole and Mary Bono Mack, for example:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...an-making-waves-in-fiscal-cliff-negotiations/

 

If that were the case, "democrats" would be more serious than they are.

Unless of course they believe the cliff is right and the next step - in order to advance their wishes of full control of every sector

 

If they believed that, they would not be supporting extending tax cuts for everyone on all income < $250K, which Republicans Tom Cole and Mary Bono Mack support. Republicans have indicated with their votes and words that they prefer the fiscal cliff.

Republicans are showing signs of (gasp) compromise within their ranks which is causing core Republican leadership to consider taking their ball and going home.

 

Maybe it's just me but....I KINDA DOUBT that in the face of "non-skewed" polls showing the majority of Americans would blame the Repubs for not reaching a deal on the "fiscal cliff"?


That they're instead going to throw their ambitions and desires to remain in office....to the hope that Rush Limbaugh is right....this time.