Why do Americans like guns so much?

Nope...not until the Act of Union in 1800 which fundamentally changed your Parliament to look more like the U.S. Not until 1832 did certain Commoners get the right to vote. America led the way in women's right to vote as well. Not until 1948 was plural voting protections passed in the UK. America was already far ahead of the UK by that time. Do they teach you guys history 'over there'?

 

I cant be bothered except to say says common sense, only an idiot with think comparing america with honduras is a valid comparison, you can compare with any country you want, but it only makes your comparison stupid and worthless if its not with a similar society. ciao for now you nutcase.

 

Lol.

The level of insecurity that would make one mutilate themselves like that is through the roof.

 

we had magna carta and cut a kings head off to establish

America was founded on the principle that We The People control the government instead of a Monarch and/or a Parliament.

that the people control the government, long before 1776, see how youre talking crap ? thats what you said, we already had all of that, it seems they dont teach you history. you also dont seem aware you had to go through all of these things as well, women didnt get the vote till 1920 in america, originally only rich white men with property could vote, you are no different to anyone else, except we had all these things first. here, educate yourself about your own country


The issue of voting rights in the United States has been contentious throughout the country's history. Eligibility to vote in the U.S. is determined by both federal and state law. Currently, only citizens can vote in U.S. elections (although this has not always been the case). Who is (or who can become) a citizen is governed on a national basis by federal law. In the absence of a federal law or constitutional amendment, each state is given considerable discretion to establish qualifications for suffrage and candidacy within its own jurisdiction.
When the country was founded, in most states, only white men with real property (land) or sufficient wealth for taxation were permitted to vote. Freed African Americans could vote in four states. Unpropertied white men, almost all women, and all other people of color were denied the franchise. At the time of the American Civil War, most white men were allowed to vote, whether or not they owned property. Literacy tests, poll taxes, and even religious tests were used in various places, and most white women, people of color, and Native Americans still could not vote.
The United States Constitution, in Article VI, section 3, states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The Constitution, however, leaves the determination of voting qualifications to the individual states. Over time, the federal role in elections has increased through amendments to the Constitution and enacted legislation, such as the Voting Rights Act of 1965.[1] At least four of the fifteen post-Civil War constitutional amendments were ratified specifically to extend voting rights to different groups of citizens. These extensions state that voting rights cannot be denied or abridged based on the following:
Birth - "All persons born or naturalized" "are citizens" of the U.S. and the U.S. State where they reside (14th Amendment, 186
"Race, color, or previous condition of servitude" - (15th Amendment, 1870)
"On account of sex" - (19th Amendment, 1920)
In Washington, D.C., presidential elections after 164 year suspension by U.S. Congress (23rd Amendment, 1961)
(For federal elections) "By reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax" - (24th Amendment, 1964)
(For state elections) Taxes - (Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, 383 U.S. 663 (1966))
"Who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of age" (26th Amendment, 1971).
In addition, the 17th Amendment provided for the direct election of United States Senators.
The "right to vote" is not explicitly stated in the U.S. Constitution except in the above referenced amendments, and only in reference to the fact that the franchise cannot be denied or abridged based solely on the aforementioned qualifications. In other words, the "right to vote" is perhaps better understood, in layman's terms, as only prohibiting certain forms of legal discrimination in establishing qualifications for suffrage. States may deny the "right to vote" for other reasons.

 

Two simple reasons. Americans do not trust their government (and who can blame them?), and rednecks enjoy killing critters.

 

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."

- Adolf Hitler

 

For some reason, the southern hemisphere has the highest murder rates in the world. Here's some of the top offenders:

Not until you get to mexico, that paradise of peaceful people, do you get to north america, & we still haven't gotten to europe or asia. These are almost all africans.. even the ones in the carribean & S. America. So it would appear to be that race & hemisphere, not guns, is the primary motivation for murder, right?

No? Ok, what countries have the highest murder rates, & why? Is it lax gun laws? Is that why Mexico has the highest homicide rate in the northern hemisphere, because of their strict gun laws? According to progressives, lax gun laws are the reasons for all crime, murder & evil in the world. Why do the facts not support their claims?

according to this list, the us has 4.8 murders per 100k people. Mexico, their next door neighbor, has 22.7! That is more than 4 times as many. But mexico has very strict gun laws, & do not allow their people to 'keep & bear arms'. Here are 2 neighboring countries in the northern hemisphere, with different views of gun rights, & very different results in crime statistics.

An argument i would see is that mexico should pass a 2nd amendment like the us, so it's crime would be curtailed. That would be a logical conclusion. Instead, the mexican criminals have guns, & use them against the unarmed population. That would not happen in the us.

In fact, Mexico is behind only Brazil & India in total murders, but it is ahead of them in rates.

Southern Africa has the highest murder rate than anyone, with over 30 per 100k, but s. america is close behind, & leads in totals.

What do all these statistic mean? Whatever you want them to. You can juggle them around & prove just about anything, if you work at it. You can prove that guns are bad, blacks are bad, the sun causes murder, or walking around upside down disturbs the brain & causes homicidal actions.

There are many factors, & many complicated reasons for crime in a culture. All we can do is try to limit it, & punish the criminals. Sure, if some societies want to experiment with different ideas, fine. But to try to prove a preconceived conclusion with statistics is reaching & dishonest.

 

one other reason, to protect our homes and loved ones from criminals.

 

No one compared America with Honduras. The comparison was with strict gun law states with loose gun control states.

 

Note the poster is slithering off after throwing insults...Classic case of FAIL.

 

Tell me how does a citizen control the government without the right to vote? Which you guys didn't really have until 1948? And NO..you didn't 'have all that.'

At least voting has been 'contentious' unlike England where citizens having any power was strictly forbidden. You guys had to wait until 1948 to realize even a modicum of freedom and you STILL have a monarchy.

Most of that old garbage was left over from what the Founders experienced in England. Luckily with our Constitution and individual freedom mandate we have been able to shake off most of that old crap.

You don't have a real understanding of America. If you did, you'd realize that the States are also governed by The People. Today there is not one single State that denies the right to vote to any American citizen. The fact remains the UK has limited personal freedom. Just live with it and stop trying to be like US.

 

Let me guess. You aren't black are you.

Slavery was abolished PEACEFULLY in England decades before the United States got it's head out of its ass.

 

Another statement that tells me you aren't black.

 

So a person's race affects his reasoning? Isn't that kind of racist? Arguments have no color. Logic & facts do not care about race. If you can show his race somehow affects his experience, or invalidates his points, go for it. But simply dismissing someone because of their race is bigoted.

 

The Second Amendment allowing Americans to have guns wasn't as much for protecting the country against the likes of, say the British, whom we broke away from, although that is one reason, but to also protect us from our own government in case they wanted to act like the British acted against their own people. America was new and we didn't really know how it would grow. So to make sure that it didn't turn out to be a dictatorship, they allowed the people to be armed. So it was to help protect the country against any invasion and to also protect the people from the government.

Today that isn't quite the case, we want guns to hunt, protect our family and many like myself, use them to target shoot with my family. But if the other two situations ever come up, we have a whole lot of guns to protect ourselves from them too.

 

Guns, I like them because they are a work of art, an example of the best of industry, of working with steal, of machining parts, the weight it my hand feels good. The action and the sound just sounds great. The finish is spectacular, many different kinds. Its kind of like a Zippo lighter, just real nice craftsmanship. A great part of our history

 

So, your 'fall back' position is to make racist comments...

 

I realise there is nothing 'mere' about any of this.

And as it may concern other Americans, I hope they understand and accept that virtually NOTHING about our national culture is simple.

All that to say, I know what you mean.

 

Some people like to collect stamps or coins and some people like guns. No one can say why. It's stupid but there u have it.

 

he meant jews and people in the countries they invaded, the german people were never armed in the first place, they didnt need to be disarmed, and when you are a conqueror of a nation thats a pretty reasonable view to have anyway, not about your own nation. he doesnt mean aryan germans.

 

theyre all quite poor countries thats what that says, except america, compared to similar countries economically you have a way higher chance of being shot in america, cause you dont have gun laws. simple.

 

1832, and you have no understanding of british history or the monarchies role. the uk has much more freedom for its people than america. do you think we deny the vote to anyone btw lol. you are the perfect example of the archetypal ignorant and stupid american, this is why people flew planes into the wtc, people like you, and tbh you can totally understand their point when you have to deal with people like yourself.

 

I mean you are so stupid its not real, read my link, you had no more voting rights at any stage in history than the uk ever has, we made the same changes at the same times that you did, but had already had a revolution, civil war and many other struggles to establish things like the king is subservient to parliament, which you seem to think is some tyrannical thing, its the same as congress, its an elected body of representatives, elected by the people, that controlled our king before america was even founded, and was elected by the people, so we had control of our govt in the 1600s, when was the declaration of independence again remind me ?

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no incase the british govt acted like they did against americans, you were a conquered and colonised people, people in britain werent treated like that they were the master race living in gods country why are americans so stupid

 

Ummm Posse Comitatus,
But lets say for the sake of argument the govt could use its troops against its people, they would lose. The military consists of people sworn to uphold the very things the second amendment stands for, they would be the ones fighting along with the citizens. It's the tyrannical govt that would be in a world of hurt not the other way around. You guys in other countries just dont get that part. Virtually every male in the U.S. would rather die fighting for freedom than hand it over like a weak spineless coward. A person willing to fight for their freedom is by default stronger than one who doesnt.

 

you have a child like star wars view of freedom. we fought for ours and won it hundreds of years ago, now we run our country like a civilised nation should be. your crazy talk of all this nonsense about freedom is amusing and bemusing at the same time, I think really as a people you just need to mature, an awful lot, over a very long period of time. best of luck with that.

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you have a child like star wars view of freedom. we fought for ours and won it hundreds of years ago, now we run our country like a civilised nation should be. your crazy talk of all this nonsense about freedom is amusing and bemusing at the same time, I think really as a people you just need to mature, an awful lot, over a very long period of time. best of luck with that.