Let me drop this right in your laps.. :-)

sure maybe most of that death was a result of Muslim on Muslim violence some of it about being the wrong kind of Muslim some of it just involving Muslims but whatever

 

The US of AIPAC was either directly responsible or it was the catalyst. The world isn't going to forgive another million dead. America's position of moral leadership, fabricated or otherwise, has gone and will never be regained. The Emperor has no clothes.

 

Disclaimer>>>> where I say I am only referencing radical extremist Muslims and terrorists that ID as Muslim in this thread. I usually place an &#8216;r&#8217; prefix to indicate that fact, and to keep the Usual Suspects from misquoting me etc. <<<<Disclaimer

Another disclaimer>>>>>>> specific to this thread ; Of course all bets are off if the &#8216;Islam Oh fascist&#8217; 9/11 is a falsehood. I am sure enough that Islamic American hating perps were responsible for the attack. However who or what motivated the perps is the only question I have. I highly doubt 99% of the &#8216;official&#8217; Uncle Sam explanation is a falsehood, but I do not feel we know the truth and never will. And lets not forget 1% can represent a significant amount of data. We are separated by chimps by 1% (DNA), which, when I think about the history of man our similarity to a &#8216;monkey&#8217; does not surprise me. <<<< Another disclaimer

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The OT raises an interesting but somewhat redundant point. They apparently asking for more rights than other American citizens are entitled to. They are demanding other bennies as well such as (excepts from AMPAC&#8217;s press conference in New York ;


&#8220;Lastly we are asking for the establishment of a real 9/11 Commission to reveal the truth to the American people.&#8221;

"We are demanding that laws be enacted protecting our First Amendment rights."

To the above I say certainly 9/11 did not help endear USA citizens to Muslim and the Islamic religion. Neither do rIslamics spouting anti American slogans and chanting death to Israel which a majority of Americans support. Worse are terrorists ID&#8217;ing as Islamic who gleefully commit horrific atrocities that range from beheading innocents to the rape and torture of any AMERICAN or westerner they can grab. Oh yes that sure endears Americans to the Islamic cause! Lets not forget Sharia law punishments which by western standards of law, ethics, and morals are CRIMINAL and immoral. Did I mention some Islamic leaders are attempting to export the brutal law to the USA? Or that many consider the draconian criminal punishments to be EXEMPT from USA law?

So to say that those guys have a difficult PR row to hoe is beyond any understatement imaginable! To summarize; 9/11 is just the tip of the americans not trsting etc anti-Muslim iceberg. The world wide atrocities committed by rIslamics and the other atrocities mentioned must be stopped and condemned by all Muslims! Beyond that I will admit that I do not know if Muslims will be accepted fully until time heals the 9/11 wound. If in the mean time Iran does get a bomb and uses it or if another 9/11 style event occurs or even if rIslamic atrocities such as beheading etc continue that healing may take forever. That said, I do not understand why, when Muslims enjoy the same protections under the law and constitution as I do as a Christian minister, want special treatment? Last, I see no reason for a special investigation, however if that would save one life otherwise snuffed out by an rIslamic, I would agree to it and even work for it.

reva

 

The world will gladly forgive millions dying as long as its somewhere else or someone they don&#8217;t like or someone they kill themselves

 

As it's ' the world ' at large which the US of AIPAC is killing I can't foresee any 'forgiveness' coming from anywhere except North America and Israel.

 

Post #55 reported for flamebait, designed or intended to evoke an emotive response.

 

This reply is in response to a post from a member. Since I can not find it I will not reveal the members name, either the server eat it, or my explorer 6 browser flung it into cyberspace, or it was deleted by the mod (I think it was past the 20 min limit) or &#8216;other&#8217;, it&#8217;s gone for now&#8230;(lol)


Hello Mr. **** ! The answer to your um' witty question depends on what you mean by 'know'. (the member asked me how I know the holocaust was real or words to that effect). I subscribe to the philosophy that we feeble minded humans can know nothing to an accuracy of 100%. So, we must as creatures that are slave to our senses and limited brains extrapolate what is real and what is not by the evidence presented to our limited brain by those sometimes imperfect senses*.

So with that in mind, I feel the photographic, documental , eye witness accounts and other media type evidences prove to a higher extent the reality of the Holocaust compared to the evidences that support the claim the holocaust did not occur. (for this reply the holocaust means the attempted genocide of the Jewish people in WW2, and will depend on our members to be honest in that description and not to nit pick numbers etc).

reva

 

I tend to agree that the USA has lost her way in several areas all of them retrievable, (on a conditional basis). However, the real question is do we have the will to change in a large way? If yes our nation can be the USA that once existed in myth*, and far more. *(I suspect my beloved country never was the &#8216;can do no wrong&#8217; 'never tell a lie', the 'land of individual freedoms rights, the land of milk and honey' etc) but it was as close as any large nation in history has come IMO . If I had my way I would isolate the western hemisphere and Israel letting the rest of the world go its way with our best wishes. Then I would make the west a non expansionist militarily most powerful paradise (in personal freedoms and income etc) in the history of the world.

If the USA if malicious as many suspects have claimed the USA having the only nuclear weapons or access to them would have invaded and defeated what was left of the world after WW2 or after, and I mean ALL of the world.

I would wager that no one would prefer say Iran or like nations to be the ruler of the world or even the victor of WW2*. They know the lie they are spreading when they demonize the USA (especially compared to many tyrannically ruled nations of the world). Also I know without the former USSR and allies the USA may not have defeated the axis powers, but that is not relevant to this post. I would even bet that nearly no one (save maybe a stupe) would choose an Islamic nation to spend jail time in. A country can be judged on the way it treats its prisoners eh?

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/52/messages/353.html

 

Yammer..yammer...yammer...address the detail in post 4.

 

Zero. Nothing. Nada. All you do is ignore all points of content, as you did with post 4, then start with your Jew hater BS.

It is not debate. It is not information. It is just a 'Canadian' saying 'Jew hater'.

Learn to exchange information and address people without this, or, yet again, you can be ignored.

You bring this on yourself.

 

Sure.

It must be me then.

I must be responsible.



Jewish Professor of American History at Aberdeen University in UK, Prof. Nathan Abrams. He boasts that Jews were the driving force of the modern pornographic industry and that their motivation is in part to destroy Gentile morals.

In a respected and scholarly magazine of Jewish intellectuals, (The Jewish Quarterly, winter 2004) Jewish professor Nathan Abrams in an article titled, “Triple Exthnics,” proudly documents the leading role of Gentile-hating Jews in pornography.

'A story little told is that of Jews in Hollywood’s seedier cousin, the adult film industry. Perhaps we’d prefer that the ‘triple exthnics’ didn’t exist, but there’s no getting away from the fact that secular Jews played (and still continue to play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America.

Jewish involvement in pornography has a long history in the United States, as Jews have helped transform a fringe subculture into what has become a primary constituent of Americana. These are the ‘true blue’ Jews. Jewish activity in the porn industry divides into two (sometimes overlapping) groups: pornographers and performers. Though Jews make up only two per cent of the American population, they have been prominent in pornography. … In the postwar era, America’s most notorious pornographer was Reuben Sturman, the ‘Walt Disney of Porn’. According to the US Department of Justice, throughout the 1970s Sturman controlled most of the pornography circulating in the country. … It was said that Sturman did not simply control the adult-entertainment industry; he was the industry. … Many are entirely secular, Jews in name only. Sturman, however, identified as a Jew – he was a generous donator to Jewish charities.'

Is there a deeper reason, beyond the mere financial, as to why Jews in particular have become involved in porn? … Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.” Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged. … Extending the subversive thesis, Jewish involvement in the X-rated industry can be seen as a proverbial two fingers to the entire WASP establishment in America. …

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38

There.

That's you made done.

Who is next?

 

Interesting read.

I have nothing against good, peaceful Muslims, Jews, Hebrews, Hindus, etc. I do have a problem with polls being represented as fact. Just because enough people believe something doesn’t make it a scientific fact. I would prefer to see some factual evidence to corroborate these twelve-year-old “inside job” claims. Until then, this is all very “Area 51” and “Faked Moon Landing” territory.

Anyway, it’s America; they have the freedom of speech as well as the right to assemble. Knock yourselves out.

 

Okay, so this "porn" thing of which you speak (I have no idea what it is), is a Jewish plot to destroy America? When did they invent this "porn"?

 

For who was it a success?

 

Since I have presented hard facts wrt the federal reserve and bank of england "ownership", perhaps you can provide some iota of proof that the jews own and control both of these national banks? Instead of merely regurgitating jew hating propaganda, why not shock us all and start making evidence based claims, instead of dumb myths that are easily disproven?

I am not in th habit of refuting hateful, spurious, salacious, unsubstantiated garbage. Particularly when the posts are fit the classic description of anti-semitism or more accurately jew hating.

Your mock indignation is as transparent and churlish.

What should I address? Your scurrilous opinion that jews decieve and lie. Say humans decieve and lie and i'll buy it. single out jews and it nothing more than promoting a stereotype.
Your outrageous opinion that jews bleed every possible dollar from america, is not only demostrably false, its promoting a stereotype.
Your foolish claim that jews are attempting to take away second amendment rights is nothing more than a paranoid lie.
Your hilarious claim that jews are trying to render the constitution meaningless is attributing supernatural powers to the jews, in which case jew haters should be very worried.
Your totally rejected claim of the IDF killing USS liberty sailors in the water is yet another example of the myths of white nationalist jew hating.
Your completely over the top account of what happened at Dar Yassin isn't worth debating since it is a gross exaggeration and packed with lies. (Not that a massacre did not take place, merely that your account distorts the facts.)

that's why I don't bother to address the "points" you raised in post #4. they aren't points they are merely regurgitated hate that lack any evidence. Normally, it the evidence of an accusation is required, but for some reason you omitted the mountains of evidence you claim to have, but never produce.

AS for information exchange, your posts demonstrate a basic law of information processing - GIGO.

Ignore whomever you like, I'll continue to expose your white nationalist hate for what it is, since "information exchange" with you appears to be a process where you posts lies and hateful stereotypes and then expect somebody to take those posts as serious attempts to discuss the subject.

Fortunately for all, you keep masochistically falling off your soap box with outrageous daviddukisms and foolish expectations of having your hatred and bigotry being taken seriously.

 

Not that injecting a little logic into this would have any effect on your opinion, but if the jews promote the porno industry to corrupt the christian masses, does that mean that jews don't watch the porno they make?

Or do jews have a secret elixer that makes them impervious to the corruption of their morals by pornography?

 

When they introduced the cult of prostitution in their first Temple.

 

the first temple wasn't built until 10th century BCE and we know from the code of Hammurabi written in the 18 century BCE that prostitutes property rights were recognized and protected. there are all kinds of examples of pornographic art in the ancient world that predate the first temple by hundreds and even thousands of years.

Nope, this one can't be pinned on the jews, no matter how hard you try.

 

Does a magazine publisher - producer/director the originators of movies , , need to "watch " their products ? + is it likely to have the same effect on them as on the , audience ?


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The cult of Ashtoreth, the ancient Canaanite fertility goddess, was around long before the First Temple was built, and before Israel was founded.

 

Jonsa.

This is the last and final time I will say this, so I suggest you either take it on, or be ignored forever.

If you want to address me, you will do so with civility, absence of slander, and quit with the 'Jew hating' garbage.

I am not going to read a single post you make, that contains any of the above. Personal attacks aimed at me, will be reported, I have avoided doing so, thus far.

That's it. No smart arsed retorts will be read. Debate properly, or be ignored.

Your choice.

 

Jonsa has once again come charging in - without having read mandrak'e question
I replied. to.


it was :
When did they invent this "porn"?


Can you tell the difference ?

hmm I guess not .

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tata....

 

A denier of Jewish filth and degradation is what you peddle on here. No more and no less. Debate me, point by point, on any of this;


The Anti-missionary law 5738-1977 is passed on Christmas Day, 1977. The decree states that if a non Jewish person is apprehended giving a New Testanment to an Israeli, he may face up to five years in prison.

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=73

For the love of god, in 1970, a man called Richard Perle (yes, that one), is caught by the FBI giving classified documents about the US to Israel. Nothing is done.

This is their TRUE nature, and you had all best wake up, because they make no exceptions as to who they impose this nature on. None.

A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor (Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself – the mopping up – as one of the terrorists put it to him.

He says that the “mopping up” had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives.

Women’s bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers.

Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.

Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive.

52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off.

Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated. About 60 other women and girls were also killed and their bodies mutilated.

British interrogating officer, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, confirmed that:

“The recording of statements is hampered also by the hysterical state of the women who often break down many times whilst the statement is being recorded.

There is, however, no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews.

Many young schoolgirls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested.

One story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was literally torn in two.

Many infants were also butchered and killed.

I also saw one old woman … who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts.

Women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers and parts of some of the women’s ears were severed in order to remove earrings.”

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And this is THEIR true nature, for which I will never forgive them. Ungrateful, back stabbing, not to be trusted. Ever.

1946. Terrorist attacks by Jews, against natives and the British. July 22nd. Ben Gurion (PM), orders another future PM, Begin, to carry out a terrible attack on the King David Hotel. 91 people are killed by these bastards. 41 Arabs, 28 British, 17 Jews, and five others.

When asked by Russel Warren Howe if Begin thought of himself as the father of terrorism in the ME, he repied 'No, in the entire whole world'.

60 yrs later, on the 22nd of July 2006, Benny Netenyahu dedicates a plaque at the site of this Jew terrorist barbarity. It cites the murderers as 'freedom fighters', to be admired.

Just to offer you a measure of scale, it was, at the time, the biggest death toll as a result of a single terrorist attack ever, and it took 40yrs before it was surpassed, by the bombing of US barracks in Beirut, in 1982.

 

I prefer to have really hot chics dropped in my lap.

 

Well said Jack.

somehow I doubt whether the leopard can change his spots

He think its clever.