So GOD made a Farmer

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Um... the movement of people from the farms to cities largely happened about a century ago. After WW2, the trend of suburbanization began.

    While some states like Kansas have rural flight, most states have urban flight.

    Industrialization requires a certain amount of population concentration. If we still had an agrarian economy, we'd be pretty far behind our peers in standard of living.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bad thing for liberals and other defiers is that they DO know God exists.
    They just can't admit it to themselves.
     
  3. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I'm more of a libertarian myself, but I don't know that God exists. I just assume he doesn't because the odds seem pretty low.

    Even if there is a divine being, I find it hard to believe any religion has it correct.

    I also doubt this being would care if I believed in him/her/it or not.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If God didn't exist, there would be no 'better'. All would be neutral, and the ONLY reason you'd be good to someone would be for your own sake.

    Without God, you wouldn't have the slightest idea of the difference between right and wrong. The Principle named God is where that entire thing comes from.

    ha ha ha ha ha. Hello??????.........*kiss
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're being intelligent. There is only one religion which has it correct, and you've never understood that one.

    And you're right, this one true God doesn't even KNOW whether a human being believes in Him/Her or not, let alone care.

    But what will save you as a human being, is YOUR knowledge that GOD exists, not His knowledge of you as a human being.

    I won't explain more right now, but maybe I'll remember your name, because I see a glimmer, surfer. :)
     
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    Dark Star Senior Admin Staff Member Donor

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    And isn't that exactly the argument that religious people are making when they warn us non-religious types that if we don't pick the right god to believe in, we're going to go to hell?

    In the end, what difference does it make why someone chooses to be good to others? If I buy a meal for a hungry man simply because it makes me happy to do so, is that any less of a good thing than if I'd done it because I was trying to make god happy?



    This may come down to how you choose to define right and wrong, but there's an abundance of evidence that our earliest pre-human ancestors practiced altruistic behavior that closely parallels our modern concepts of right and wrong - long before their brains were developed enough to formulate the concept of religion or a deity. How does that fit your theory that humans can not understand the difference between right and wrong unless they have a god to teach it to them?
     
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    Lololol. Says who? Man?

    I'll trust that God is at least as moral as I, and would never punish someone for being unable to believe in that which is not evidently true.

    In fact, i have a feeling God has it out for the believers for not using the brain he/she gave them. God would never harm a person for being unable to believe in the tales men weave. God judges on works, if at all.

    Anyone who says different is more than likely lording there worthless "faith" over you or trying to sell you something.
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    And then God made corporate agri-business which ass-reamed every single hard working farmer daily until they committed suicide so that the God made agri-business could swoop down and include yet another plot of land in their Monsanto portfolio. Dodge served them well, too.
     
  9. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah ! We'all git it now.
    Farmers Didn't Build that.Farmers didn't raise crops and animals by the
    sweat of their brow and that being 24/7 often in their sleep.
    Only Marxists like Obama and Crew Build things.
    Yeah ! like One Man wrecking crews.
     
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    Thing is,kid,you'll never know for sure till you die....
     
  11. Serfin' USA

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    Actually, the gist of what he's saying is that we did build that.

    If you say God made farmers, that's actually more akin to saying "you didn't build that."

    Religion has a way of saying "you didn't build that" in general. You're supposed to give the credit to God, I guess.

    Personally, I'd rather attribute the credit to individuals.
     
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    If god made a farmer, who made god?
     
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    A Truck commercial is a miracle?

     
  14. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    GOD IS YOU. That is the first principle of Theology.
    God created man in his own image.From God eminates everything.
    Everything Good.Man was given access to Free Will.No other living
    thing has Free Will,except mankind
    Well maybe not Obama so mush.But he should done have.
    Somewhere along the line God messed up.
    It happens within history.
     
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    So a monkey doesn't choose which branch to swing on? Or which plants to eat?

    Or do you mean freedom to choose between good and evil? Animals have morals as well.

    We are not special, we are animals. We live, breath, eat, and (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get it Ma .... Man is a rational animal.
    With one slight variant.Man is distinct from the lower species in that
    Free Will involves a Brain { which animls have } but also an
    Intellect { the ability to Reason,over mere feeling and instinct } Plus
    a SOUL.
    To Reason involves being analytical.Yes,I'm sure many a dog,such
    as Rin Tin Tin and Lassie did think in terms of choosing a course of
    action.

    " Homo Sapiens,the only creature endowed with reason,is also the
    only creature to pin it's existence on things unreasonable. "
    -- Henri Bergson { French Philosopher,Nobel Prize 1927 }
     
  17. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    If "God messes up", then I guess that means he's not perfect. That's contrary to what most Christians assume.

    Either way, the odd "God is everything" idea is interesting, although that actually points more to the core of Buddhist thought with collective consciousness. It also is similar to the Luciferian idea of individuals becoming gods metaphorically when it comes to knowledge and success.

    Whatever the case, if God is everything, then it is especially odd that anyone would face eternal (*)(*)(*)(*)ation over a disbelief in God. Why would God punish part of himself?

    It also seems to contradict this whole "original sin" idea. If the sins of Adam and Eve have been passed onto us, and we have to accept Christ as our savior, then that basically means God cursed part of himself, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.
     
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    You've got to love The PF. Where else could an ad that talked about an extinct species, trying to sell a truck that only comes with street tires, degenerate into a religious argument ?

    Monty Python's Flying Circus should be so proud.
     
  19. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, an idiot and a prick. I suppose that when there is nothing to actually counter what I said, calling me an idiot and a prick is about what Christians have to put forth.
     
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    Bluespade Banned

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    I love how you're desperate enough to assume I'm a christian.

    Then after insulting other people's religion, you try to turn it around on people, who call you out on it. Pretty chicken (*)(*)(*)(*) of you, but also that's what people come to expect of you.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, an idiot, prick, and chicken(*)(*)(*)(*). Bravo.
     
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    Hey, if the shoe fits.
     
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    I thought it was a good ad, though I am not a believer and think the power of the message was a little bit undermined by the fact that it was all leading up to promoting a brand. What made me want to post here though was to share that the family in the commercial lives in north-central Montana, and that the photographer for the ad actually lives in my small town - something I certainly did not expect to hear. It almost makes up for the fact the Forty-Niners lost the game. :cowboy:
     
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    What part of my mention of FREE WILL did you not catch.
    God endowed only one species on Earth { Homo Sapiens } an
    Intellect,a Soul and FREE WILL. Meaning he will Judged according to use of
    his Free Will.
    That is why Religions mention a Heaven.An Afterlife.Because the function of why God
    Created man is a mystery of Faith.The goal is eternal happiness { a Heaven }.
    How a God who is Omniscient,Omnipotent and All-Present cannot be
    understood.It requires Faith.There are mysteries of Faith.

    " I never spoke with God -
    Nor visited in Heaven --
    Yet certain am I of the spot
    As if the Checks were given --
    -- Emily Dickinson { No. 1052 c.1865 }
     
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    Atheists are a fringe minority, and the most sexually unappealing 'religious' group on the planet - suck it up and just deal with the fact that you guys are social outcasts - blame evolution if you want. I think the average girl would rather be violated by an Iranian mullah than be seen with in 10 feet of an atheist.

    I don't think Dodge is that concerned about appealing to a fringe group that makes up only 1-5% of the population - most of whom can't even afford to buy a truck since they're just angsty teens still living with parents, wondering why no one likes them.
     

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