Why is nazism thought so much worse than communism?

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  1. Jackster

    Jackster New Member

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    They take all the food, all the farm equipment and in many cases fail to give seed. Whats going to happen? Thats straight out genocide im sorry, and then the millions in the gulags which was a slow death sentence. The numbers thrown around are between 40-60m, murderous indeed.
     
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    The term "class envy" is not particularly viable at this point in the economic collapse. Try again later.
     
  3. Jackster

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    And the Nazis were very anti-communism and anti-Marxists, they had their own troubles with the Bolsheviks soon after ww1. So yes the our progressives will obviously paint an anti-them group as 100x more evil.
     
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    Bad decisions from pioneers, i think it is quite normal to fail.
    I don't see how attempts in socialism can be named as flaws of communism.
     
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    He may not be killing be as quickly as did Nazi prison camps nor shooting squads, but for me living in America under Obama is a much more slow, painful and hopeless death in many ways.
    Obama might not shoot you himself, but his policies might make you kill yourself or at least lead to your death in many ways....
    Don't get me wrong... Hitler was much worse than Obama as he pretty much decided your fate immediately while Obama can still change his decision to end your life as you knew it before him.... hopefully.
     
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    Slavery and capitalism couldn’t be less analogous.

    Slavery’s been around for 4,000 years.

    The economic system of capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other.

    The Comanche slaughtered and wiped out all neighboring tribes; thereby refuting the “noble savage” theory.

    First a universal is propounded:

    “Capitalism has murdered millions of Indians.”

    Then a particular:

    “Did Marx personally harm anyone?”

    ABSURDITY ON STILTS

    Did Adam Smith ever personally harm anyone?
     
  7. Burz

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    I believe you mean the industrial revolution. I'm sure the medieval ages would have done a bit better with semi-automated production.
     
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    Capitalism didn't murder anyone governments did. Capitilism is an explantion of how uncoerced trade among various individuals and groups work.

    Why not Stalin is where all attmpts a coerced communism end.
     
  9. Libhater

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    Its hard to compare any of the murdering leftist movements with one another. This is why its hard for me or for anyone to make any real distinction between the leftist movements in our own country. Lets see now, we have here in America the liberals, the leftists, the progressives, the socialists, the communists (CPUSA), the marxists, the fascists, the feminists (Feminazis), the Hollywood elitists, the congressional black congress, the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the zionists, the president and his administration of czars, and the OWSers to name a few. Can anyone belonging or associating with any of these leftists groups honestly say they have America's best interest(s) at heart?
     
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    The Nazis were quite happy to do away with anyone who didn't fit the Aryan stereo
    -type; communists, homosexuals, gypsies-none were racially motivated killings or incarcerations. Hitler also demanded that every living Pole be murdered.
     
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    You can't very well expect him to demand that dead Poles be murdered.
     
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    Sweden must be very different from here.

    As far as I can tell, there's about an equal amount of distaste for Nazies and Commies here.

    Historically, America has gone so far as to ruin people's lives even if they were merely rumored to be connected to communists.

    We thankfully aren't that extreme today, but communism definitely doesn't have a positive image here.

    I'm aware that some European nations have significant Communist parties in politics, but that's most likely due to having very different historical contexts than our own.

    There's a Portuguese Communist party of some significance, for example. This is most likely because Portugal was run by a dictator backed by capitalist interests for a while (Salazar). The same thing happened in Spain (Franco), so again, it's not surprising that some of them don't view Communism in the same way as we do.

    By the same token, some of Eastern Europe despises Communism a lot more than Nazism, because of the history of conflict and oppression with the Soviet Union.

    So, it all depends on what group screwed you hardest as to how you decide which group is worse.
     
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    People sold as commodities for profit IS capitalism

    Athenian spot-market was established at ~450BC , this makes it almost 2500 years old

    The economic system of capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other.

    The Comanche didn't had profit in mind but survival , you think the Dutch Indian company cared a bit about the survival of low class Dutch? in today's numbers the profits of this company reached over $5tr. so why did the Dutch had to immigrate?

    Now we come to the part where i posted
    looks like i am not the only "absurd" here.
     
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    You're far from convinced of Hitler's global ambitions? "...this is a war we all wage, this time, not for our German people alone; it is a war for all of Europe and with it, in the long run, for all mankind" Berlin, 1942.

    Hitler's reckless ambition and suspicion and distrust of his ablest commanders, led to shortages of winter clothing and totally inadequate preparation for Barbarossa.
     
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    Kulaks at least were killed by the millions. Christians were prosecuted as well as mulims in the SU.
     
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    Kulaks can hardly be thought of as business men.
     
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    Snaks he's just another dude who thinks he knows all about Hitler without ever having read 'Mein Kampf'.
     
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    The Pols starting slaughtering Germans first who were our allies. Theres no secret Hitler didnt approve of racial mixing which at the time a few leading US eugenics supported. It quite clear he had no intentions wiping out all races on the planet, but wouldve aimed for something like China and Japan are today which i dont hear loud outcries about.

     
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    Ahh the good old living room space hey, most European countries were imperialist and did exactly that. You people really think he's going to take over the world with no navy? Take over Russia with no anti-freeze, no coats? He wanted Danzig, he offered Poland back after beating them for peace. But Britain/ France/ Russia wanted their war and would have none of it.
     
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    Yeah, hilarious.
     
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    Anything Hitler said should be taken with a bucket of salt. Remember his non-aggression pact with Stalin, and signed promises of mutual co-operation? How long did that last?

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    Are you insane? Hitler was nobody's ally. In his ideology there was only the Aryan race and Germany.
     
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    Yes great master plan, intend on attacking Russia all along without the equipment or preparation to do so. Then if thats the master plan, why spend so long negioating with Poland for the Danzig corridor? That wouldnt help set up a front with Russia. Why once he has the front with Russia does he offer to give back Poland with a referendum on the Danzig strip in exchange for peace. Stalin signed off on peace with japan and rushed in there, waiting for England/France/ Germany to weaken themselves. He didnt set up defensively either, Hitler couldnt afford Stalin to hit first.

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    I said we were allies with Poland, they started mass murdering Germans. So we the allies laid down the rule of mass murder first. At that stage Germans had murdered noone. You need to lay off the Kool Aid.
     
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    no, Nazis are disliked because their PLATFORM is based on racial hatred
     
  24. Libhater

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    Just curious, why do you think the commies aren't as disliked as the nazis when you figure they slaughtered perhaps 15X as many people? We might not call the commie bolsheviks racists per say, but we can certainly call them haters of Christians without any doubt.
     
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    the commies didn't kill people BECAUSE they were Christians, theres the difference
     

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