I hear quite a bit from the extreme left and some principals I agree with but...

Lets get to the equality thing:
I believe in the principle of fair pay but...

Equal pay for non equal work only lowers the output of those who are willing to reap the rewards of going home with a headache, sore back, cut up and wounded body every day. This is why strict pay scales are frowned upon in many places.

People seem to think an architect should get the same pay as a (*)(*)(*)(*) shoveler...

 

I have no idea what you are specifically talking about but as someone who is unemployed at at 60 after working and succeeding for 30 years in the pharma industry, I actually oppose the increase in minimum wage since I am perfectly happy with just getting a job anywhere at any hourly wage and I think that that the increase will decrease my opportunity to get a job soon.....

 

It's just a matter of some people not understanding how the market works.

 

There are a few nut cases that are pushing for income equality; not work equality, not comparable responsibility levels, not comparable duty levels, not even jobs that can be compared. NPR set me off this morning Where is the incentive to be greater than the lowest common denominator if we pay the person doing 80% of the work the same thing we are paying the person doing 20%? The person at the bottom will do no more but the person at the top (80%) will simply produce less.

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There are a few nut cases that are pushing for income equality; not work equality, not comparable responsibility levels, not comparable duty levels, not even jobs that can be compared. NPR set me off this morning Where is the incentive to be greater than the lowest common denominator if we pay the person doing 80% of the work the same thing we are paying the person doing 20%? The person at the bottom will do no more but the person at the top (80%) will simply produce less.

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There are a few nut cases that are pushing for income equality; not work equality, not comparable responsibility levels, not comparable duty levels, not even jobs that can be compared. NPR set me off this morning Where is the incentive to be greater than the lowest common denominator if we pay the person doing 80% of the work the same thing we are paying the person doing 20%? The person at the bottom will do no more but the person at the top (80%) will simply produce less.

 

First...how do we recognize the "extreme Right"?....or do they not exist?

 

Who is people?

 

When an architect designs a building to be built does he do 80% of the work and the people who build it you know the guys with the damn shovels do 20% of the work?

 

People is legally American Citizens with regard to this topic. Just the fact you had to ask has me concerned.....

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People is legally American Citizens with regard to this topic. Just the fact you had to ask has me concerned.....

 

Funny, I didn't realize Pennsylvania was so red.

 

Central Pennsylvania resembles the South more than the North.

Philly and Pittsburgh are almost like different states from it.

 

I guess we get red when we get misrepresented as to what we think?

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I am a Philly boy.... booyay beotch!

 

There is no extreme right. When you're right...you're right, that's all there is to it. To libs like yourself...an extreme rightist is someone who is for lower taxes and less government intrusion into our lives. So that would be like taking those older WHITE Bible thumping Tea Partiers and labeling them far RIGHT extremists. Hope that clerared it up for you.

 

Well good on you things were getting a bit boring. Solidarity forever, comrade.

 

The architect's work adds more to the value of the building than each laborer's work does.

 

PA is where my DNA comes from (well a few generations of it anyway). And as surfin says there are different worlds up there and believe me WV, PA, Ohio and NY rednecks make Southerners look like amateurs.

 

These are the kind of comments that make me absolutely hate the left.

You really think that is a good idea? What about future architects that don't want to go through years and years of training anymore because they can pick up a shovel with zero skill for the same pay.

Ugh, the left would be so amazing if their fiscal and business ideals weren't so just flat out wrong.

 

I am sure if we paid skilled workers the same as unskilled workers, there would be a mass exodus of individuals leaving the country for better options, turning the USA into rubbish.

We need a social caste system for innovation. Admit it.

 

Kind of a moot point, in the future you will be able to print your house.

 

Seriously? To hell with them, I think I'll go with the architect who gives a damn about the craft.

 

I have a good friend from there.

Surprisingly, a lot of people from both Philly and Pittsburgh move down here. We have more Steelers bars than Panthers bars, and the Eagles and Flyers have somewhat of a following as well.

 

Who knows, you could have descendants from the Hatfields and McCoys. Btw, is there a difference between a redneck, a cracker and or a hillbilly?

 

Well, that and the South is urbanizing more while the North is losing a lot of its urban population.

In about 3 to 4 decades, we may see a time when the South is more densely populated than many portions of the North.

But yeah, upstate NY is radically different from NYC. It's like the difference between Chicago and the rest of Illinois.

 

Labor is a market - except in jobs where minimum wage comes into play. Relative wage rates are determined by labor supply-demand factors. Such factors as how much those who are hiring are willing to pay for any particular set of skill plus how desperate they are to fill a need for that skill set, etc, compare with the availability of those particular skills and how much the possessors of those skills are willing to accept in compensation for their services.

An architect could fill an architect job opening as well a janitorial one, if need be, but probably not the other way around. A company will therefore find it easier to fill a janitorial position as opposed to finding a suitable architect. Thus the architect can demand more for his services than the janitor - and usually get it. The employer will be willing to pay more for the architect's services since the availability of those skills and services is scarcer than that of the janitor's. Hence the architect makes more than the janitor on average. There's nothing unfair about this. It's just a natural supply and demand function that pretty much everyone, everywhere, for the entire history of the human race (with the perhaps the notable exception of the modern Left) have been intimately familiar and engaged.

 

Well a redneck was essentially a farm boy (country boy) who worked in the fields and lived in a small community. The actual definition of redneck is:
noun
1.an uneducated white farm laborer, especially from the South.
2.a bigot or reactionary, especially from the rural working class.
adjective
3.Also, red-necked. narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary: a redneck attitude. Synonyms: biased, narrow-minded, intolerant.
dictionary doc com.

1. sometimes disparaging : a white member of the Southern rural laboring class
2. often disparaging : a person whose behavior and opinions are similar to those attributed to rednecks
Websters

Definition of DISPARAGE

1: to lower in rank or reputation : degrade
2: to depreciate by indirect means (as invidious comparison) : speak slightingly about
Websters

Cracker? Insult

Hillbilly? See Redneck.

Sadly I did not consider audience when I made that post. How about southerners ain't the only country folk in America.

 

If you sincerely want an answer to this, I believe that the extreme right is goaded on by wanting God to be used to control some things which He shouldn't be used for. And I believe the far left is goaded by the fear that is predominant when no God is believed in.

It would be no surprise that major political ideologies would hinge on a belief in God or lack of God, since the concept of a higher power is, along with the concept of 'self', the two most basic human concerns.