Why are there jobs Americans won't do?

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  1. RtWngaFraud

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    OR...they can go into corporate crime like Romney and be rolling in the dough! OR..like the Bush family, cut a deal with the Nazis, commit treason and prosper forever more!
     
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    But Libretardians believe that the bosses have some omniscient way of determining what fair pay is. Also, since only the highest possible profit is worth going for (showing that they too are lazy and want to freeload as much as they can off the workers' backs), bosses' omniscience tells them they will soon make no profit at all if they listen to what the workers' think their work is worth.
     
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    Decent profit is one thing. Out and out rape and demanding more and more for less is another. CEO's deserve 7000, 10,000 or 15,000 times the average workers salary? REALLY? All the while telling the peons to "tighten their belts", "work harder" or "become MORE profitable"? REALLY?
    Gimme a friggin' break dude.
     
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    Low wages and poor working conditions. And in many cases, the mediocre wages combined with the high cost of living in many cities.

    America has brought in waves of third world immigrants in recent decades, and these immigrants have brought up many children who grow up to live in poverty. These workers are willing to work for much less, and put up with all sorts of crap from employers.

    Decent paying jobs that Americans formerly did have turned into crappy low paying jobs that only immigrants (or the children of immigrants) are willing to do. Americans have forgotten that it was once white young adults who worked in fast food, waitressing, bagging groceries, even at fuel stations. It is still like that this in some rural parts, but things are changing. In many high cost of living cities, construction jobs are mostly no longer something that white people do. The wages are just not enough to adequately support a family on with the high cost of housing in these urbanized regions.
     
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    First, you don't deserve your job just because you sacrificed growing up in order to isolate yourself in college voluntarily living in childish poverty. You stole your job from someone who had too much self-respect to do that, someone who was afraid of not growing up. By hiding away in college and not being able to afford to live like others your age, you completely missed your chance to learn about women.

    I had a friend who lived in student poverty and never went out on a date. When he got his Golden Wheelchair of a high-paying job, he could finally attract women but had no experience in handling them. He married some neurotic who had already been divorced twice, someone who a man who had lived like a man and not gone to college wouldn't have touched with a ten-foot pole. She divorced him too, after soaking him for all she could get out of him.
     
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    Does that include college students? That is the key to this whole dysfunctional economy, which college graduates run. If they are not paid a salary in college, they aren't worth anything. Pay students and you will get brains instead of no-talent brown-noses. Someone who puts up with unpaid education has no pride, although he may have a false and unconvincing sense of superiority. Ultimately, though, he has no pride because he is inferior and has nothing to be proud of. Results prove the obvious: If you don't pay people in college, you get what you pay for.

    Inferior people have to cheat in order to make any money at all. That, and not greed, accounts for why they cheat us blind. Also, though they claim that student misery is all forgotten, they are bitter about it the rest of their lives and want to get even with those who had too much self-respect to put themselves through it. You'd think they'd get even with the plutocrats for demanding that self-slavery, but it is a symptom of the Stockholm Syndrome that they begin to love those who kidnapped their youth.
     
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    I think you over-estimate the number of people that are getting government welfare and are trying to 'milk' the system.

    And if you think those people that are getting assistance are going to just voluntarily starve if you cut their help, I think you are either crazy, or being an internet tough guy.

    If people like this really are the way you describe, you have already lost. They outnumber you by a large majority. They get the same ability to vote you do. They have the same access to guns you do. If they are really 'parasites', they will take what they want in any way they can, and that will lead to a bloody, violent class war. Regardless of which side wins, there will be heavy casulties across the board.

    Is that really what you want?
     
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    Because the "AMERICANS" that won't do them have special affirmative action rights.
     
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    Pretentious are we? Bragging on the internet about how much money you make is like talking about how tough you are, on the internet. It just makes you look like an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    I pay 5 figures in income taxes. Wow!!! Someone who makes 50-60 grand a year pays five figures.

    I wish tea partiers and the like would stop sounding like spoiled brats when they talk about the entitlements their taxes go to. Those entitlements were there when you made your life so if it worked out differently you might have ended up on them. You drive away common sense individuals with your holier than thou rhetoric.

    I paid 23000 in taxes in April. Well, that's what it worked out to be over the year. I don't own a house, am not married, and have no children. Do I want to get rid or entitlements for people who breed? Yes, welfare and income tax credits.
     
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    I think your full of (*)(*)(*)(*). I've been unemployed for over a month. Because I was an independant contractor I don't qualify for unemployment. That loussy $200 in food stamps ain't going to pay my rent. The line is too long for section 8 housing to keep me from becoming homeless. All I want is a damn job but I'm 49 and nobody wants to hire me. So (*)(*)(*)(*) you.
     
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    People with an entitlement complex will always demand more from the world than they are contributing to it. Their philosophy on life is completely ass backwards. The saying goes, "You've got to give more than you take." They're trying to do this the other way around. Taking more than they give. Because they believe they are special. They don't even realize what a spoiled rich kid mentality they have. They are walking sacks of irony.
     
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    I was willing to work any job during my time of unemployment. I didn't care what it was. Now that I have a job I try to put in as many hours as I possibly can. I'm grateful for the opportunity to work and to pay for my own things.
     
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    I'll agree with you here. If I was unemployed, I would take any job I could get before starving.

    However, if that job didn't pay at least minimum wage, you better believe I would report it to the government and do everything I could in my power to make sure the employers followed the LAWS we mandate for having a business in this country.
     
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    Most of these jobs are seasonal and will not provide a living wage. Wages are generally quite low seldom above federal minimum wage on a per hour basis. You essentially have to become a migrant worker living in substandard housing provided by the farmers - often without running water, bath/shower facilities or toilets Yo, and you have to pay for this housing out of your wages. You have to be willing to work 12 hour days with no overtime paid. You have no health benefits, so if you get sick or injured you are going to have to pay out of pocket, because you won't qualify for state medicaid (you don't live long enough in any one state to qualify). If you have kids, they move through 3 or 4 school districts per year, and since both parents are out in the fields working, they don't have the time or energy to homeschool (and likely don't have the skills to begin with). It is a dead end life for you and your kids.
     
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    Bummer. Life's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Will you still say that when those people that are suffering start forcing the government to make laws to benefit themselves first?

    Or how about when they start violently revolting.

    You do know they outnumber the rich and affulent by a very large margin, don't you?

    Maybe a change in attitude is in order for everyone, including you.
     
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    Awww poor you. Life sucks. Now quit your whining, be a man and get a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing job. Or.... Keep whining like... I better stop before I really tell you what you need to hear.
     
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    Translation: I really have no argument to offer. How about I (*)(*)(*)(*), moan and accuse you of bragging about how much money make, even though it's a flat out lie?
     
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    Excellent explanation of the corporate aftermath.
     
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    Again, this is a product of the corporate stranglehold of near slave labor and mega profit playing out. Unfortunately, our society has become accustomed to "taking the shaft" (so to speak) as the last couple of generations has progressed. Corporate profiteers manipulate this situation (as they do with all things corporate) to their advantage, then after they've sucked out all they can get profit wise, they outsource labor overseas to stay fat and become fatter. People like Mitt Romney roll along, slip in (somehow) as a Presidential candidate and the public barely bats an eye. I wouldn't be surprised if come corporate conglomerate started suggesting things like students be required to clean and maintain their own schools (that they pay out the azz to attend) for free. (Wait...didn't right wing idol Newt Gangreen already suggest this?). It wouldn't be surprising to expect middle school kids to be required to become some part of a great corporate "program" to have them start working in sweat shops (probably soon to be the next corporate brainstorm...building high profit sweat shop facilities to "train" our kids to become "better citizens" or some other corporate crap) and pay them in McDonald's coupons once a year or something. Don't laugh. Some corporate CEO is brainstorming some scheme like this right now, I can almost guarantee you.
     
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    Sounds more like the "corporate tycoon", "I demand more and I demand you do it for less" complex (sickness) to me.
     
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    In Japan and Germany, CEO pay is only about 15 times what the average worker gets paid. According to Libretardian logic, those countries should have no motivation to produce. But their economies are world class. Also, in Germany, the workers get 6 weeks paid vacation and have representation on the Board of Directors. They call that "sweat equity," but Libretardians only recognize paper equity.
     
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    First the Capitaliban break your legs, then they expect you to be grateful when they give you a discount on a wheelchair. You've been set up but won't admit it. You weren't brought up right if you have such a slavish attitude. Your ancestors should have stayed in Europe and crawled in the dirt as they worshipped tne Nobility With No Ability.
     
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    We outnumber the plutocrats 100 to 1 and can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to make wine!
     
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    There are jobs Americans won't do and jobs many Americans can't do becuase they lack the requisite training precisely which are we talking about here?
    By the way we don't have a plutocracy we have a bureaucracy, a large ,self-perpetuating self-serving, unelected, and unaccontable bureaucracy, that often does what the hell it pleases without any regard to common sense or the courts.
     

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