physicist Stephen Hawking boycotts israel over palestine occupation

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  1. DrewBedson

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    He's a hypocritical rodent who loves Israeli technology, Chinese repression, Iranian fanaticism, US and British foreign policy but just wants to line up with the Hollywood Stars that are anti Israel.

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    Sorry, not Pallywood but Hollywood

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  2. Nahid

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    Hey! why do you skip our hand on the device?
    WITHOUT US Hawking the hypocrite, would never had talk.
    Do you want to attribute OUR success on someone else that born last century and did whatsoever chip?
    I dont give a damn.

    Hawking can go to hell :)
     
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    Hawking isn't a rodent and he'd probably say hell is exactly where he belongs but I doubt he believes he'll be anywhere but gone when he dies.

    He is lending his gravitas to the notion that the occupation must end and the land theft in the wb must stop.
    Perhaps like many there is a growing realization that this age old conflict that has created such global turmoil and continues to do so needs to come to an end. That a couple of million Israelis and a couple million palestinians can't continue to hold the region and in some ways the world hostage to their religious bullcrap.
     
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    He's a hypocritical rodent who loves Israeli technology, Chinese repression, Iranian fanaticism, US and British foreign policy. That he and others believe this comes down to a celebrity popularity contest with them having any more insight into it than your local barber or hairdresser shows how out of touch these people really are.

    Is he going to pull recognition for Israel and the cessation of the attacks against her from 1948 to this very day out of his but? If not he ought to keep his uninformed keiser aimed at the stars.

    It should never have started. UN Res 181 laid out two nations that would have worked. Now, for it to end, one peoples have to accept the others right to exist and then hope that the first group will allow them the opportunity they never gave them.

    Doesn't affect my life in any way shape or form. Never did and never will.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we'll just have to completely disagree on this one. Hawking is an intellectual giant.
     
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    Uh huh. And so, he just told you by his protest that Israel is allllllllll wrong and suicide bombing and terrorist rockets are the way to solve all life's problems.

    Very intellectual. Wolfe's charactiture of him depicts the truth.
     
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    Hawking has done nothing to even hint at your weird and self-aggrandizing invention. :mrgreen:


    Yay ! Stick it to 'em, Stevo. :mrgreen:
     
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    He just took a side. Are you unable to understand this? As a fact based scientist he is supposed to be above this sort of thing and, unless he is able to unravel the entire history of the middle east (using Israeli technology of course) and, come to some stellar foundation of logic that both parties can use for an equitable solution he is giving a knee jerk reaction in favor of a terrorist government. No surprise, he has no problems going to Iran or China where human rights are in the gutter.
     
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    That is insane. As a scientist he is well capable in his work to think objectively. Certainly he is trained for that. That does not stop him having a conscious. Your argument would simply suggest he has objectively looked at the information and on this his conscience has decided that he must make his position. To suggest a scientist ought not to have a conscience is terrifying.

    Your problem seems to be that you believe it is all about bias when this simply is not the case. I began with unconditional support for Israel. It is learning about the situation and as Israel has moved further and further to the right and the Palestinians have become more and more oppressed with no sign of ever getting out of it that has changed my opinion and that is to do with values. What you don't understand is that most people work on values not bias.
     
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    This thread is funny. There are all those that say that Hawking is not important, yet there are now approaching half of the 200 posts attacking him. Then there is an attack on his electronics, btw, Intel is an American company. Also people seem to forget that once any IC or electronic gadget becomes mass produced, it will be manufactured in the far east. I am considering boycotting those other Israeli companies - BAe, BP, Exxon, Boeing. Hmm. I must have worked for an Israeli company since I have just seen that Bae has a subsidary in Israel.
     
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    How ignorant can Hawking be??


    Read more... http://www.timesofisrael.com/confer...g-has-hosted-palestinian-speakers-every-year/
     
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    I am not saying that Israel has not provided him with hardware that enables him to speak. What I am saying is that there is nothing so uniquely "Israeli" about the technology that the voice synthesis could not be accomplished without other hardware. Therefore he is not exclusively dependent on Israeli technology, as you would have us believe.
     
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    oh yes? is that so easy? to invent the device that hawking use? can you do one yourself? what are u waiting for?

    but on second thoughts...
    why dont you invent a device that make the haters shut up instead?
    can you do that?
     
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    I can't do that, but given enough time, I could indeed write voice synthesis software. All I would need is a fast computer with a good operating system, a compiler, and some sensors for taking input.
     
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    every one can do it after is already done.....hahahaha

    the fact is, that while you were sitting on the puter 24/7, the smart Israelis worked hard and did it.

    the techno is ours.

    you can start being jealous now.
     
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    The Israelis didn't write the voice synthesis software. They did provide some hardware. There are other manufacturers that could provide hardware, adequate to do the job.
     
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    You have a funny way of showing you don't care.

    Voice synthesizers have been around for decades. Intel is an American company. Hawking's synthesizer is ancient - he has been offered more realistic synthesizers but he has refused them opting for a voice that sounds like a crappy robot to go with his image. There are children toys that translate keyed words into human like voice, there are telephone answer machines that translate text messages into a human like voice.

    All countries researching stem cell technology claim to be on the leading cutting edge front. They have to say that to get funding.
     
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    Obviously you have no electronic background. Voice synths are simple devices. We built them at university thirty years ago.
     
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    You mischaracterize his position. He is saying that stealing palestinian land is bad. He is saying that the occupation is bad. He is saying that its time for those that can do something no matter how small to do it.

    He isn't saying that Israel shouldn't defend itself against terrorist attacks. He isn't saying that Israel is evil and palestine is good.
    He isn't making any religious comment at all.

    A man of such intellect given the lifelong need to be concise in his words, generally says precisely what he means, no more and no less.

    I suggest you put away the zionist whitewash and accept the political realities in Israel and the territories today. Neither side is innocent, neither government has been all that sincere about peace. Reallity is the occupation is oppressive and humiliating and IDF kids can be prone to arbitrary abuse of their power over palestinians.

    You are a knowledgable person. Partisan polarization contributes nothing to way forward, the challenge in Israel/Palestine is to disrupt that polarization, accept the reality of failed strategies/tactics, and actually FIND the way forward.
     
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    others could had provide hardware but they didn't.
    Software is ours.
    Is so hard to say it in loud voice?
     
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    Israel did not write the software.
     
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    He is taking one issue and using his position to influence others to see it his way. The greater crime is that for sixty five years Israel has had a death sentence hanging over them from Palestinians.

    He says nothing but cherry picks his issue so therefore, he is a rat who pretends to not be a rat.
     
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    His computer uses a chip designed (and most likely produced) in Israel, the i7-2620m (Sandy Bridge) which is the translation of its hebrew code name when it was produced in Israel: "Geshur Hul". This is the same computer he uses to communicate.

    That, and some of the medical treatments for his disease are being refined in Israel:
    http://www.jpost.com/Health-and-Science/Scientists-make-breakthrough-in-ALS-treatment
     
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    Look Nahid, a chip is hardware. Software is different from hardware.
     

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