Anti-White Racism Has Reached Critical Mass In America

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  1. leftysergeant

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    He did open a thread using a video promoting the ideas of William Pierce, an American Nazi, the author of The Turner Diaries, if that gives you any useful information. A lot of his posts are pure National Vanguard rhetoric. Draw your own conclusions.
     
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    That won't be hard. Thanks for the information.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce

    Almost as pathetic as Don Black. Almost...but not quite:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist)
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    56% of Americans have Anti-Black racial prejudice so what percentage of the population has Anti-White racial prejudice?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/

    Even if every Black person in America had "Anti-White" racial prejudice, which they don't, it would only represent 13% of the American population.

    If racial prejudice has reached "critical mass" then it's Anti-Black racial prejudice which dwarfs any other forms of racial prejudice in the United States.
     
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    In fact invidious racial discrimination is worse today than it was in the 1960's.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    In short the foundation for the thread is invidious anti-Black racist propaganda based upon half-truths and lies.
     
  6. Zook

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    Oh wow... you're taking your "evidence" from a Zionist news source? I'll get right on believing those figures. :roll: Nothing deceptive about Zionist news at all...

    You do realise that Whites can be anti-White too, right? Did you watch the videos in the original post? Jews tend to be the most anti-White of them all and they hold all the power in America. So, going by your logic, if all races, including Whites, can be anti-White racists and all races make up 100% of the population in America, that must 100% of the American population are anti-White racists.

    [video=youtube;pLSgvBGj6i8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSgvBGj6i8[/video]

    I repeat, anti-White racism has reached critical mass.
     
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    So it doesn't matter if every black hates whites, it's the round number within the population that counts?

    I can see how that makes sense to some people, it allows for squirrel spotting when looking at real crime statistics too.
     
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    I can only note that many "white nationalist" racists are generally anti-Semitic as well. They have created a conspiracy theory that the Jews are controlling the United States and the "Western World" based upon unsupported allegations and outright BS.

    The study was done by GfK, an international marketing firm, that is a publically traded corporation with it's headquarters in Germany. The Associated Press sponsored the study and reported the results. Neither GfK or the AP are "Jewish" controlled entities.

    The study results remain undisputed by any contradictory studies that establish any other percentages for explicit anti-black racial prejudice in the United States.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    What matters is the consequences of prejudice and that is measured across the board. We know, for example, that when a white person and a black person have virtually identical education, job experience and interview skills that a white person is 2.4 to 3.4 times more likely to be hired for a job than the black applicant based solely upon the racial difference between the two. We know that a black person is 22-times more likely to be the victim of a racially based hate crime. We know that blacks are disproportionately arrested, prosecuted, and receive longer prison sentences than a white person when all other factors are identical. We know that a black person only receives 60% of the compensation for a job where all other factors but race are considered. We know that there isn't any anti-white discrimination in the United States while there is extensive anti-black discimination in America.

    "Cause and effect" and we need to look at the effects of prejudice across the board so yes,the overall numbers are very significant.

    It is ironic that some believe that an oppressed person shouldn't be resentful of the person oppressing them. They condemn the "oppressed" and rationalize the acts of the "oppressor" because of their own prejudice because they're one of the oppressors.
     
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    100% bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Read THE COLOR OF CRIME if you have the guts to see the truth. The treatise uses only real FBI crime statistics to put that load of garbage to bed once and for all.

    Blacks commit more crime, by massive proportion. The stats are evident. You need to read to study before coming back with the usual slight-of-hand apologist bilge. All the nonsense arguments are destroyed.
     
  11. Zook

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    I'm not a White-Nationalist. I've already explained numerous times on this forum that I'm only 50% White by White-Nationalist standards. But the FACT that Zionists occupy and control all western governments and media is undisputed as many Zionists have come out and admitted as much. I suggest you read David Rockefeller's autobiography.

    Your "study" results remain biased and meaningless to anyone who can tear themselves away from televitz long enough to think for themselves.
     
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    The trouble with most leftist anti-racist/anti-White people is they're brainwashed by televitz and cannot think clearly for themselves. They regurgitate the same old tired liberal nonsense the Zionist media tells them to say like "black crime is all to do with poverty" and pass it off as "critical thinking" thinking that they've actually looked into the matter and found a reason that totally excuses rampant uncivilized behaviour from the black community. When in actuality, going against the mainstream explanations and looking into why even rich and famous blacks act in the exact same thuggish ways the hoodrat blacks act and discovering that blacks are inherently violent and uncivilized no matter how impoverished they are is what critical thinking really is.

    In other words, you're wasting your time. No anti-racist/anti-White person is going to look at the Color of Crime and see the truth. They're completely incapable. Zionist brainwashing is a powerful tool and only the individual himself can break the spell. I should know, I was once under it myself.
     
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    I was in the same boat as the rest of the ignorant ones before discovering sources that were not afraid to call things as they really are. I too once thought it was odd that so many more blacks were arrested for crimes and it didn't make sense to me, which is why I myself researched beyond the propaganda we are fed routinely from the usual suspects.

    It's not easy to one day realize you have been sold a bill of goods containing no truth at all and it takes some guts and humility to admit when you have been suckered. Too many people are not willing to admit they've been used like an old tampon, they would rather continue to propagate falsehoods to "save face". Talk about insanity.
     
  14. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I have never implied that any member of Political Forum is a "white nationalist" and wouldn't make that claim even if they openly admitted it. I address opinions expressed and not persons.

    I don't believe my claim that most White Nationalists are not only racist but are also anti-Semitic well can be disputed. I can provide ample sources for that claim if called upon to do so. Many of the White National organizations are neo-Nazi organizations that are expressly anti-Semitic as well as racist.


    What someone's opinion is about "who controls the news media" is nothing but an opinion. I have never read of any news reporter, whether on TV or in print, has ever stated that anyone "controlled" the content of their reporting. Some may have personal ideologies, such as support for Israel, that influence their reporting but that is not coming from any outside source and most reporting the news are not Jewish. In the reporting of the news overwhelmingly those responsibile, except for opinion writers, make every attempt to remove their personal bias from their reporting of the news.

    There has never been a rebuttal to the studies on racism I've presented. For example, the 2012 study that established that 78% of Republicans expressed explicit racial prejudice remains undisputed. Not one study since then has established any other precentage for racial prejudice by Republicans. If the 78% is invalid then another study would have to establish a conflicting percentage. Another study, for example, could conclude that only 50% of Republicans express explicit racial prejudice contradicting the 78% conclusion of the current study. That has never been done and there are no conflicting studies with the one I've referenced.

    Simply saying "I don't believe that 78% of Republicans express explicit racial prejudice" is an unsupported and bigoted opinion and it is not the same as providing a rebuttal to that percentage. If it's not 78% then what percentage of Republicans express explicit racial prejudice and what study was used to establish the other percentage? Providing facts is rebuttal but living in denial of the facts is not rebuttal.
     
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    Here is what we actually see. The above represents an opinion that is unsupported by any scientific studies which contradict virtually everything stated.

    Additionally being opposed to racism and discrimination of any kind would contradict the unsupported and false opinion that those opposing "anti-black" racism and discrimination endorse "anti-white" racism and discrimination. A person that opposes racism and discrimination opposes all forms of racism and discrimination.

    What those opposing anti-black racism point out is that there is extensive discrimination against blacks in the United States based upon scientific study after scientific study. There are no studies that establish discrimination against White Males in the United States (women of all races are discriminated against in the United States which is the reason for the caveat). There is unquestionably some anti-White racism in the United States but it does not result in discrimination based upon any scientific study. Anecdotal cases of discrimination obviously exist but anecdotal cases do not create a statistical significance.
     
  16. Zook

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    Well, you mentioned White-Nationalists, no one else did. What they have to do with the discussion, I'll never know. I can find just as much proof that many non-White-Nationalists can be anti-Semetic too. I'm one of them for example. Usually anyone who doesn't live their life by scientific studies and thinks for themselves ends up anti-Semetic. Probably because once you find out the truth you'll see Zionists are responsible for more killing, raping, robbing and degradation than 10 billion Nazis on speed. It's perfectly natural to oppose unabashed evil... and the truth is right infront of your eyes.

    Hey, if I ran a group who controlled all the power, wealth, corporations, law enforcement, etc, etc, in the world, I wouldn't put out scientific studies "proving" how we were doing it and how evil we were either. :wink: :roll:

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    Yeah, I'm sooooooooooo glad I don't need a "scientific" study to tell me concrete is hard. :roll:

    :roflol:
     
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    That's actually not true at all. Rarely do so-called "anti-racists address racism towards Whites. I don't think I've ever seen it. Additionally, Eric Holder has already admitted Whites cannot be a victim of "hate crimes." This is one of the most blatant examples of anti-White bigotry for those people who can't think for themselves and rely on scientific studies to guide their lives and STILL they don't say a word about it. A black can be a target of a racist beating by Whites and see his attackers face lengthy jail terms on hate crime charges. A White can be racially beaten by a group of blacks shouting racial epithets at him and see his attackers face laughable jail sentences because hate crime charges won't apply. No one cares.

    [video=youtube;YOABBn5Tnm0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOABBn5Tnm0[/video]

    Even more additionally, FORCED multi-culturalism on ALL White countries and ONLY White countries (Europe) will lead to the extinction of the host race, culture(s) and customs. This is simple logic and hopefully we won't need a "scientific study" to tell us grass is green here. I've actually seen so-called anti-racists brag, beam and fantasize about the future of the world with no Whites in it. Examples of this can be found all over the internet. Multi-cultists don't flood tens of millions of Whites, blacks and Muslims into other non-White parts of the world which will keep all non-White races pure and ensure survival for many centuries to come. Only Whites face the fate of extinction. This is actually genocide according to the 1949 Geneva Convention act and also the most alarming example of anti-racism being a code word for anti-White. No one cares.

    Lastly, when do you ever see so-called anti-racists address anti-White racism? If you could post some "scientific studies" proving they have that would be great, but I tend to rely more on reality and a real life example would be better. I go to racial forums around the web a lot. On Stormfront's Opposing Views section you witness multiple anti-Whites blasting White-Nationalism and calling them racist for trying to ensure White survival. Then I go to Topix - African American forum and witness blacks say, literally, the most disgusting and hateful things about Whites and not an anti-racist in sight addressing it. It's the same story on every pro-White and pro-black forum around the web and it's a reflection of real life enviroments. No one cares.

    I could go on like this all day. But I don't have any "scientific studies" to back it up, just reality, so I doubt you'll care.
     
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    Yes, there are many anti-Semites that are not White Nationalists but most White Nationalist are anti-Semitic. It's like the study on racial prejudice. Many Democrats expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice (32%) but most almost all Republilicans express explicit racial prejudice (78%).

    Zionism is a political ideology that is not representative of all Jews and many Jews oppose it. Being anti-Semitic is against all Jews whether they support the political ideology of Zionism or not. I highly oppose Zionism but I'm not anti-Semitic because I don't oppose Jews at all. I oppose the political ideology and the actions based upon it that violate the Inalienable Rights of the Person and not the individual Zionist. The same is true of racism. I oppose the acts of the racist that violate the Inalienable Rights of Individuals but not the individual racist. It is the "act" that is offensive and not the "person" that is offensive.
     
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    That's correct. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS.
     
  20. Zook

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    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:

    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:

    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:

    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:

    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:

    I'm going to need to see a scientific study on that. Otherwise it's not true. Anecdotal BS is anecdotal BS. :roll:
     
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    LOL! I see you showed just how asinine this Shiva's comments are here. What's good for the racist goose is just as good for the anti racist gander. I see Shiva hasn't of yet lived in or experienced the real world that isn't necessarily made up of charts and or statistics. Common sense is being left out of his responses here as well.
     
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    The fact remains that there isn't anti-white discrimination in America nor are whites subjected to extensive violence based upon racism.

    Whether a person is a racist or not is irrelevant because the only thing that matters is "discrimination" based upon racism and "acts of violence" based upon racism.

    White males receive preferential treatment in employment where, when all things are equal except skin color, a white man is 2.4 to 3.4 times more likely to be hired than a black man. Proven in 2003 by a scientific study.
    Blacks men employed in the identical jobs only receive about 60% of the compensation when compared to a white man. Proven by numerous scientific studies over the last 20 years.
    Blacks are 22-times more likely to be a victim of a race-based hate crime than a white person. Proven by FBI statistics on hate crimes.
    Based upon a scientific study 32% of Democrats, 78% of Republicans, and 56% of ALL Americans expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice and that dwarfs the entire African-American population in the United States.

    Critical mass relative to racism has certainly been reached but it's anti-black racial prejudice and racism that is at a critical mass.
     
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    JPRD 25 May 2013

    The US government in the forms of the FBI and DOJ make it almost impossible to evaluate interracial crime IF the offenders are black. Nevertheless, data do exist if one looks for them, is able to interpret them, and then performs the calculations needed to analyze them. There is one "Table" in particular, Table #42, that's kept by The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS). That table provides data on the race of victims, and the race of offenders for various forms of crime. Even that Table, however, attempts to "hide" the statistics by including some as total numbers and others as percentages. Only by adjusting the percentages into actual numbers can one understand the extent and nature of interracial crime. It's interesting to note that whereas Table #42 was included regularly on the BJS website for more than ten years straight, no data has been added in those Tables since...... 2007! Coincidence?

    There are three (3) categories of "Violent" crime that stand out in BJS Table #42. Those categories are "Completed Violence", "Forcible Rape/Sexual Assault", and "Assault" (both Simple & Aggravated). How often have we heard leftwing black AND white race-baiters claim that whites abuse blacks??? Too many to count. The leftwing race-baiters blame Whites for everything, demonizing whites in the minds of black citizens. These race-baiting demagogues are responsible for what's become an all-out epidemic of hatred and violence perpetrated by blacks against whites. The race-baiting leftists have virtually Justified such violence! WHAT are the real Facts about interracial crime?

    I researched the three categories of violent crime listed above. I used the four most-recent years for which data exist, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007. Following are the averages of those interracial crimes:

    COMPLETED VIOLENCE: Whites committed such crimes against blacks 3.1% of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, committed that crime against whites 44.8% of the time.

    FORCIBLE RAPE/SEXUAL ASSAULT: Whites committed such crimes against blacks 0% of the time. That means that less than ten cases were committed each year 2004-2007, and could not even be quantified as a percentage. During those same years, blacks committed such crimes against whites 58% of the time. Blacks committed these crimes more against whites than against those of their own race! Before some race-baiting leftist tells us that white women asked to be sexually abused by blacks, they should consider the fact that a good number of such assaults resulted in the beating, torture, and death of the white females!!! Black racists view the rape of white females to be a "Corrective Crime", aimed at punishing whites for the perceived abuse of blacks!

    ASSAULT: Whites committed such crimes against blacks 4.1% of the time. Blacks committed assaults against whites 46% of the time.

    The 2 conclusions drawn from these statistics are clear. (1) Whites commit violent crimes against blacks less than 5% of the time. (2) Blacks commit violent crimes against whites virtually 50% of the time. Many blacks specifically target white people for violence! Whites seldom target blacks for violence these days, and haven't for a LONG TIME!

    Those who espouse the LIE about "black-on-black" violence are misleading us. Blacks commit violence against blacks about 1/2 of the time. Whites, on the other hand, commit violence against whites 95% of the time. Conclusion? The safest place for any black citizen to be is with WHITE citizens! They stand almost no chance of being the target of violence!
     
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    Is that true? Interesting! Nothing you would hear from mainstream news and politics, of course.

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    I honestly had no clue about any of this. Very informative post!
     
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    Charles, the truth is indeed surprising given what we hear daily from leftist race-baiters. I didn't take notice of this at the time, but the statistics I posted are consistent with the statement that Polar Bear made. He stated that 9 out of 10 interracial crimes of violence are committed against white. The statistics I posted indicated that whites committed violent crimes against blacks no more than 5% of the time. 5% equates to 1/2 times out of 10, or when rounding up, one could claim 1 out of 10. In reality, however, it happens LESS than 1 out of 10.
     

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