Not all religion is necessarily misogynistic, but it is certainly ideological and unreasonable by nature. The religious tend toward utopian and ideological thinking, and ignore facts that run counter to that thinking. They also tend to come up with high standards to apply to everyone else, as in everyone should be abstinent, should get married and stay married, etc. Such thinking is irresponsible and ultimately dangerous, however, since it cannot really translate into workable solutions in the real world. All it'll do is annoy people and, all too often, drive the kinds of thinking and behavior that they condemn underground. They hate a part of humanity and hope to drive it away, but in so doing they only send it into the shadows, where it may grow worse and have unintended consequences.
That's disputable. Given that many self-abort or develop fatal flaws in the womb, I'd say it's not all that cut 'n dried.
I don't know, to be honest. How many religions are you familiar with? I'm just giving those I don't know much if anything about the benefit of the doubt. Religion certainly doesn't have to be against women by its nature.
There is no organised religion no, but pagans worship far more female deities than male and most of there "top dogs" are priestesses. http://isle-of-avalon.com/pagan.htm
As yet the only religion I have studied that is not predominately misogynistic is probably one of the oldest and that is paganism, which as anyone who has researched modern religions knows is the forerunner to Christianity and most other modern religions, in fact modern religions have stolen and adapted numerous pagan stories to appeal to the masses.
Ya, I remember reading a book about 6th and 7th century Ireland. They had equal rights (divorce laws, child support, laws against beating a wife, far advanced of modern Americans who thought it was OK for men to beat their wives until the last half of the 20th century !!) and pagan gods...then christianity reared it's ugly hateful head and changed that stuff....took away women's rights and but let them iron doilies for the church and do all the grunt work...
Pagan religion is an interesting subject to research it is based on the duality of male and female, with the female being revered slightly higher than the male as she is the life giver .. hence why we have mother nature. Christianity took paganism and bastardized it even to the extent of stealing one of its most revered symbols, the ankh, and turning it into the cross. So many christian symbols, festivals and myths are based on paganism, the biggest difference is that early christian leaders corrupted the duality of male and female to position the male as dominant purely for power.
"Mississippi Could Soon Jail Women for Stillbirths, Miscarriages" http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/buckhalter-mississippi-stillbirth-manslaughter
How utterly ridiculous, just goes to show that some pro-lifers will go to any lengths to ensure everyone adheres to their restrictive ideology .. It would be ironic if one of these people gets pregnant, has a miscarriage and is prosecuted under the very law they helped bring about, simply because they ate too much pineapple.
Pineapple and sandpaper...the pro-abort position only points. - - - Updated - - - A pagan....explaining something he does not even believe in....or follows. LMAO
You still have not once explained why you assume everyone who is not a Christian is automatically a pagan.
This is a blatant untruth. Science tells us when life starts. Included in medical textbooks..taught in medical schools. ""By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic And here are a lot of different statements backing up life starting at conception. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote." [England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31] "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception). "Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being." [Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2] "Embryo: the developing organism from the time of fertilization until significant differentiation has occurred, when the organism becomes known as a fetus." [Cloning Human Beings. Report and Recommendations of the National Bioethics Advisory Commission. Rockville, MD: GPO, 1997, Appendix-2.] "Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus." [Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146] "Embryo: The early developing fertilized egg that is growing into another individual of the species. In man the term 'embryo' is usually restricted to the period of development from fertilization until the end of the eighth week of pregnancy." [Walters, William and Singer, Peter (eds.). Test-Tube Babies. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1982, p. 160] "The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote." [Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3] "I would say that among most scientists, the word 'embryo' includes the time from after fertilization..." [Dr. John Eppig, Senior Staff Scientist, Jackson Laboratory (Bar Harbor, Maine) and Member of the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 31] "The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote." [Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3] "The question came up of what is an embryo, when does an embryo exist, when does it occur. I think, as you know, that in development, life is a continuum.... But I think one of the useful definitions that has come out, especially from Germany, has been the stage at which these two nuclei [from sperm and egg] come together and the membranes between the two break down." [Jonathan Van Blerkom of University of Colorado, expert witness on human embryology before the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 63] "Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote." [Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1] "The chromosomes of the oocyte and sperm are...respectively enclosed within female and male pronuclei. These pronuclei fuse with each other to produce the single, diploid, 2N nucleus of the fertilized zygote. This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development." [Larsen, William J. Human Embryology. 2nd edition. New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1997, p. 17] "Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity." [O'Rahilly, Ronan and Müller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}] "Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual." [Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3] A United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee invited experts to testify on the question of when life begins. All of the quotes from the following experts come directly from the official government record of their testimony.1 Dr. Alfred M. Bongiovanni, professor of pediatrics and obstetrics at the University of Pennsylvania, stated: I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception.... I submit that human life is present throughout this entire sequence from conception to adulthood and that any interruption at any point throughout this time constitutes a termination of human life.... I am no more prepared to say that these early stages [of development in the womb] represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty...is not a human being. This is human life at every stage. Dr. Jerome LeJeune, professor of genetics at the University of Descartes in Paris, was the discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down syndrome. Dr. LeJeune testified to the Judiciary Subcommittee, after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being. He stated that this is no longer a matter of taste or opinion, and not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence. He added, Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception. Professor Hymie Gordon, Mayo Clinic: By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception. Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth, Harvard University Medical School: It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive.... It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.... Our laws, one function of which is to help preserve the lives of our people, should be based on accurate scientific data. Dr. Watson A. Bowes, University of Colorado Medical School: The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matterthe beginning is conception. This straightforward biological fact should not be distorted to serve sociological, political, or economic goals. National Geographic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT5ITcgzZ_o Nucleus Medical Media http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J70-iO0Dl8A
Yeah of course they are didn't you know that Please show me where I say I am a pagan, or yet again is this thrusting your beliefs onto other people, seems to be a normal thing for pro-lifers to do. Religion is an interesting subject why should there be a need to believe it or follow it in order to study it? A anti-abortionist ... explaining something she does not even believe in....or follow. LMAO
Regardless of how many outdated and pro-life sources you post, there is still no consensus about when life begins, and I have provided sufficient evidence to prove it. Both the sperm and egg are already alive at conception, which is the beginning of the reproductive process ending at birth.
You always get this kind of nonsense from the pro abort crowd when the inevitable seems to be happening, that being abortion being made illegal again.
You wouldn't be here posting if you weren't worried about it, it will happen. - - - Updated - - - There were no facts that supported the hyperbole laden hysterical title.
The notion that a normal stillbirth will be prosecuted certainly is. This woman killed her baby using Meth. She deserves what she got. Once again the law determined that the child in utero is a person.
Read the article. There was no proof the trace amount of meth caused the miscarriage, but pro life zealots will reach for any excuse to punish women, even without proof. Even normal miscarriages and stillbirths will have to be investigated.
