Anti-White Racism Has Reached Critical Mass In America

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  1. JohnnyMo

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    Does the ^^ mean you're half black?
     
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    That's because blacks only represent about 13% of the population. Therefore, the above statement says that virtually all black people have anti-white racial prejudice.

    But can anyone blame them?
     
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    No, it doesn't.
     
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    Yes they can. If you're going to punish White racism, you have to punish all forms of racism. Otherwise you're just a hypocrite and hypocrisy is unacceptable.

    But if you ask me, racism is perfectly natural and disliking other races is every human being's right.
     
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    Very informative post. Thank you for contributing. The truth is something that should always be highlighted
     
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    Thanks, Zook. In my mind, the constant emphasis on supposed "white racism" is an outrageous abuse of the truth. Leftist demagogues, both blacks and whites, are responsible for the high rate of violence against whites. Their constant demonization of the white race is an incitement to that violence. Their accusations against those with white skin are not just lies, they're in 100% opposition to the truth. It's time the race-baiting demagogues of ALL colors are confronted with the truth..... and kicked back into the gutter from whence they came.
     
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    In addition to your uninformed and bigoted outlook on racial relations, you're obviously not a math whiz! The percentages I provided, and the statistic that Polar Bear quoted have nothing to do with the total black population. The percentages relate solely to those persons within the black and white communities who commit violent crimes.

    In every category of violent crime I listed, whites committed more total acts than blacks did. That's understandable, for whites represent a much larger percentage of the population. When whites did commit such crimes, however, 95% of the violence was against other whites. As percentages of each population, the data stacks up as follows:

    Completed Violence: These crimes were committed by whites at a rate that was .5% of the white population. Blacks committed these types of crimes at a rate that was 1.5% of the black population, 3-times that of whites.

    Forcible Rape/Sexual Assault: These crimes were committed by whites at a rate that was .08% of the white population. Blacks committed these types of crimes at a rate that was .2% of the black population, 2.5-times that of whites.

    Assault: These crimes were committed by whites at a rate that was .66% of the white population. Blacks committed these types of crimes at a rate that was 1.6% of the black population, 2.5-times that of whites.


    Every DECENT and OBJECTIVE person blames them! Sounds like you think such violence is justified. :roll:
     
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    What a load of absolute nonsense. My god, academia has become replete with politically correct bias.

    I'd really like to see the actual survey. Anybody have a link to it? Because stuff like this doesn't bode well for objective criteria:

    Generalizations are typically based on personal experience. And everyone uses them to some degree. Including the people who designed this survey. By no means does this mean they are putting others into an immovable box that cannot be escaped. Which means that individual character overrides generalization the vast majority of the time. So to call this a litmus test for racism is dishonest. Further proof is in the following. Did this survey bother to ask these same 79% of allegedly racist Republicans if they would vote for someone like Herman Cain? In other words, a black person with integrity and business sense who shares their values? This is the only way to add proper context. A legitimate racist won't care about any of that. They will disregard the person anyway based on race alone. But I would be very surprised if such a question was asked in this survey. Because things like this are never asked. Because they put a kink in the social narrative. They expose the uncomfortable truth that no matter what color you are, if you act like a gentleman, you will typically be treated as such by most people. And this takes away everybody's victim card.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Here is the fundamental facts that racists cannot deny.

    There is no statistical evidence supporting any belief that "whites" are disciminated against in America. There is statistical evidence that there is widespread discrimination agianst "blacks" in America.

    When it comes to racially motivated hate crimes a "black" person is roughly 22-times more likely to be a victim of an anti-black racial hate crime when compared to a "white" being a victim of an anti-white hate crime (re FBI Hate Crime Statistics).

    When it comes to racial prejudice a 2012 study concluded that 56% of Americans expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice and that represents over four-times the entire number of "blacks" in America.

    We have reached "critical mass" related to anti-black racial prejudice because over 1/2 of all Americans express anti-black racial prejudice.


    At only 13% of the population there aren't even enough "blacks" in America to reach a "critical mass" level of racial prejudice.
     
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    The challenge remains. Provide any ligitimate study that establishes different precentages of "racial prejudice" that would contradict the study's conclusion that 56% of all Americans, 78% of all Republicans, and 32% of all Democrats express explicit anti-black racial prejudice.

    If these numbers are wrong then provide a ligitimate study that establishes conflicting numbers.

    Simply living in denial based upon bigoted opinion is not rebuttal. Provide conflicting conclusions based upon a scientific study would be a ligitimate rebuttal where the validity of the two studies could be compared. So far we have an undisputed scientific study.
     
  11. Zook

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    Yeah, you're right. No statistical evidence exists. But the videos below are real life examples. But we can ignore them because some scientist with a Zionist agenda didn't acknowledge them in a "study." :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOABBn5Tnm0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ycLwXSxt4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vUoeDUajx0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaxB-ynCgsc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXpxwrV4c4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgiAdo0-itA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5noNd-UiuI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9UIjrfTiYg


    Your argument is actually very childish and embarrassing. I'm surprised you keep sticking to it.
     
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    It takes a "simple" mind to conclude that a "simple" study represents reality. Nevertheless, for the purpose of debate, I'll except the study you described as factual. I suspect that the supposed "predjudice" expressed by some of the population, some of the GOP, and some Democrats lies in 2 PROVEN Facts: (1) It's blacks who receive special treatment in the USA, not whites. That's a good cause for white resentment. (2) The Proven Facts that I presented clearly show that blacks are violent towards whites, and that the violence is epidemic! THAT's an understandable cause for white resentment!

    Accepting that your study is correct, what does that tell you? It tells everyone with a brain that whereas whites may have some resentment against blacks, whites DO NOT commit violence against blacks because of that resentment. Your "study" didn't provide figures that I saw related to predjudices that blacks hold against whites. What we DO know, however, is that blacks commit violence against whites every day of every year! CASE CLOSED!
     
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    The problem is that these are not FACTS but instead is based upon anti-black propaganda. The FACTS are presented below that document that both claims are FALSE.

    Preferential Treatment in Hiring Practices.

    http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_09172003/

    While this is an older study the fundamental facts have not changed and it clearly reflect that when all things are equal except race that whites receive highly preferential treatment in hiring practices in the United States where whites are 2.4 to 3.4 times more likely to hired (i.e. second interviews almost always result in hiring of the applicant) than a black applicant.

    Racially Motivated Crime Statistics:

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2010/narratives/hate-crime-2010-victims

    When adjusted based upon a per capita basis a black person is roughly 22-times more likely to be a victim of an anti-black hate crime than a white person is likely to be a victim of an anti-white hate crime.

    This thread is about racism and only statistical information related to racism is applicable and that is the information I've provided. Based upon the fact that there is extensive discrimination in hiring practices where whites receive preferential treatment and the fact that most racially motivated crimes are committed agianst blacks and not whites the evidence is overwhelming that the problem in the United States is anti-black racism. Additionally, whether someone wants to accept the prior study that over 56% of Americans, 78% of Republicans, and 32% of Democrats have expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice no one has ever provided any statistical analysis that contradicts this study.
     
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    Jim and Crow have not been fully removed from American society and it never will be removed, it is here to stay as it is actually part of the fabric of the United States. There is always someone to hate in this country and it is promulgated by those who have the loudest hue and cry about it, and NO, I am not talking about Black folks as a whole though there are some of us who continue t think like the devils who hate us. If this post seems harshly worded, that is only a matter of perception.
    Now, back to those who give the loudest hue and cry about anti-this and anti-that, many are the children of those who instigated as well as instituted Jim and Crow, so-called SunDown policies and helped to fashion legislation that relegated Black folks and others as less than respectable. Yes, the history of the United States is filled with lovable people who claim to be the "friends" of those whom they have subjected to wickedness.
     
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    End of story, There is no statistical evidence of significant anti-white racism or discrimination against whites in America because all of the statisticaly evidence reflects significant anti-black racial prejudice and discrimination.

    That doesn't imply there aren't rare anecdotal cases of anti-white racism in American because we're a nation of over 300 million people but those cases are statistically insignificant.
     
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    There is tons of Anti white racism. There is the endemic rape of white women by black men and yet none of the opposite.Eric Holder is a racist.
     
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    Rape is not generally considered to be a racially motivated criminal act and statistically a white woman is far more likely to be raped by a white man than by a black man.

    Rape, robbery, murder, burlary, etc. are all serious crimes but this thread is about racism and is not about criminal activities lacking any racial motivation.
     
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    rape is a hate crime. When its inter racial its a racist hate crime. White men don't rape black women. Black men are statistically vastly more likley to rape than white men are. You can hardly blame poverty for rape.
     
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    Just because a crime is inter-racial (i.e. the victim of the crime is of a different race) doesn't establish that the crime is based upon racism and white men most certainly do rape black women. I don't know where the silly idea came from that they don't.

    We can also note that based upon rape/murder statistics that 8 out of 10 are intraracial (i.e. the victim is of the same race) and roughly 85% of "black" rapes are of black, not white, women. Considering that "white women" outnumber "black women" by about 5 to 1 random chance alone would indicate that the "odds" of a black man raping a white woman should be much higher than it actually is. The fact is, based upon crime statistics, that the rape of a white woman by a black man is actually extremely rare regardless of anecdotal stories that might make the news and there doesn't appear to be any "racial" motivation related to rape in general.

    We might agree that "rape" is a "hate crime" but it is not a "racially motivated hate crime" based upon law enforcement criteria. The rapist generally doesn't care what the race of the woman is and it is not a consideration related to motive.
     
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    Just because an interracial crime occurs it doen't make it a "hate crime" under the law.

    http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hate-crime/

    Under the law rape is a crime against the person but for an interracial rape to be considered to be a "racial hate crime" it would have to be established that the crime was primarily motivated because racial bias and not based upon "socioeconomics, anger, power, sadism, sexual pleasure, psychopathy, or ethical standards" (the primary motives for rape). Rarely is there any evidence that rape is primarly based upon "racial bias" and I was unable to find any statistical information where rape was motivated by racial bias. I couldn't even find anecdotal evidence where rape was ever prosecuted as a "hate crime" in the US but would assume that it has occurred in rare cases.

    Hate crimes tend to be predominately related to destruction of property, battery, and murder from what I've been able to find. They typically lack any other real motivation other than "hate" as a foundation for the crime.

    The fact that "racists" want to misrepresent what a "hate crime" is does not change the definition of a hate crime under the laws of the United States. I will challenge the "racists" to provide even an anacdotal case of where the rape of a white woman by a black man was prosecuted as a "racial hate crime" because I've been unable to find any evidence of that happening just as I've been unable to find any evidence where the rape of a black woman by a white man was prosecuted as a hate crime. Rape is not normally considered a "racial hate crime" because it is not based upon a bias against the race of the victim.

    We can provide an almost unending list of anti-black "hate crimes" being committed by whites being prosecuted though but can only find a relatively few cases of anti-white "hate crimes" being committed by blacks.
     
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    Under which law exactly ? The US has 52 Jurisdictions. You are just making it up.

    Where is the statistical evidence of white men raping black women?

    With Eric Holder who refuses to prosecute black hate crimes then its hardly suprising is it (bet you love Holder)
     
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    Here is a link to the legal definition of rape and it is not identified as a hate crime.

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Rape

    I don't have current statistics but historically we do.

    We can also note that based upon the link I provided on the legal definition of rape only about 16% of all rapes are reported so we actually know very little statistically related to rape. What we do know is that interracial rape still remains a small percentage of all rapes.

    Eric Holder is the US Attorney General and isn't involved in the routine criminal investigations and prosecutions by the FBI. We can also note that the rape laws are enforced under state laws and not under federal laws. It is predominately up to state law enforcement to identify hate crimes that would warrant state or federal prosecution.

    The "racists" would like to identify any interracial crime as being a racially motivated hate crime but the fact is that few are. The FBI maintains statistics on hate crimes predominately based upon state law inforcement reporting and overall the number of hate crimes annually are only a few thousand. In case of racially motivated hate crimes most cases the person committing the hate crime is a white person and not a black person. 70% of all racially motivated hate crimes are committed by whites! That is a FACT. As noted and documented a black person is 22-times more likely to be a victim of an racially based hate crime than a white person. Racists don't like this fact so they attempt to change the definition of "hate crime" to include any crime that they can possibly use to change this fact. Sorry but that boat don't float.
     
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    There is no Single legal definition. Every country and state has its own definitions. you clearly have no legal training in ANY jurisdiction. Is penetration of the anus rape? Of the mouth? Is a person who fellates another against their will committing rape? It differs! as hate crime is ANY crime when committed with teh added hatred against a group.


    .

    How do yopu know if they are racially motivated or not?


    You approve of his conduct though, don;t you.

    And yet whites are 72% of the US population. If we beleive your figures then white people are slightly under represented in hate crimes.

    When a white person attacks a non white then you liberals scream 'racist' as Zimmerman/martin proved. Yet when the opposite happens you always excuse the black criminal. FACT black people are over represented in just about every crime and ALL violent crimes

    So which Marxists defintion of Hate crime do you use?



    Oh historically. Nothing recent then. I'm talking about right now this year not back in the days of slavery.


    Black women being raped by white men is statistically tiny. Funny how you don't actually reference these statistics. then compare them to actual numbers. FACT. Black men commit rape vastly out of proportion to their numbers
     
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    Show me any state or federal law where it specifies that interracial rape is to be prosecutied as a racially motivated hate crime.

    Endless statements that interracial rape is a racially motivated hate crime where there no evidence of this being true under the law is nothing but racist propaganda.
     

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