USA Executes Boston Bombing Witness

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/05/31/toda-m31.html

"FBI and other law enforcement officials revealed Wednesday that Ibragim Todashev, the 27-year-old Chechen immigrant who was shot and killed after being interrogated for days about the Boston Marathon bombings, had been unarmed.

At the time of his death, Todashev had undergone prolonged interrogation by a team of FBI agents accompanied by Massachusetts state troopers and counterterrorism officials. The marathon questioning took place in Todashev’s own apartment, where he was held prisoner while denied representation by a lawyer.

Now, it emerges that one of the only individuals in the US who could have potentially shed light on Tsarnaev’s ties to Chechnya was shot to death execution-style by US agents.

Was it a case of a man who knew too much? Could Tsarnaev have shared information with Todashev that compromised covert operations by US intelligence?

The involvement of US intelligence agencies both in promoting Islamist separatist forces in the former Soviet Union and utilizing such forces as proxy troops in countries like Libya and Syria is well known. Is it possible that Tamerlan Tsarnaev became involved somehow in these links?

On the other hand, virtually every major terror incident on US soil since 9/11 has been orchestrated by the FBI using agent provocateurs, who provided everything needed to carry out an attack before arresting their patsies and announcing another victory in the “war on terrorism.” Was this such a staged incident that got out of hand, or, perhaps, allowed to proceed?"

 

Wouldn't doubt it. Or maybe they played the FBI and made them feel like fools.

It is sad looking at these extremist thinking they are fighting for Allah, yet really for KSA and USA

 

I think the suspect was killed by one or more FBI Agent(s) who had a pang of hatred over the bombing, and that it was a personal attack, not the official policy of the FBI.

Unfortunately, it's very common in human nature for people to leash out with revenge killing after a horrific event when they are near the ground, or personally involved, or emotionally invested in a tragedy.

 

It must be difficult for some of you to have to suppress your feelings of grief, sadness or disappointment on these pages whenever Jihadists are killed.

I always wince and/or feel a twinge of remorse when any of our service members or US citizens are killed by your Jihadist brethren. But, I can vent my feelings here at home with my family and friends and I appreciate being able to express my anger or sadness here at PF among like minded individuals.

But you can't plainly state in public forum how much you hate America or the US military or even the Conservatives who wave the US flag, so to speak. And you can't express your sadness or discouragement in a Jihadist friendly thread with your fellow Muslims.

I don't approve of your religion's goals or methods and I certainly deplore your brethren's killing and wounding US citizens and forces. I have no real dislike of Islam. In fact, I have no feelings about Islam one way or the other. I just want to be free from having to concern myself with thoughts of Islam altogether, but it is Islam which is at war with US and until this changes I will oppose any movements to increase Muslim populations in the US or giving Muslims any special preference over those of any other religion or non-religion.

And I will lose no sleep nor shed a tear over this murderous jihadist being killed by the FBI no matter what the circumstances of his death might be.

It kinda freaks me out to know we are here in the comfort of our living rooms or our mom's basements carrying on (mostly) polite communications with some of you who our service members might, concievably, some day have to shoot.

But, whatever...

 

Naw, it's not Islam the religion. It's a wide swathe of Muslim culture that's butting heads with America, and it's doing so in response to American (and by extension, Israeli) meddling in their space. We are fighting wars and arming violent extremists on their soil to further our own economic interests. We arm and support an arguably illegitimate nation which in turn uses the means we provide to it in order to commit various human rights abuses, albeit in response to aggression from certain groups and individuals.

No one is in the right here. I see escalating violence in response to US and British actions that have and still do cost lives in that part of the world.

9/11 happened for a reason, same as the WTC bombing that preceded by some years, same as all the other attacks that have taken place and been thwarted on our soil. The only winners are those profiting from war.

 

If it feels like your law enforcement agencies are corrupt, it is because they are.

If it feels like none of your politicians are acting in any of your best interests, it's because they're not.

If their stories and explanations start to sound far fetched and repetitive though, it is because they are lying and making it up.

If you feel that your nation must generate a lot of wealth, yet there is so much social depravation, it is because they are stealing from you.

If it feels like your armed forces are often deployed inexplicably and unwisely, it's because those putting them there give not a crap about them.

The ball is burst folks, and you won't save yourself if you think that helping them will get you a free pass, it won't, unless you are one of them, then no pass.

And no one on here is one of them, I would not think.

You are now entering the beginning of the beginning of a new phase.

You are not going to like it either, of that I assure you. But since many of your turned the other cheek, perhaps were even tricked into supporting it, perhaps you deserve all that you get. Your kids didn't though, and nor did their kids. Well done. Your short sightedness, conceit, obsession with the material, and entertainments, it has consigned your children, and your grandchildren to a World of much less freedoms than you were afforded.

How selfish.

 

Well, what a fine road that would be to go down.

Police state here we come, no need for a judge and jury.

 

You have one hell of an imagination. lol

 

True to type.

 

Cool story, bro. Got evidence it ever happened?

 

The guy was an outlaw. He got a quick death so he should be glad.

"We will find you ... You will face justice," said Obama.

 

Qutbism is the murderous theology behind the Jihadist mentality, Islam is but the religion. Other than that, your post was bang on!

"It kinda freaks me out to know we are here in the comfort of our living rooms or our mom's basements carrying on (mostly) polite communications with some of you who our service members might, concievably, some day have to shoot."

It is sort of freaky when you think of it. Or, when suddenly a member here is off the forums that possibly they are being interrogated for a few months for some complicity in a terrorist attack or hate crime against a minority. Makes you think.

 

Even though I lean heavily conservative on many issues, I also swing hard to the left on some issues such as censorship of art and written material etc. So even though some think I may be pro cop I am the reverse. Although I respect the job police are expected to do, this white etc boy is far less trusting of the police than 95% of my race. Anyway, I say the above out of respect for your avatar and you as I assumed you are or a were member of the outfit it represents. That said, and personally speaking I believe the FBI is FIBING. He may and I believe he almost certainly did shoot the guy. However the agent may have had reasons other than those stated to shoot the suspect, who knows and not too many US citizens care I suppose.

Reva

 

And I will lose no sleep nor shed a tear over this murderous jihadist being killed by the FBI no matter what the circumstances of his death might be.

I share much of your sentiments and do not especially disagree with anything in your reply except the sentence above, (in bold). Of course as an American I share your feelings of wanting revenge and like thoughts. As a Christian we must attempt to forgive etc our enemies, which for me is one of two near impossible things to do! So with that in mind and because of my general feelings of empathy, religion or no, for his family and his soul, and my distrust of authority AND because of our constitutional guarantee of ‘innocent until proven otherwise’* I would have liked his life to have been spared to face trial by jury. God will judge the other stuff.

reva

 

People who react this way should not be in a profession where they carry a weapon.

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This is a pretty disgusting attitude.

 

The various "jihadists" justifying the FBI execution of a man in his own house reveal how the Talmudic Noahide laws adopted by Congress in 1991 are infecting our nation.

The Noahide rules require only one un-proven witness to convict non-"Jews" of any crime.
Our President claims the right to assassinate anyone any time for any "reason".
As a nation we tolerated this behavior at Waco, Texas & Ruby Ridge.
And on a vastly greater scale, we carry out mass executions of people around the world.

Our Secretary of State says that killing 500,000 children by starvation is worth the price.

Our current regime is committed to arming and supplying Talmu-"Islamic" terrorist cutthroats to slaughter their way through Syria after destroying Libya and carrying their "Islamic" jihad to other nations in Africa.

So, now US officialdom can invade your house, harrass you for hours and then execute you.........and it's all OK.

And those who approve of this sort of behavior hate the America we were supposed to be and want to turn it into a Blackwater society where anyone can be eliminated by the system simply because some bullycrat is jealous, or afraid or having hallucinations.

 

Give that agent a medal, and a reload.

 

Judging by your posts I believe you should stop thinking so much, it's not good for the people who have to read fundamentalist bigotry that comes out .

 

Hey internet tuff-guy, got any evidence this guy was a jihadist or a murderer?

 

I was just about to ask. Is there any proof this kid was a Jihadist? Maybe some of these people think they are God and can tell. lol

 

Under current US administrative law, (Talmudic Noahide law) they only need one perjured witness to condemn any goyim to death.

 

You and I share the same sentiment. I am conservative about some things and liberal about others. I also have a distrust of our police and I feel bad for the goo cops that are judged based on the actions of the bad cops. There was a time when going into law enforcement was about public service, public safety and wanting to make a difference. In this day and time it is now about revenue generation an control, which is why I no longer trust our law enforcement institution. And like you stated, I dont care that he was shot. The only thing that concerns me is how rapidly our system of being fairly judged is eroding.

 

It is unnatural not to feel satisfaction and closure when you get even. Anyone who lacks that feeling is a pushover and a danger to the rest of society when he propagates the lie that revenge is evil. You should not be allowed to get any comfort in your escapism by elevating yourself above normal people with your illusions of moral superiority.

 

Iam sure he was a very polite young man that answered every and all questions asked of him.
Iam also sure he was acting in a completly non threatening manner when that mean old agent pumped a few rounds into him for fun.

 

Funny, there are people in Russia who claim that the Chechen terrorist murders in apartment buildings, a theater, and a grade school were orchestrated by Putin (The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin Yet the endings follow the typically Russian clumsy tactics of getting the incident over with as quickly as possible, regardless of the lives of the hostages or security forces. They also follow the millennia of bloodthirsty savagery and hatred of civilization that Tatars and Mongols are genetically programmed for. Notice that one of the Dogs from Dagestan was named after Tamerlane, who after Baghdad surrendered to his horde, ordered the population outside the walls, where he executed all 800,000 of them.