Do Democrats honestly think they OWN black people?

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  1. frenchy fuqua

    frenchy fuqua New Member

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    Those are your words, Iremon.

    Therein lies the problem.
     
  2. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are my words, and I appreciate you posting them, unlike Brewskier, who typically mischaracterizes what I wrote to try to make a point.

    What is the problem?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be a snap to make the case that Blacks were far better off under
    George Bush than Barack Obama.Blacks in recent memory have not been
    this Poor,Unemployed and lacking direction.I dunno ... A lot of it has
    to do with TV and hucksters like Jerry Springer { a Huge Obama fan and Liberal }
    and Maury.
     
  4. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of hogwash gobbledygook, what you wrote makes no sense at all. Are you trying to say that whites are discriminated against in favor of blacks? A black person may be chosen over a white because of discrimination in favor of the black; but whites are not passed over simply because they are white, as is the case of racist discrimination against blacks.

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    Blacks are disproportionately hurt by a recession. That certainly didn't start with the most recent one; that has been the case for a long time. Why that would be the case is a thought provoking question though.
     
  5. frenchy fuqua

    frenchy fuqua New Member

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    "AA discriminates in favor of one group because of their skin color"....your words

    What's the problem?

    Such a practice is unfair.

    There should be no discrimination concerning one's skin color.
     
  6. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is simply your opinion. I disagree with it, for reasons previously stated.

    There's no problem at all.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    AA discriminates against one group in favor of another. Your support in this policy equates to your support of discriminating against one group in favor of another. No amount of word play negates this fact.

    We see negative stereotypical posts against whites in this thread, also:


    As if the only reason whites perform better in school and in the workforce than blacks is because they are all privileged.

    And AA discriminates against one group of people based on race in favor of another group based on race. I would say discrimination against a group of people based on race is racism, and I have not heard a convincing argument from you yet on why discrimination against a group of people based on race is not racism.

    If the employer applies affirmative action and hires a black applicant simply based on his race, then the white applicant is being denied a job because of their race. Your argument does not make sense.

    You've explained no such thing. Discrimination against one group of people based on race is racism. I'll trust our honest members can agree with that fact.
     
  8. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    I see nothing that states white applicants are getting preferential acceptance over black applicants at Yale due to legacies or family donations. Are black applicants at Yale getting preferential treatment as well due to legacies or family donations?
     
  9. frenchy fuqua

    frenchy fuqua New Member

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    No problem, but:

    Frenchy: "There should be no discrimination concerning one's skin color.'

    Iriemon: "That is simply your opinion. I disagree with it"

    Therefore: you believe there should be discrimination concerning one's skin color"

    Discrimination on the basis of skin color is racism.

    Therefore: You're espousing racism.

    The very thing you're accusing others of doing.
     
  10. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, what percentage of those alumni do you figure are black?
     
  11. Brewskier

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    Thank you for admitting that you support racial discrimination against a group based on skin color.

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    I don't know, how many?
     
  12. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not at all. Racism is discriminating against someone because of negative prejudices or stereotypes based on their race.

    That is not what AA is doing at all. AA is discriminating against anyone, its discriminating in favor of a group.

    You're falling for the racists' bastardized definition of racism, which they use to demonize the very things that were designed to offset the effects of racism like AA (and to dilute the meaning of the word so they can use it inappropriately against others, as seen in this thread).

    Not all discrimination is racist. The NAACP is an organization designed to help promote the interests of black people. That's discrimination. But it's not racist because it isn't promoting negative stereotypes of whites (or at least that's not its purpose). There are laws that say you cannot fire someone because of their color. That's discrimination because it applies if the person being fired is of a different color. But that's not racist either. It discriminates to protect against racism.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I admitted no such thing.

    Thank you for admitting you that you continuously fabricate and mischaraterize my statements to promote the racist agenda.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Sure you did. "There's no problem at all" with affirmative action = "there's no problem at all" with discriminating against one group of people due to their race. Affirmative action discriminates against groups due to race, in favor of other groups due to their race. That's a fact that you can't escape with lawyer semantic games.
     
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    Another quote for my list. Thanks!
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I appreciate that a racist will call things that are designed to overcome racism "racist" for reasons I have stated, its not equal at all as I have explained, and you biased opinion doesn't give you the right to fabricate what I stated.

    I'll trust honest members can see that.
     
  17. Brewskier

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    While I appreciate that you will resort to ad-hom attacks in the absence of a cogent argument that is not easily shot down with facts, my phrasing of your position is completely accurate, in that you are on record as a supporter of a policy that discriminates against a group of people due to their race in favor of another. In order to "discriminate for" one group, another group has to be discriminated against. There is no escaping that fact, no matter how much lawyerly intellectual dishonesty and semantic games are employed.

    I'll trust honest members can see that.
     
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    That's a lie and has been for decades.
    What he actually said is that "We have lost the South for a generation" after he and Humphrey passed civil rights in the 60s.
    Sadly, he misjudged the inbred racism of southern whites, since the dems lost the South ever since.

    Nobody believes your clowinish attempts at racist propaganda except for the stormfront types.
    You should take your stupid comments there if you hope to be taken seriously.
    Here, your lies are just embarrassing you.
     
  19. Pennywise

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    He said it and was just echoing the thoughts of all democrats. And he was right. You ought to thank him for the guaranteed (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) vote.

    Love those democrats.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    We don't have to agree here.

    Even so, this isn't about me saying what you think I should/might. Still, I promise to respond to your sh__, as I see fit.
     
  21. RtWngaFraud

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    The mandate you seem to misunderstand. It was a mandate to say no to fat cat strip mining of the American people for profit.
     
  22. FixingLosers

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    No I thought Finland is a pretty left-lean country, so I assume it is full of political correct BS like Germany and Greek.
     
  23. FixingLosers

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    Nice try Chuck. I'm not a rightwinger, I'm an independent.


    Where did you get that? An african friend of mine back in high school went to John Hopkins for international studies. I never assume anyone of any particular skin color being inferior.
    Pretty much the reality. You use them, then after the election, you guys have to meet reps in the middle.... Oh well hardcore dems can understand that to 100%. You people treat minorities like toilet paper, play them in your hand when you are having constipation, discard them in the bin after using.
    Democrats vote for free stuff, not just blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, and ABOVE EVERYTHING, WHITIES.

    Hahaha, your political ideology has been dead for years. USSR was a failure. Period.
     
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    *Chuckle*

    Is this some kind of threat?
     
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    Riiiight. Funny, so am I. :D


    Well, since we're speaking entirely in stereotypes and generalities in this waste of a thread.

    Again, look at the representation of minorities in Congress. The OVERWHELMING majority of minorities in Congress are members of the Democratic Party.

    So Michelle Bachmann didn't receive a (*)(*)(*)(*)TON of federal farm subsidies?
    Wasn't it a Republican led Congress, in both houses, and a Republican President that tacked on added expenses to Medicare?

    Yes, yes... we get it... anyone who disagrees with your asinine ideology is a commie. Lol, same old tired broken record... wa wa wa blah blah blah.
     

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