Yet another Fox News Host being an Idiot!

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  1. hoytmonger

    hoytmonger New Member

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    Did I mention union goons reporting the news? Your reading comprehension isn't up to par.

    A communist is a statist... as are fascists, Marxists, Maoists and progressives of all types. Try to keep up.

    So, you haven't answered my question... communist or idiot... which one are you... I suspect the latter.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gotta admire your poltical acument - communists, marxists, maoists are the same as fascists, who knew? Certainly not Hitler or Mussolini, nor Hussein or Assad. Progressives are statists?

    You are just full of the most unique political insights and analyses. the book will be a best seller in the fantasy section and if you play your cards right, it might also make the comedy best seller list. Personally I'm eager to get my copy. I need a good door stop.
     
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    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    Excerpt from Jonsas thread >>>>>
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    FOX is the same as any entertainment that masquerades as a seious network or cable news program that pivots its ‘spin’ on viewer preferences. (‘read’ spin as ‘reports favorably’). Some might say they sell out to their sponsors, which would be true as well because sponsors target the news programs audience. For example you won’t find an ad for bushmaster AR 15’s on MSNBC or an ad for It’s just that FOX spins to the right by reporting conservative issues in an approving fashion. It’s nemesis i.e. MSNBC spins left the others like CNN fill the middle slot even tho' they still lean to loving the leftwing. The cure would be an unbiased kind of news. I would absolutely LOVE to see someone create an true unbiased NEUTRAL newscast with only the facts and NO SPONSORS, kind of like a consumers digest of news reporting. Maybe the NewRealNews network could even create a team of CG anchors, a max headroom with co anchors type thing….ok that’s enough I am going off topic~

    reva
     
  4. hoytmonger

    hoytmonger New Member

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    I was right, you're an idiot. You have no knowledge of history... just a mind full of misinformation.

    Hitler was a progressive. In FACT Hitler was inspired by the US progressive movement...

    http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php

    The current form of eugenics in the US is called Planned Parenthood, which was originally called the American Birth Control League and founded by Margaret Sanger... a socialist, eugenicist and racist.

    Progressivism is the most racist ideology known to politics. In every progressive there's a totalitarian screaming to get out. I suspect you're one of these.
     
  5. justoneman

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    She is not a News host, she has a talk radio show. Its not the same thing.
     
  6. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have always found that people who can't actually argue fact and misrepresent positions are very quick to call other idiots.

    But for the record, marxist and communisim and stalinism are political/economic ideologies that are FAR removed from fascism and nazism on one hand and progressivism on the another.


    Your sorry arse attempt to link eugenics to the "progressive movement" is laughable. do you know who financed the early movement in america? Were Rockefeller and Carnagie and Harriman progressives? REgardless, eugenics was a social program, not a political/economic program. And back in the day it was extremely popular - not that american in the teens and 20's was racist or anything.

    The racist overtones of genetic purity were naturally attractive to a racist maniac like hitler. But it had nothing to do with socialism or communism or any political persuasion.

    :roflol:
    I'd agree in the same way that the ku klux klan crazies' current form is the far right crazies.
    Birth control is eugenics - I'll have to remember that doozie.
    Only a misogynist or a bible thumper could possibly believe that gross an extortion of reality.

    Seems those racist progressives didn't know obama was half black. boy are they gonna be pisst when they find out.
    Funny, If the progressives are so totalitarian why don't they want to control a woman's womb and biological functions? That either smells a lot like totalitarianism or religious conceit. Which ever, both are most unattractive.

    You have certainly impressed me with your deep and profound understanding of idiocy.
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes she is a fox news host. She is one of the clowns on the Five.
    But, I grant you it was on her radio show she made those intelligent comments.

    But never fear, she has made a long list of idiotic statements on Fox as well as her radio show. Seems she really really doesn't like democrats - male or female.

    not that republicans take this as a credible source even if its direct quotes, but here's a bit of fun:
    http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/06/06/fox-host-andrea-tantaros-war-on-women/194376
     
  8. RevAnarchist

    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    I agree that name calling doesn&#8217;t work, its a bad tactic.

    Hmm' National Socialism makes the state 'God' in a manner of speaking. So does progressivism. And progressivism is more left than right on the political spectrum. The biggest difference in the progressive doctrine and Nazi (National Socialism) doctrine is that progressivism prefers gradual change to the system (the state) by government, not so for the Nazis! (at least not so practice because the Nazis forced rapid change).

    Ooops, criticizing a member for insulting then doing the same thing ain&#8217;t nice. Anyway, I also think there is at least some similarities between eugenics and the progressive political movement especially leftist and liberal progressivism (normally progressives are leftwing and liberal. However right wing progressive ideologies sure do exist). Since I am sure you know what I mean about the connection between Progressive liberals and eugenics I won&#8217;t expand on the details.

    That depends! I agree racism or eugenics will not be written down in university text books concerning theory in those subjects. However in PRACTICE the ideologies of communism and socialism gave a canvas or a way to employ raciest tactics and eugenics to achieve, or in the case of the Nazis, to attempt to achieve their goals.

    reva
     
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    I dare any right-wing nut job to try and smack me down. I voted for Obama twice and I like the job he is doing. Fox news followers refuse to accept the facts and want to believe the crap Fox news spoon feeds them. They have not been oppressed by the government as they claim, because if they were being oppressed they wouldn't be allowed to call for this kind of violence. This isn't the first time they have called for violence, at least this time they haven't advocated taking up arms.
     
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    I wouldn't call Hitler a true progressive. He was a monster. I don't understand why people like you will jump to the Hitler example when it comes to progressive or socialist ideologies. There are good examples of these forms of political ideologies as well, like Canada or Switzerland. Socialism and progressivism are designed to meet the needs of the people. Hitler wasn't exactly interested in meeting the needs of his Jewish population.
     
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    Everyone knows she was kidding except Liberals who don't know shixx from Shinola.
     
  13. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I assumed she was kidding. It doesnt' in any way detract from her sheer stupidity to not only demand it from her listeners once, but actually clarify the stupidity a little later.

    Stupid is stupid and she is stupid as her long list of outrageous crap will attest.
    A perfect rightwing talking air head. pretty face, decent legs and vacuous. Your type?
     
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    hoytmonger New Member

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    I stand by my previous statement. You have no knowledge of history and are likely a product of government "schools"... incapable of logical thought and ignorant of facts.

    Communism, which is Marxism due to the fact that Marx was a communist, fascism and progressivism are all the same... totalitarianism. If you understood the history of the fascist and nazi movements, it is quite similar to past and the current US progressive administration's policies. For example, Hitler had anti-smoking campaigns, healthy food campaigns, anti-gun policies, borrowed and spent money to 'stimulate' the German economy, worker programs to build the German national infrastructure (like the Autobahn), nationalized all the German labor unions into one, protectionist tariffs, farmer subsidies, gave preferential treatment to some companies and industries over others, environmental and animal rights policies, universal healthcare, indoctrination of children in schools, eugenics, endorsed anti-semitic Arab groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Hitler has much in common with PrezBO. Hitler didn't begin his genocide policies until he was in office for eight years.
     
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    ya mean like this
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    WOW who would have thought !!!!

    You sir will soon meet Political Science's lawyers , they are suing you for rape .

    The principle of fascism is everything to work for the benefit of the nation with the main providers of wealth being corporations .
    Fascist Italian government gave money and huge subsidies to corporations to cover the gap of foreign investment loss ( it was banned) , Mussolini crashed all labor unions , even fascist ones .

    Sovietia's state capitalism masked as communism is not even remotely close to textbook Marxism .
     
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    OK Lets first start with your definitions....Marxism...IS NOT by definition Communism regardless of what Karl Marx's political leanings. You can attempt to spin it that way all you want but it doesn't make a pig into a goat. Next you mention Progressives, Fascism and Totalitarianism. Again all three are completely different...Progressive:
    Adjective
    Happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
    Noun
    A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas

    Fascist:Noun
    1.An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
    2.(in general use) Extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

    Totalitarianism:dictatorship: a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.

    OK. Now that we have that point cleared up lets move on shall we? You said," If you understood the history of the fascist and nazi movements, it is quite similar to past and the current US progressive administration's policies". Now that you know what Fascism IS I would say the CONSERVATIVE members of Congress are much more Fascist by Definition. You want to compare the National Socialist Party of PRE-WWII Germany to American policies today? Ok lets go there shall we? Anti-Smoking Campaigns, Even the AMA will tell you it is better for your health...It has NOTHING to do with politics. Eating healthy...how is that bad? Anti-gun policies? Germany NOR America has any 'anti-gun' policies. Just regulations on what type of gun non Military people should be able to possess...namely Auto and semi-automatic weaponry and heavy artillery. Guns are still allowed and any you currently possess you can STILL KEEP. As far as the AUTOBAHN How is faster transportation of goods been a bad thing? There as here in the US it helped pull BOTH countries out of a major Depression and created hundreds of thousands of jobs. Labor Unions....so you think that Companies should be able to make their workers put in 90-100 hours a week with no insurance or benefits and a minimal pittance in wages? Labor Unions rid both nations of the Robber Barons. I doubt any but the Ultra Rich would say that is a bad thing. Protectionist Tariffs and Farm subsidies? Those were in place during WWI Not implemented by Hitler. Preferential Treatment to some Companies over others? Have you looked at the Republican parties list of 'Contributors' lately? Environmental rights? So when people in the US could look out side and watch their rivers and lakes burn for WEEKS due to pollution that was a good thing? Preserving Forests and replanting what we cut down is bad how? Universal Health Care....Well Since THAT was in place in Germany and MOST of Europe since the 1870's I'd say America is more than 130 years BEHIND and had NOTHING to do with Hitler, Mussolini or Karl Marx. So before you start ranting like Glen Beck or one of his ilk I would highly recommend you actually do some research for yourself and attempt to use an open mind before you become indoctrinated like one of the Streltsy.
     
  18. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can stand all day for all I care. To make such definitive statements from such a miniscule sample size is rather more indicative of your logic processess and ignorance.



    so a single commonality of leadership (sans progressivism which is wholly democratic) make them the same? Marxism is somewhat more than what Lenin and the gang claimed bolshevism to be. Infact, the communist manifesto outlines a society that didn't even remotely resemble the USSR's and china's. Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, were corrupt mutations of the philosophical ideal marx envisioned.

    read a book, it may help.


    amazing actually.so much distortion is so few words.

    Hitler was a reformed smoker who didn't like smoke, but the impetus for the nazi anti smoking campaign was to support their racial and reproductive views. Apparently female smokers became unattractive at an early age and smoking mothers transfered nicotine to their infants thru breast milk. I guess that is very similar to US government anti-smoking campaigns - can't have an army of prematurly aged unattractive females running around addicting infants to nicotine. Forget about the health risks, mortality and medicals one associates with today's concerns.

    Hitler was a vegetarian, so "healthy food" to build strong aryan citizens was also an important domestic policy to him. don't see anyone in America espousing the any of hitlers underlying racist motivations in eating healthy.

    Hitler's gun control policy was targetted at jews, while he made it easier for nazis to own them AND distribute them. are you getting a whiff of the underlying drift of his domestic policies?

    Hitler STIFFED everyone on the versailles reparation debt. Much like the tea party wanted to do with the US debt.

    Hitler built new german infrastructure including a little network of strategic roads called the autobahn. He created that road network because of the new technological advances in road transporation - (hint they were all military). Didn't Eisenhower do exactly the same thing only for economic reasons? slightly different motivation once again.

    I guess you are totally ignorant of the weimar republic's establishment of an extensive social welfare program, since many of its citizens were starving. Hitler merely continued these programs because he figured that not having starving citizens roaming the streets was a good thing for his political position - go figure. As for healthcare, once again you just don't get his underlying motivation, nor the fact that every other major industrial nation on earth has such a system.

    You think that the US is "endorsing" anti-semitic groups? Interesting take since you'd be hard pressed to find any jew haters and plain anti-zionists that would agree with you.

    before you start accusing others of ignorance and low intelligence I suggest you break all the mirrors in your abode. That way you won't have to see a hypocrite every time you pass by one.
     
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    Your definitions are BS... probably some progressive university textbook version. Fascism is corporatism, which is what the progressive movement has been using for the past hundred years.

    That makes the rest of your statement BS also. You're unable to comprehend reality.
     
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    I won't argue... you're not worth arguing with.

    I learned long ago not to argue with an idiot, they just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

    Good day.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your use of such a feeble attempt at saving face, right down to the pilfered paraphrased quotation demonstrates the calibre of both your intellect and your argument.

    Run along now and let the grown ups discuss grown up stuff.
     
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    My definitions came from the Webster's dictionary. That is typically agreed upon as the resource for defining words. If you wish to use your own definition of words then it's clear that you are void of reality.
     

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