Instead of suing cities for Christmas displays, atheists should do something useful

Instead of wasting time suing cities for Christmas displays and Ten Commandments monuments, atheists should do something useful.

For example, there are many people who are poor, hungry, naked, in prison, or in the hospital, who need help and human companionship.

Atheists should devote their time to helping people instead of waging a stupid war on Christians.

 

How many percent of atheists have sued a Christmas display?
How many percent of atheists have helped people in those conditions?

 

Another hate filled attack on atheists.

I present the counter point:

http://www.whas11.com/news/national/Christians-sue-Santa-Monica-for--179995381.html

(ABC NEWS) -- Christians seeking the right to display a nativity scene in the same Santa Monica, Calif., public park where they’ve held it for 60 years hope that a federal judge will come down on their side of a lawsuit.

The Santa Monica Nativity Scenes Committee filed suit after the beachfront city pulled the plug on holiday displays, which once gave the city the moniker

Apparently Christians are just as capable of Atheists about filing lawsuits....on the very same subjects

 

Yes, American atheists should be doing the things you mention. And in many socialist countries, in concert with the Catholic Church, true atheists do all those things and much more.

But "atheists" in the United States are not true atheists. Atheists in America have been exposed to religion, most of them have had an early Christian upbringing, and as a consequence, they are confused, conflicted in their beliefs and really don't know just what to belive. A lot of them are confused agnostics at best. True atheists are totally indifferent to religion -- they don't care what Christians do -- or do not do. Their attitude is believe whatever you want to believe. True atheists do humanitarian deeds because they have good hearts. Unlike Christians, they don't help the poor because they are afraid God is going to get them if they don't.

American atheists are nothing more than confused, troublemaking little punks who crave attention.

 

I agree.

A real atheist would be indifferent towards religion, and tolerant towards the beliefs of others.

But the atheists I see on this forum are hostile to religion, so it would seem they feel threatened by religion, and what that means to me is they aren't terribly sure its not true.

 

Otay-

Lets take all church funding and property and now we have the housing, funding and lots of companionship to go around.

I wouldn't wait until Christmas, take the assets now and feed the poor.

Heck, why do fools waste time in church every week, when they could devote their time to helping people instead of waging a stupid war on'.... anyone, even atheist.


Try the learning curve: Most atheist are evolved theist.




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People go to church, give money to the church, and a big portion of that goes to feeding the poor, clothing the naked, visiting those in prison, and yet you make the absurd argument that this is not enough.

And there is no Christian war against atheists.

If Christians were at war with atheists, you would know it.

 

The thing is, why can't we have our Christmas decorations, which include the Christ child in the manger?

Why do atheists have to ruin our holiday every year with their mean-spirited and nasty lawsuits?

And now we have the governor of Rhode Island refusing to call them Christmas trees.

If you don't want to celebrate the holiday that's fine, but why ruin it for the rest of us?

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Atheists just come off as mean and nasty people when they attack Christmas.

Do you care about all the hostility and hatred you stir up when you do this?

 

There is nothing more important than reminding people of the role of government and promoting religion isn't one. But see people who are smart and active can do more than one thing. So while I will petition government not to spend my tax dollars on promoting your faith and making people feel they can't get a fair trial I am also part of one group that feeds over 3000 children a day, another that feeds people who are at home recovering from medical situations and helped dozens of kids have winter coats each year.

There is no war on Christmas there are just a bunch of media whores who see a way to make those opposed to allowing all Americans have their say get all dyspeptic over nothing.

 

Well that is not the governments job. But we will let you have that, but only if every faith has the same access which of course Christians say no to all the time. It anyone stops you from doing that on your own property let me know.

How do they ruin your holiday? Do they come into your house and take down your tree>?

And that is a problem for you why? Oh yes you hate people who aren't exactly like you. Guess what if I were Gov. there would be no trees in my mansion. Leave those to the people's house.

Again how is it being ruined. Oh yeah, some stores say Happy Holidays and you have to organize a boycott.

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Show me one person who attacked Christmas.

How about you stop trying to disappear other people who don't celebrate and I will make sure no one steals the presents you buy. By the way, want to show your Christian values. Take the dollars you would spend on presents in December and donate it to a local charity that feeds people or you can just (*)(*)(*)(*) with your whining.

 

When you sue a city for having a manger on its property you make people think you are Ebeneezer Scrooge, who also hated Christmas.

 

Real Atheists?

What... are we breaking up into sects now?

My concerns with how other people express their religion start to manifest when expressing your religion means oppressing others.

I don't care what your religion is or how it affects you. I only start to care if your ignorance affects others.

I don't think I've ever seen a "Holier than thou" atheist before.

 

How does the state not supporting your faith ruin your holiday? Put up your displays on your own property. On church property. Party like it's 1999. No one cares.
Just don't spend our money on displays for your holiday.
You could have started this thread by asking why the state is spending money on religious displays instead of helping those people in need.
By the way, most of the money collected at churches goes to funding the church itself. Proportionally a very small amount goes toward charitable giving.

 

Don't forget the millions paid to attorneys to defend the pedophile preachers

then why black root / open such a thread?

Let me know when I can slap ted haggard, until he is jiggling on the floor

 

Instead of wasting time suing cities for Christmas displays and Ten Commandments monuments, Christians should do something useful.

For example, there are many people who are poor, hungry, naked, in prison, or in the hospital, who need help and human companionship.

Christians should devote their time to helping people instead of waging a stupid war on Atheists.

 

I wasn't in a manger and matt 16;20 fixes up the other confusion

More preachers screwing children under the guise of religion, than you have in Christmas lawsuits.

After you fix the pedophile problem and I'll talk to the people who want to file, deal?

that what a pro Israel, republican is like. He is a Bush backed baby

it's supposed to be holy and since the holy part is like swiss cheese, then why continue it?

There are more suicides during the Christmas holidays, than all year, right here in the US. Why is that?

Is it because Christmas has been bastardized?

because many folk are sick of the BS, lies and misleading of the religious wingnuts

To me, everyone should hate the liar.

You opened the thread and trying to make it seem as if the honest are the bad.


You're on the wrong side!

 

Atheists aren't attacking Christmas when they seek the removal of nativity scenes from government property. It just seems that way because the Christians who put the scene there are using Christmas as a shield when oppressing others. Stop hiding behind your symbols and we won't have to go through them to protect our rights.

 

Winter Solstice is cause for celebration by everyone.

Long before Christians hi-jacked the day and the tree, Pagans were decorating trees in celebration of the returning sun.

" Evergreen trees and other plants that stay green all year round have always carried a special meaning for the various peoples of the world. Long before the advent of Christianity, peoples of many ancient civilizations decorated their homes with pine, spruce, and fir trees. In many of these cultures, it was believed that evergreen boughs, hung over doors and windows, would fend off witches, ghosts, evil spirits, and diseases.

Ancient peoples who worshiped the sun as a god believed that winter came when the sun god became sick and weak. The celebration of the winter solstice marked the time when the sun god would begin to regain his strength and evergreens served as reminders of the coming spring when the land would be green again."
http://blogcritics.org/winter-solstice-evergreens-and-the-history/

 

opressing? Seriously? How is that opression?

 

no only in the small minded people who don't have enough value in their religion they feel the need to have government promote it. I am sorry your faith is so week.

 

indeed, it's pagan in nature. However, that doesn't mean it's a cause for celebration for everyone, as everyone, in fact the vast overwhelming majority, aren't germanic pagans. Also, these vocal atheists should, if they're consistent, still be opposed to it because it's religious in nature. Unless of course they are simply anti-christian, and I wouldn't be suprised if that's the case with many of them.

Really, you hear these people from the 'atheist movement' (one of the silliest movements I know of by the way) complaints about 'in god we trust', 'anno domini and before christ', and other references to christianity but how often do you hear them complaining about the names of the weeks, obviously dedicated to germanic and roman dieties, and lunar and solar worship (sun's day, moon's day, tyr's day, odin's day, thor's day, frigg's day, saturn's day)? I haven't heard a single one calling for the renaming of the days, but we have plenty of professors, and other oikophobes ready to give up our heritage not to offend others, have us use 'common era' rather than AD. "It shouldn't have religious associations" they say, while ignoring that our days are named after other gods and in use even more than AD and BC.

I seriously believe that if these people need to get consistent if they want to continue doing this, and when they realise that they'll also see that ridding society of religions means destroying our whole heritage, as religion is intertwined with everything. Or they could just admit to simply being anti christian.

 

Atheist is from greek. the prefix a- means 'not' and theism comes from theos, 'god'. Thus it means 'not-godist', non believer (in a god). That's all there is to it. Liking, indifference towards, or dislike of religion has nothing at all to do with it.

at all.

 

Because Americans are stupid.

Australia which is more 'Atheist' than America, one can still see religious Christmas decorations in shopping centres etc. No one gives a rat's arse!

Couple of years ago, we spent Christmas in Chiang Mai in northern Thailand. All the shopping centres, streets, malls etc had Christmas decorations up. Fantastic as Thailand is predominantly Buddhist. Many were of a religious nature. No one gave a rat's arse.

 

as long as the religious continue propagating and projecting their idiotic cult beliefs onto the rest of us, we atheists will continue the fight

 

Goddists should stop wasting money on displays and give money to the
poor. They should also stop trying to violate the constitution.
What is wrong with those people?