Instead of suing cities for Christmas displays, atheists should do something useful

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Blackrook, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    and examples of that would be? nativity scenes? No offense but that's about the most unjustified, pointless, and stupid fight I've ever known of if that's the case.
     
  2. taikoo

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    No, its not because "americans are stupid". some are, some are not.
    Its a constitutional issue.

    Stupid people may not understand that. The american goddists who keeping bringing this up, for example. The ones who insist on displays on public land.

    For atheist christmas, you should see Hong Kong. THAT is way way over the top.

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    Do you want your tax money used to promote scientology?
    If not, you understand the issue.
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the basis of hating gays, abortion, loving creationism, blind backing of Israel is all rooted in faith.
    you destroy the head of the snake (religion), you destroy the body.
     
  4. taikoo

    taikoo Banned

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    Are you a true christian? If so that would explain the bigoted stereotypes and the string of falsehoods you made up and then posted as truth, with no signs at all of conscience.
     
  5. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    No, I do not. But is america a scientological nation? No, it is not. It's a christian nation and thus its expected and okay that they make references here and there to their religion.
     
  6. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    you're not claiming it's impossible to be a homophobe pro choice pro israel person without religion are you?

    You're one of the 'destroy religion' people aren't you? *sigh*, I'd refer to my posts in the 'religion needs to go' thread in this sections.
     
  7. Blackrook

    Blackrook Banned

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    taikoo is ready to destroy all religion.

    And how will you accomplish that taikoo?

    How many people are you willing to arrest at 3 in the morning?

    How many people are you willing to torture?

    How many people are you willing to send to a concentration camp?

    Because that's what it takes to destroy religion.

    You have to give it your total commitment.
     
  8. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, but what I am saying is that if you are homophobic, pro-life, and love Israel there is good chance you are a right wing Christian
     
  9. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

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    I'm non religious (call me Atheist if you will). I don't give a sh!t if religious symbolism at Christmas or Easter is on display on public land, streets, shopping centres etc. Why are American non religious folk so concerned? I just don't understand this.
     
  10. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    And? Most christians aren't right wing christians, but here you are wanting religion to go based on the views of a tiny minority.
     
  11. lizarddust

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    You are just as much a radical as taikoo is.

    As an Atheist,, I don't condone arresting people at 3 am, torture, concentration camps and I don't want to destroy religions.
     
  12. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, all religion must be removed from the public arena. it's poison - the majority of moderates always give way to the "tiny minority" of zealots.

    hence, today's GOP and the extremists running the Muslim world.
     
  13. Blackrook

    Blackrook Banned

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    I am opposed to people who say they want to destroy religion. If they take over, I will go underground and resist. I guess that makes me a radical.
     
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    instead of spending money trying to push their religion via our government, how about spending some of that on the many people who are poor, hungry, naked, in prison, or in the hospital, who need help and human companionship.

    my guess is most people can do both, just my two cents

    Christian fanatics waste peoples time when they try to do things they know is wrong in the first place

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  15. taikoo

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    would you be equally sanguine about a display promoting scientology
    or militant islam, using public funds?
     
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    Oh....goood.... grief. hallucinate about someone or something else, if hallucinate you must. Leave me out of it. What is wrong with you?

    I sometimes wonder if there really is a Father of Lies, the Great Deceiver.
    So many of you nominal christians are so full of these hateful lies, you just make them up wholesale and spew them out.

    If there is any truth to this god / satan stuff, you need to really look at what you are and what you do.
     
  17. lizarddust

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    I don't recognise Scientology as a religion and I'm yet to see Scientology in my face.

    As for Islam, there are quite a few mosques in Australia, one of the biggest in the southern hemisphere is in Sydney. I have no problem with mosques and I don't have any problems with churches or Buddhist temples. The largest Buddhist temple in the southern hemisphere is only a few minutes from my house. Lovely spot to spend an afternoon.

    I believe Islam in Australia gets tax concessions, as Christianity does. I'm opposed to any religion gaining tax concessions.

    Militant Atheists are just as dangerous as militant Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus (pick your religion).
     
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    Won't happen.
     
  19. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Why must it be removed from the public arena? Jst because you don't like religion? I don't like leftists, can we ban them too?
     
  20. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you said "ban," i didn't. i said removed - which can be through the voting block, ostracizing those who attempt to use faith in the political and moral arena, and raising children to look to logic and reason instead of myth. and i feel we can do this - to paraphrase the great Christopher Hitchens, "Logic will always trump superstition."
     
  21. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    "logic will always trump superstition". I doubt that actually. I'm not one of those who believe that we can fundamentally change human nature, that we can create a new man. I feel we need to make do with what we have, faulty as we are, including susceptibility for superstition.
     
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    When the government has the appearance of favoring one religion over all others, that's oppressive.
     
  23. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    no it's not.

    Do you want them to pretend that america isn't a christian nation?
     
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    One of the stupidest posts I am seen thus far:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
     
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    A nation full of Christians is not the same as a Christian nation. Even if this were a supposedly Christian nation, that has nothing to do with the constitutionality of religious displays on public land. The religious have ample private land on which to display their holiday decorations. And yes, it's oppressive. Intentional or not, it's a demonstration by members of a majority that they have the power to subvert the establishment clause of the first amendment. That's a form of oppression.

    Personally, I don't care about nativity scenes on public lands. Especially if displays by other religions are allowed as well. I completely understand those who do have a problem with it,though.
     

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