Why Australia should scratch the F-35 and fly Sukhois?

I am pretty sure America hasn't tried to conquer territory and exact the riches of its satellites at any time in its history like you all did a few decades ago. Now all the NATO allies are richer and more powerful then Russia. Small countries too.

 

It's not important what you're pretty sure of.

Suffice to open up a world history for the last 100 years to see that the only thing America has done and by the way keep doing was and is conquering territories and extracting the riches of its satellites and other waek nations at any time in its history starting from slaughtering Indian tribes and annexing Texas and up to warmongering in the Middle East in order to pump out oil and gas which is known evrywhere the worl over.

Now all the NATO allies are richer and more powerful then Russia. Small countries too.

Call those countries in Europe that are richer than Russia except for shattering Germany?

I'd like to hear which NATO countries (USA apart we can delete each other very quickly) are more powerful than Russia today?

Go take an icecream.

Russia is the onle country that is capable to burn down USA very quickly and there is no another country to perform this task.

All nations fears USA and Russians even in such a shattered state don't care about USA.

You know it and this fact makes you mad!

 

Tribes for sure, but they had already been conquered by the people we bought the land from. Texas had a revolution for independence before they joined the union, and is by itself now richer then Russia. The Middle East sucks for sure, what can you do? Do you not also have Middle East raiding adventures? How many muslim countries did the Soviets occupy in the last 50 years. 8? 12? Would have to think about it for awhile for sure.

Now all the NATO allies are richer and more powerful then Russia. Small countries too.

Unifying Germany you mean? Germany, Italy, the UK, all are richer then old Russia. Japan too, the US made her defeated enemies stronger then her old friend and new nemesis.

Turkey, Canada, UK, Italy, Germany, France.

Available everywhere and I won't need any ration card, or know someone to get it. 157 flavors at the store, and that is just ice cream, we have Sorbet, Gelatto, Italian Ice etc...

And vice versa, so you will have to live in our shadow from here on out. Or you can become like us, and very prosperous, get some high living standards and all that. Either way is fine with me.

I know Russia is held back by her policies. Anyone who can make the SovTek amps has a real shot at consumer goods, if only they can get past state involvement in the economy. But for now, all you can build, sell and offer the world is destruction. Nothing useful, and that is why your country is far behind France even. Tiny little France.

1 United States 14,991,300
2 China 7,203,784
3 Japan 5,870,357
4 Germany 3,604,061
5 France 2,775,518
6 Brazil 2,476,651
7 United Kingdom 2,429,184
8 Italy 2,195,937
9 India 1,897,608
10 Russia 1,857,770
11 Canada 1,736,869

Per capita:

1 Luxembourg 88,318 2012
— Macau 87,765 2012
2 Qatar 86,507 2011
3 Norway 62,767 2012
4 Singapore 61,803 2012
5 Brunei 53,348 2012
6 Switzerland 52,063 2012
— Hong Kong 51,946 2012
7 United States 49,965 2012
8 Kuwait 49,001 2011
9 Australia 44,462 2012
10 Austria 43,324 2012
11 Netherlands 42,938 2012
12 Canada 42,693 2012
13 Ireland 42,662 2012
14 United Arab Emirates 42,384 2011
15 Sweden 42,217 2012
16 Denmark 41,388 2012
17 Germany 40,394 2012
18 Belgium 38,884 2012
19 Finland 38,230 2012
20 Iceland 37,533 2012
21 France 35,845 2012
22 United Kingdom 35,819 2012
23 Japan 35,204 2012
— European Union 33,014 2012
24 Italy 32,512 2012
25 Spain 32,129 2012
26 Bahamas, The 31,629 2012
27 New Zealand 31,499 2012
28 Korea, South 30,722 2012
29 Cyprus 30,597 2012
30 Equatorial Guinea 30,233 2012
31 Malta 29,013 2012
32 Israel 28,809 2011
33 Oman 27,015 2011
34 Seychelles 27,008 2012
35 Slovenia 26,801 2012
36 Trinidad and Tobago 26,647 2012
37 Czech Republic 26,426 2012
38 Portugal 25,305 2012
39 Slovakia 24,896 2012
40 Greece 24,667 2012
41 Saudi Arabia 24,571 2011
42 Bahrain 23,886 2010
43 Russia 23,549 2012

 

Earth to Rexody:

Ground attack planes rarely ever fight each other. They fight ground pounders.

 

Yeah, I remember talk like that in the 80's and the IDF wiped out the Syrian air force without losing a single F-15.

The most important factor is pilot skill and training. Second, is the avionics and missiles. The US had technological superiority and annihilated the large and powerful Iraqi army.

The gist of the article is that the top Russian air superiority fighter may have an advantage against the West's second tier multi-role strike fighter in a dogfight. Big deal. The Australians should get the F-35 with the most advanced avionics/weapons possible and train their pilots to a high degree of skill. Airborne early warning and control is also a key component to air superiority. The Aussies have the Boeing 737 AEW&C.

 

I think the next big thing will be stealthy drone aircraft that will easily be able to out dogfight human Mig pilots.

 

But let's temper that with the knowledge the IDF do not use US avionics packages

 

Tribes not tribes! What's the difference?
You came in to kill the indigenous people to build you f....g democraxy on the bones of people who had lived there for centiries,

Texas belonged with Mexica and don't say nothing about revolution there. Don't you want to say the US government has not had a finger in that pie?

Texas is rich. Sure you cannot compare it to Russia, but its rich.

In comparison to the rest of America. This is why the want to run away from the USA. They don't want to feed degenerat states and blood nad sweat thirdty suckers in White House.

As to Middles East which countries were occupied from 2013-50 years=1963 .
Name the country occupied.

I see you 're from Florida. Ask seminols about theri feelings as to your country.
If you left some indian alive over there!

 

Are you really so brainwashed to believe Turkey. France, Italy, Germany and so on can do something?

Never show me these foolish figures! Read less your biased sources.

 

This is why you keep paying to Russians for every single launching your rockets into space?

They say you bought a new pack of space engines from Russians. RD -180 .I see you cannot make them even after havin bought all docs on the topic as far as in 2006.

 

Until the Russians develope their own drones. Oh look, they have: http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/03/meet_russias_stealthy_skat_drone

 

As in what? Do anything, you mean quality of life for their citizens?

 

The IDF have developed their own avionics system and have modified their F-15's.

AboveAlpha

 

I am pretty sure I just said that

 

BIASED SOURCES!? LOL!

When the G-8 summit was held there was a special session held that was called for by Russia to help find ways to bring Russia's Economy into line with the other 7 Member States.

Russia was granted the 8th spot out of COURTESY....NOT BECAUSE THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY MERITED IT!

AboveAlpha

 

We are paying Russia because the United States is transitioning space orbital travel from NASA to Commercial Entities.

As far as advanced spaceflight capabilities the United States Air Force has been flying 5 to 6 month missions of the X37-B a smaller version of the Space Shuttle.

AboveAlpha

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Oops. Sorry.

AboveAlpha

 

Not a problem

 

It should be noted that a Joint CIA/NSA report upon the development of STEALTH by other countries such as China and Russia has determined that the sale of parts of the downed F-117 during the war in Kosovo to Russia and China as well as the sale of the lost Stealth Chopper used in the killing of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan to China has not had allowed any significant leap forward in the development of both the Chinese and Russian Stealth Aircraft and other systems.

This is due to the inability of either Russia or China to create the necessary manufacturing techniques necessary for the creation and development of stealth radar absorbing aircraft materials even though both counties have a template to go by.

As well...the United States Air Force has perfected defensive systems and techniques capable of tracking, targeting and destroying stealth aircraft.

It has been determined that by the time both Chinese and Russian Stealth Aircraft are in service in any numbers...if this will happen...the USAF will have already moved on to it's Robotic Autonomous Fighter Program of which one of these Robotic Fighters will be capable of targeting and destroying stealth aircraft by an integrated targeting and tracking system involving space based Orbital Magnetometers, IR-Tracking, Kinetic Atmosphere Disturbance Detection and other systems.

AboveAlpha

 

Rly? And I thought it was 4-th generation fighers with energetics and hull strength enough to fly near pilots' abilities to control the situation.
The thing is that most of medium-range air-to-air missiles use semi-active guidance. Fast changes of speed and direction may result into plane's radar loosing lock on target.

And good luck concentrationg on drones. Would be too much fun when entire airforce based on drones would be grounded solely with EW.
Ask Iran about it.

 

Nope, planes flying faster than pilots can handle has been an issue for a long time. In fact during the 70s and 80s the US and the USSR had different criteria. The US thought it could train pilots to keep from blacking out while the USSR would give a potential pilot a cold run test without any training to see how much they could take because they felt it was more of a genetic thing and something you were either born with or not.

Currently most AA missiles might have some active guidance from the plane but that is only because they are cheaper to produce than fire and forget missiles which do not require any extra input from the pilot or plane after launch.

Drones will be the future because they do not require nearly as much maintenance or downtime as a typical fighter jet. They can fly faster, and longer than human pilots and either be smaller and more stealthy or just as large and carry more payload. The only real question is concerns about hacking. Regarding extreme weather they have a drone that takes off and lands vertically in the works which can fly anytime. Also, as the software and hardware continue to develop it will get to the point where drones can take off in any weather short of a hurricane or tornado.

Regarding human pilots I feel we should still keep a healthy number of human pilots at all time for those "what if" scenarios. What if a big technical glitch is discovered that forces the AF to ground the drone. This is very relevant since only a handful of companies make the drones and there are at most a dozen different types. My scare is the hacking scenario which as already occurred and this is the one that is the most concerning. The hacking problem is the reason that I want to keep a large number of fully trained human pilots around and constantly training "just in case"

 

F-4 had a maximum g load at 7.6
Mig-21 had a maximum g load at 7.8
Pilot can shortly sustain up to 10 g without loosing consciousness.
Loss of consciousness was possible even on piston fighter, however it was 4-th generation jet fighters, which exceed pilots' abilities 100% of a time.

Nope. All modern short-range missiles have active guidance (counts as fire and forget).
But when it comes to medium-range missiles there is no proper seeker to install into the missile so it can detect and lock on enemy's plane at 100 km distance.

Drones, however, are not autonomous units. UAV is just a flying scrap metal without a link to control center. Potent enemy with high probability will manage to disrupt UAV connection to communication center or spatial orientation with EW or with good old shoting sattelits down. Only way to avoid it is equip aircraft with sort of AI. But we all have watched Terminator and Space Odessy, so it is a very dangerous way. Piloted aircraft remains active even without data link to HQ. So I can't see UAV completely replacing pilots in the airforce. Striking insurgents, maybe. Not being entire air fleet skeleton
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If you feel that you should keep pilots, you have to train them and also keep a number of proper aircraft in proper condition. This is the moment when cost drives in.

 

Nothing wrong with that. I hope that the military embraces drones but I am also a stickler for redundancy especially when it comes to the military. As I said all it takes is some super hacker or the enemy figures out how to interfere with the communications between the drone and HQ and your drone fleet is useless. Barring that though they can be extremely useful and cost effective while they are operating.

 

The USAF's XRAF...Experimental Robotic Autonomous Fighter Program takes the Hacking Issue into consideration as these unpiloted Robotic Fighters are capable of being set to Self Autonomous Mode either purposely or in the event communication is either lost or hacked.

They will be made in several variants including Air Supremacy, Fighter/Attack, Recon and Long Time on Station Seek and Destroy Attack Craft.

They will be much Stealthier than the F-22 and since there is no pilot and no life support or ejection seat they will carry a complex Electronic Warfare System, Large Numbers of the New High Velocity Heat Seeking, Radar Guided, Satellite and AWAC Guided Assistance Air to Air Missiles Carried in Large Numbers Internally.

As well the Air Supremacy variant will be capable of Mach 3 Plus Velocities and High Velocity Maneuverability previously impossible to do with a pilot. Not only will Stealth capabilities be greater but as well Low Temp. Engine Exhaust at high velocities.

AboveAlpha

 

Considering that government sites are still hacked to this day I am going to still feel more comfortable with at least some human pilots on standby.

 

You are wrong, the Drones will communicate with each other by the time Russia will sell those Sukhoi to other countries and actually deliver them, Drones are cheap and once automated they will dominate the battle field, your country simply shoots at the wrong direction, Jets will still have a role but you cant beat 50 war drones at the price of one Sukhoi and its Human pilot, the losses of such an army will be too great over time.