In the Womb: National Geographic Documentary

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Oh..NO. I am not saying that when a woman's life is at risk an abortion can't be done.

    An abortion should be done at ANY TIME during fetal development if the woman's life is at risk.

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    When a law exists, doctors seem to be hesitant, fearful to do the abortion. They don't want to be involved in a courtcase, so they take the path of least resistance often endangering women. As far as a law pacifying pro-lifers, I don't think that will work. For the most part, they think they are doing God's work, they won't stop until it's 100% pleasing to God, and they know with certainty what that is.
     
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    Still I would not want to allow an abortion to take place late term when both fetus and mothers health are not at issue.

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    Women will not choose to abort if healthy with a healthy fetus without some other extreme circumstance. If she is determined, it won't be a question of "allowing" it, she will find a way possibly endangering her own life. By using Canada as an example, we can see that the best way to handle the abortion question is with no legislation whatsoever. Yes, I know the majority wants regulation.
     
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    We know this is not true. Women abort for all different types of reasons, but the vast majority of the time it's simply because they don't want the baby.


    What if the pregnancy only poses a 1% chance risk to the woman? Is the woman so much more important than the life within her?
    How do we make sure "women's health" will not just be used as an excuse for women to get abortions when they don't need them?

    There do not seem to be any reliable statistics on what percentage of women who get abortions do so for health reasons, but the anecdotal evidence suggests the percentage is very very small. Even in the cases where it is done for health reasons, most of the time the woman doesn't absolutely need the abortion.
     
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    Isn't it interesting how they don't want women to see what they are aborting?

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/st...let-if-baby-comes-abortion-worker-tells-27-w/
     
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    Not in late-term! NOT! IN LATE TERM!



    What has happened in your life so that you distrust women so? Yes, the woman is SO MUCH more important than any fetus.

    Health reasons would account for virtually ALL late-term abortions.
     
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    You are so right, best not to look at the human life you are snuffing out, lest you might feel bad or something. :roll:
     
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    16-24 weeks is not considered "late term".

    Here's a 24 week fetus (which is not late term) inside the womb:

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    And here's a 24 week fetus outside the womb...

    [video=youtube;qwAtafWL6Nc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwAtafWL6Nc[/video]


    You were saying, Grannie ?
     
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    I was saying that women don't CHOOSE to abort at that stage. Abortions at that stage are virtually all for medical reasons. ALL!
     
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    Some women choose to abort in the second trimester, which happens somewhere around 24 weeks.
     
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    Only 1.5% of abortions happen at 21 weeks or after. Virtually none of them are from CHOICE, they are necessary.

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
     
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    Neither is 24 weeks, and yet the fetus has a 50% chance of long term survival if prematurely born at this point.
     
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    There are NO "choice" abortions happening at 24 weeks. Only a tiny few at 16 weeks.
     
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    We do not know that. That evidence I found strongly suggests most abortions performed between 19-24 weeks are elective.

    Maybe if they took detailed information from every woman who is getting an abortion, we could actually have some idea what is happening. But I doubt supporters of abortion would want that. Might just make the public less sympathetic to the pro-choice cause if they actually knew...
     
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    Women know what they are aborting. It isn't that they are afraid to see it, it's that they shouldn't be FORCED to see anything. They shouldn't be treated like second class citizens forced to jump through hoops for your entertainment.
     
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    Why shouldn't they be forced to see the fetus?
     
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    And why should they? It isn't medically necessarily and has more to do with appeasing the whims of a political faction. Whether a woman knows what she is aborting or not is irrelevant.
     
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    How can a woman make a medically informed decision if she does not know what she is aborting?
     
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    By choosing to be informed. It really isn't that difficult.
     
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    It will reduce the amounts of abortions which happen.
     

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