In the Womb: National Geographic Documentary

Mary Whitehouse has got nothing on you.

Why do you assume that porn is sex education, it isn't

and I'd rather they know how to "screw" while protecting thmselves and their partners, you would rather they bury their heads in the sand and pretend they can't get pregnant the first time.

err because abstinence is religiously motivated, abstinence is a religious promotion.

If as you say a ten year old can't understand the results of sex then why not educated them so they DO understand .. but no that would remove them from the churches clutches.

What you are afraid of, as most pro-lifers are, is that your control over the masses is ending, people no longer believe the ideal threat of hell and damnation, the masses are now educated and no longer afraid.

 

It does happen

http://www.cafemom.com/group/717/forums/read/204316/5th_grader_pregnant_at_my_school

 

I agree with one of Fugazi's statements. He really doesn't love abortions. Churchmouse.

Fugazi wants to reduce the amounts of abortions which happen. Why don't you agree with him? Churchmouse, do you want thousands of abortions happen, just to punish people for premarital sex? Or would you rather have more sex education, which may even reduce the instances of more abortions?

God doesn't wish that people suffer. It's a consequence of bad actions sometimes, but God doesn't wish it upon anybody. Churchmouse, you are against sex education, even if stops abortions and unwanted pregnancies, just because you want to show people the bad consequences to their actions. Pick and choose your priorities. I would rather have people have sex outside of marriage without killing their babies as a consequence of their actions, than to have people have sex outside of marriage and have abortions.

 

It's probably because all of those new growth hormones which people are putting into all of these new foods lately, people usually aren't biologically able to have children while they're that young.

 

Did you read Fugazi's link? One comment was about the youngest pregnancy she had observed in the police department, the girl was EIGHT years old. Sex education DOES need to start in elementary school with the lesson to not allow anyone to touch you in your private areas and to tell another trusted adult.

 

Sorry Sam but it has more to do with better nutrition, not growth hormones.

 

Do you have something against porn? LMAO Why I would think you would love it...am I wrong? Why would someone champion killing babies...and not like porn?

You liberals will make any excuse to promote your immoral values.

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You mean you would not want them to know how to have oral sex grannie? Wow. Oral sex isn't sex is it?

 

Okgrannie's statements aren't the worst statements which some pro choicers make on these forums.

Cady seriously believes that sperm is morally equivalent to a fetus, just because they're both life. How sick and absurd is this place, honestly?

 

Am shocked at your stance...really. You totally had me fooled. Most people want it reduced....BUT FUNGAZI STILL WANTS NO PROTECTION FOR THE UNBORN....WANTS IT LEGAL. Do you really pay attention to what these pro-aborts say? I mean really.

Here is Fungazis stance...from her posts.

Now analyze this.....Sam. No woman should be forced to do anything.....until he places restrictions on her. Killing is ok. Never talks about health reasons...or any other reasons...simply abortion should be legal until....the cut off point...which all pro-aborts differ on.

Then she shouted it again with this sweet response. Hmmmm I guess I am not the only one who shouts...LOL

More.....

21 weeks....24 weeks....gee what will it be tomorrow? All over the place on everything...but one thing is for sure....Fungazi wants abortions LEGAL...WHEN MOST WOMEN GET ABORTIONS. The majority of abortions that have happened since 73...some 56 million....Fungazi wanted legal..as most were done under viability.

Fungazi justifying abortion past viability.

Wow they must grow differently....how does nature do that? She is saying pain does not matter until after six months. Wow..that is way past viability.

And this is the cherry on the sundae.....

Killing children....is wrong....but abortion isn't wrong cause it doesn't kill children...but then there should be restrictions...at 24 weeks...no 21 weeks. LMAO

Where is the talk of how to reduce abortion?

This post by Fungazi...was the most vile I have read on here of any....and they say I am mean and crude and outrageous.

This shows the true position....

I would suggest you pay more attention Sam to peoples position...Fungazi wants abortion legal.

I'll end with this one from Fungazi...

You just don't comprehend Sam. Post something I said where I denied wanting sex education? Can't wait to see what you come up with....have fun looking.

 

She wants abortion legal SAM the whole nine months...GEt a grip for crying out loud.

Here is her positions.

"It doesn't matter if the zef is a full-fledged adult human being in miniature, it doesn't have the right to latch onto any other human being and suck its life sustenance from the other. SO....it doesn't matter WHAT the zef is, it is WHERE it is. Laws against abortion are the sole inconsistent laws in this matter."

“Nobody WANTS to abort fetuses at all, but sometimes it's necessary.There are a multitude of reasons why she might need one, but the fact is that very FEW of abortions occur in the ninth month and you can be sure there is a dire medical need for one that does occur. There are very few late-term abortions in Canada and they have NO LAW. Do you suppose that if there were no law against late term abortions, women would all try to wait until the last minute to abort, just because pregnancy is so much fun they want to prolong the joy?”

“Being that it's hers and she has it, no one or no thing can occupy it against her will”

SO SAM.....Grannie is a radical among radicals...she just stated she does not want any restriction...laws that deny a woman any abortion...for any reason.

Hers are some of the worst positions held here.

And CAdy is a radical but won't admit it...posts show it.

Cady said,

To CAdy...its not even human. LMAO

 

That is a misrepresentation of anything I have said, AKA a lie.

 

Sperm has no emotions, while fetuses do have some emotions.

 

Wow, more lies. That's what you are reduced to.

 

Where did you just pull that from? I have never said a sperm is equal to a fetus. Misrepresentation of a poster's words is an infraction, or didn't you know?

 

You had compared sperm being life to the fetus being life. How am I misrepresenting your words?

 

The claim was made that "alive, human, part of life cycle" was proof of being a human being. My point was, that isn't proof because those things also apply to a sperm (which we know is not a human being). I was very clear in my meaning, so it seems that you are distorting my words in an attempt to discredit me.

 

My intentions was not to discredit you in any way, shape, or form.

 

Pornography when viewed between two consenting adults (or more) is and never will be a problem, children should not be able to access it.

we have already had a discussion on morals and your premise of absolute morals was pretty much taken apart, so do you want to go there again.

Using Madonna & Brittany Spears of examples of porn only really goes to show your further lack of understanding of the porn issue.

Porn holds no interest to me, so yet again your assumption is, as usual wrong .. but I won't discriminate against an adult who does like porn unlike you. All you have proven here is that you have this obsession with being involved in other peoples lives and trying to tell them what they should and shouldn't do.

 

You don't even view fetuses as persons. Churchmouse was not lying about you.

 

No I don't view fetuses as persons. That is an extreme belief. A personhood ballot initiative was defeated in even the most pro-life state, Mississippi.

When you defend a lie, that makes you a liar, too.

 

Churchmouse is not a liar, first of all.

Second of all, how can a late-term fetus NOT be a person?

 

What do you call someone who lies?

It is what it is, a fetus inside of, attached to, and dependent on another for its sustenance. Granting personhood to fetuses would hurt ALL pregnant women, and the only reason to do so is control of women.

 

She doesn't lie.

Second of all, my main reason that I'm against abortions is not to control women. You yourself have just admitted that you aren't against granting personhood rights to the late term-fetuses for any specific reason other than to "not control women", which shows that you really don't have any evidence that late-term fetuses aren't persons, you're just using this as an excuse for your main goal.

 

I have never said, nor do I believe that fetuses are not human. So yes, that was a lie.

I admitted no such thing. Seriously, stop attributing beliefs and words to me that are not mine.

 

Yes, you have admitted that. You have never even stated exactly why late-term fetuses are not really persons, you had simply stated that legally classifying them as not persons could help to fit your own personal agendas.