Secession. Good for America

I guess you are ranting because you just want to forego the federal subsidies, stiff the nation on what you owe, and high tail it out of the Union because the American electorate (whom you inexplicably label "the left") has you in a tizzy. If malcontents threw a tantrum and ran away every time they lost a national election (been there, did that, 1861-1865) they would have erased the United States of America from the earth long ago, but patriots have held it together at enormous sacrifice on your behalf.

 

The problem we have today is that its the malcontents who are ruining our nation, and its the malcontents that have no desire or interest in holding our nation together. Its the Patriots who are seeking secession as a means to getting our sanity and nation back together again by leaving the malcontents...i.e. the leftists to fend for themselves.

 

And this is the point were we part.

Some people who are in a lousy marriage file for divorce. Others think you should tough it out.

To each their own.

 

Yes, that is the sort of irrational reversion that always distorts reality in vulnerable minds.

I'll again evoke the tale of dear old Mrs. Mulligan who proudly enthused amidst the throng watching the boys march off to war, "Will you look at that now? They're all out of step but my Johnny!"

The extremist crackpots chronically bellywhinging as of late would have gotten themselves in a similar tizzy over Eisenhower's federal highway system and NASA, Nixon's proposed comprehensive national health coverage, and Reagan's immigration reform. The TP-types have gone way off the track of normality, Democratic or Republican..

 

If the malcontents wish to wee wee up any states sufficiently to the point of their rejecting the United States, why don't they just do it?

Apparently, they'd rather just kvetch.

 

This is one of a few posts I've read on this forum that was actually good and had some value to it.

+Reputation for you sir.

 

Very well put!

 

Conservative ignoramuses always fail to see understand or see that local and state governments hold the real power and influence over their daily lives. This is one reason why New York and Mississippi are so different in terms of quality of life for their citizenry. The federal government in its entirety, cannot be haphazardly lumped into one bag with a label, as it's not simply a monolithic entity. The mission and goals of the US Navy, FBI, FAA, FDA, FCC, and that Maritime Administration--for example--are vastly different from one another.

This uneducated, deranged, almost pathological hatred of the federal government, permeates conservative thinking. Conservatives don't understand the dimensions of the federal government (many of them are downright delusional), yet they all parrot the same nonsensical garbage about it without actually putting an ounce of thought into what it is they are saying. Rick Perry infamously couldn't even give the name of a federal agency that he wanted to eliminate, yet this gaffe of his was a brilliant example of conservative brain-dead thought when it comes to the federal government. They hate and advocate the dismantling of something that they don't know, don't understand, and are utterly clueless about.

The problem here is understanding the meaning of words. You see, just because you're told that you cannot discriminate against black people or homosexuals, that doesn't constitute tyranny against you. Nor is is tyranny when you are forbidden to treat women as second class citizens, or told to follow traffic laws.

*yawn. What you are saying here is simply hyperbolic & emotionally driven nonsense. You are arguing revisionist history, something that conservatives are adept at, but reality doesn't have a left-wing bias. Try again.

You can whitewash it all you want, at the end of the day the pro-secession conservatives simply trying to justify their treasonous fantasies. Nothing quite says: "I HATE AMERICA" like arguing to break away from America.

You are the Jews in Nazi Germany? Are you kidding me?

How about this: Millions of innocent people who were murdered by the Nazis in WWII, did not die so that they could be selfishly used as pawns by you to make cheap and ridiculous political points. It's actually downright revolting that you would exploit the systematic extermination of human beings--genocide--in a despicable attempt to make some kind of warped equivalency argument with conservatives.

Shame on you.

And if a person honestly thinks that a government raising the marginal tax rates by 4% or that the implementation of the Affordable Care Act (for example) is the somehow the same thing as a government that exterminates human beings in ovens and gas chambers, then that person is moron on an incomprehensible level.

 

Let me just stop you right there. According to your bio, you haven't been a soldier for 25 years. Yet you just can't stop clinging to that Sergeant title, can you? Must make you feel important.

The word for you is not "grown-up", it's "geriatric". If the (*)(*)(*)(*) went down, you would be watching it on TV from your nursing home. Probably while yelling "damn kids" at the 30 and 40 year olds who actually ARE the grown-ups. And don't think that I've missed that your threat of a "bullet in the back" means that you would murder in the most cowardly way possible: shooting a man in the back. You shouldn't disgrace the military with that kind of talk.

Oh ffs. You're going to use this as another opportunity to plug the RaHoWa? Give it up; no one is buying what you're selling. Your little attempt at reverse psychology has failed. Your MO is clear: make insane Stalin-like statements, then throw in "and you know who really hates my crazy bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Supporters of the RaHoWa!", in an attempt to make them seem like the reasonable position in comparison. Just quit. No one is interested in your race war.

 

don't forget to send them the bill for their portion of the debt...

 

As soon as it is weighted to reflect the votes of their representatives as to growing that debt...If all the decisions to grow it came from the left, then the left is responsible, not the folk who fought the blight.

 

be careful what you wish for, most of the debt was created by republicans, and cleaning up their mess afterwards

trickle down... yeah right, like that worked - not to mention Iraq

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I think BoBo and his merry band of wild spenders have spent per year far more than anyone else ever has but I'll still go with weighting the debt to those who voted for the spending...

 

So if you are SO certain...why not let it happen? If there is no doubt in your mind that Republican governed states would fail, why fight letting it happen? There is absolutely nothing being done now. The ONLY solution anyone seems to be able to present is..."just do things MY way"...which obviously is no solution at all....if/when one side fails, there will be no more argument about who's way works....so why not let it be settled.

 

would not be my choice, but sure not all of any state would want to go it alone, you would have to force some out... kick them off their land so to speak

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They fight it because the realize, despite what they say, that their blue country would be a mecca for America's moochers while the nations real taxpayers would flee to Red.....The blue model of looting red voters for blue votes would crash and burn