Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

So YOU are a business owner with more than 50 employees?

Sure thing.

 

Surrrrre. The Republicans were totally HELPLESS!

That is why the amendment is somehow named after a REPUBLICAN named Grassley!

 

Your assertion, you tell me.

 

I recall that you opposed those shovel ready full time jobs, just as you routinely oppose investing in American infrastructure.

 

If you read my post you will see I do give Clinton his portion of the blame, but the fact is that the Republicans had been pushing for NAFTA for years and until the Clintonistas took control of the Party, the Democrats opposed NAFTA and Deregulation for years. To claim that it was the progressives who pushed NAFTA and deregulation is factually wrong.

 

Robots are on the way to removing humans on the assembly line.

 

WTF?? NAFTA and China was the result of a bipartisan effort. NAFTA was H.Bush's baby, Clinton was just signed the seal on the garbage legislation. Nixon went to China so Jimmy Carter could make them corporate partners in the slave labor trade.

Banking/savings/loans scams are a bipartisan effort. Since Reagan the same usual suspects have been deregulating and allowing the banking system to become the largest casino, second only to the original top dog the stock market. The housing bubble, bipartisan effort. When republicans were in charge they got most of the money from the Fanny/Freddie scam, and republicans ran the department responsible not Barney Frank, not that he wasn't involved, they all were involved. Obama phones corporate welfare therefore bipartisan. Food stamps and any and all welfare programs, bipartisan efforts. Illegal alien invasion, you guessed it, bipartisan effort.

Wake the (*)(*)(*)(*) up and stop buying the two party partisan BULL (*)(*)(*)(*) train.

 

Nice avoidance of the topic.

Its clear to see that you aren't interested in actually discussing the implications of Obamacare.

Lets run it down:

1. Facts are provided that more employers are hiring part-time employees
2. The correlation between mandated legislation for full-time employees is acknowledged
3. You deny any correlation
4. It is stated that actual decisions have personally been made that agree with the correlation
5. You claim that the decisions are invalid because they are not subject to the law (are you then agreeing that the implications of the law correlate to the original facts?)


Sure seems that way.

Quit dancing around the facts.

The agenda you support has consequences that are undesirable. As is usual, liberals operate on what platitudes that "feel good", and turn a blind eye to the reality of the implications of those decisions. When called... they play games.

Time to grow up and be responsible for the agenda you support.

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And then assign blame to somebody else for failures of that agenda.

My lord. You are a piece of work.

 

I would suggest that some business owners and corporate officers in fact have an agenda and would gasp lie about what effects "Obamacare" has had or will have on their business.

I in noway take their words as facts.

Just for the record.

 

So the flip side is pay nobody nothing, then everything will be free? Deflation!

 

what he's saying is so much bull anyway.

In the other thread, they are arguing that only 4.7% of workers earn minimum wage, but now they want to argue that raising the minimum wage would cause massive inflation. LOL

 

If you've ever had a lower income job, then you know for a fact Obamacare is going screw those it's intended to help. Places like Walmart already watch overtime like hawks. If someone wants 60 hrs a week worth of pay, they HAVE to have 2 jobs, which takes even more time out of their life, as you have to get ready when going from job A to job B. All you have done is now made overtime irrelevant, as the new standard will be 28 hrs a week. And on top of that, the middle class who make up most owners in service, now can only keep their good help in their building for so long a week. It truly amazes me that working poor have 2 choices, the owners who lump them in as all them same in ethic and skill, and the big state left who consider them all the same as to ethic and skill. Those who want to keep them uncomfortable slaves, and those who want to bring comfort to their servitude. That person who is a hard worker at the bottom, but not cut out for academia, has no choice but to be as lazy as the retards, because all powers in their life dictate not only will they be treated the same in rewards, but punished with more work if the said powers figure out they actually stand out, for you know, 3% higher wage. A joke. America was founded on getting what you put in. Now the "American Dream" is either know somebody or be exceptional at something rare. Once again, a joke.

 

So the hiring trend facts are mis-understood...

and the reasons given by business for hiring more part time people is a lie?

 

Oh let's be clear. I'm not defending Obamacare, I'm merely stating that I have no doubt that some people with an agenda are lying about the affects it has had or will have on their company.

I've no doubt that some will be forced to let people go and or close their doors. But I've also no doubt that most will have to keep the same level of employment to continue in business and will choose to do because they like their profit.

 

What will happen, from a working poor person's perspective: Mom and pops will be the job you want, as you can get 40 because they are under the required number of employees to be regulated. The rest will only get under 28. All the accounting as to Obamacare is based upon this not happening, which simply means another vehicle has been created to subsidize the workforce of large corporations, as 30 million more people as of 2014 will qualify for medicaid. Now when those same working poor people go to collect checks from their 2-3 jobs, they'll notice medicaid that was taken out went from $40 to $140. The young, who probably won't need to see a doctor for the 1st 30 years of their adult life, will be raped financially, when there is already very little for them to do anything with left after bills. I really don't mind because I truly believe we need a 2nd revolution, a reworking of the system from the ground up and a rewritten constitution with new safeguards against all the ways the powers that be have circumvented the old one. When the working poor see what happens to their checks by 2015, this might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. This will make them realize the government is their enemy. Sure working poor seniors will probably be more happy, but one doesn't fight a war with senior citizens.

 

Tell it to the present administration. First and foremost, Obamacare has almost immediately created more and more part time workers. As has his penchant for punishing business has done also. Have the guts to call out Obama for this sad, lack-luster economy.

 

LOL Obama has had ZERO effect on the minimum wage either way. Nor are businesses refusing to pay more because of "ObamaCare"

I bet you see the Obama bogeyman in every thread LOL

 

You need to get educated or own a business before you chirp.

 

Love the way you cheer for losing more jobs. Go for it.

First they came for the burger flippers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a burger flipper.

Then they came for the assembly line workers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an assembly line worker.

Then they came for all unskilled workers,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an unskilled worker.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

I own a business. Hey all 10 of my employees have health, vision, dental, and life insurance to. Why? Because they are good solid employees who take care of my customers, so I in turn take care of their financial needs .

It's a two way street you see. I wouldn't tolerate the customer service WM or McD tolerates , nor would I pay what they pay.

ObamaCare doesn't affect my bottom line one bit, because I'm not a greedy (*)(*)(*)(*), and I've already got an insurance plan for my employees.

 

Nice avoidance of the topic. It is clear to see that you aren't interested in talking about "Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages"

 

What I love about their cries of "oh McD would automate if wages went up " argument is that they act like McD won't automate if wages stay the same if technology allows it. LOL Of course they will. Wages could be $5 a day and the day a machine is invented that can cook, assemble and sell a #4 meal, McD will install it in their stores.

 

You all realize the insurance industry had a large stake in concocting this program. Right?

 

Good for you then. Other businesses will cut employees based on the costs of Obamacare. And you may do so also when you see the premiums.

 

They wrote the legislation in entirety. Any and all I know, who were excited, I have prepared for the fact they are about to be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. I'm afraid I can't talk to everyone in the nation, though. A lot of frustration and anger is about to happen.