Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

Only depending on dependents.

The rest is a good post.

 

Because our entire nation is a Ponzi Scheme. Now I have a question for you:

What are the working poor supposed to do when their only 2 options for representation are people who have ZERO clue what it is like or how to help? When the "left" pass laws that inevitably still work in favor of big business and hurt us even more? Sure, we can figure out a way to get higher up the food chain, and most with a brain do try, but what of the rest? My life is good these days, but I won't forget where I came from, and should the masses ever grow the nerve, I'll drop my future like a hot potato and rock and roll. And I will advocate hanging "both sides" of the aisle.

 

See according to some around here you're a loser for not moving to where a high paying job is magically waiting for you.

 

Not really interested in your libertarian slanted question but arguing that the minimum wage should be increased is not a right/left issue. It is stating the facts and both parties have raised the minimum wage.

I also have never accepted your "Not Me!" comments.

 

Correction.

Raising the minimum wage should NOT be a left/right issue. Unfortunately a group of retards has hijacked the discussion on both sides and turned it into one. On one side we have retards arguing for $15-$20 an hour and the other side we have retards screaming that the min wage is high enough or even that the law should be removed altogether to "help the poor"

God, I'm sick of retarded morons.

 

The "minimum wage" law affects very little of the working poor. As inflation forever rises, the working poor forever rise. 20 years from now those making 30 an hour will be working poor, and the minimum wage will be what, 12.25? It is a band aid, nothing more, and not even a good one. There is only one cure for low wages, and that is increased demand for labor.

And for the record, libertarians are for free trade, open borders, and on many issues, my enemies as a nationalist, maybe even more so than neoliberals. I solute you for engaging in politics, but you have a long way to go. Start understanding politics in a global sense, to learn what is going on in a national sense.

 

So you don't believe that 40.28% of wage earners make less than $20,000 or that raising the minimum wages affects other people like families, increase consumer demand and affects middle class wages?

As inflation forever rises, the working poor forever rise. 20 years from now those making 30 an hour will be working poor, and the minimum wage will be what, 12.25?[/QUOTE]

So you know the future while ignoring the past. Also, yes, there will always be a bottom 20% when you break income and wealth in 20% brackets. Are you against the working poor living better?

Really, the only answer, as the past has shown, is better wealth distribution. That creates the demand for more labor.

And for the record, libertarians are for free trade, open borders, and on many issues[/QUOTE]

Then stop blaming everyone else for the ills of today. I am for "Fair Trade" because I am not interested in only international businesses make more money on the back of American workers. I am against open borders that will lower our workers to the level of other countries.

A true libertarian slap down. I understand global politics and understand how that can affect our nations. See, I want more people to rise to our level. I am not interested in lowering our standard of living.

I have no problem with you working to change the world to your opinions. I always have problem with libertarians always claiming that they know more than everyone else.

 

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If you cared about American workers, you would argue for increased labor demand. You don't, so you don't. You aren't arguing for workers, you aren't arguing for owners. Why are you even posting?

 

Our nation is spoon fed answers to questions like they are spoon fed candidates for office. Everyone thinks supply side capitalism or state funded demand side are our only 2 options. There is such thing as demand side capitalism, and it is called nationalist capitalism. I intend to get it into at least a couple of brains before I leave this world. Haha

 

For the record, when you are losing an argument, you take pot shots at the messenger.

I have. Did you miss that?

Did you add anything to your argument or just attack me from my arguments?

 

When owners have to fight for workers and retain them, wages go up. Minimum wage is a joke. It is the concoction of academics who have never had a lower wage job. When 3 businesses are fighting for the same person, that person has weight at the table. Anything less does nothing, and fighting for anything less a worker's advocate does not make.

 

Why do you feel the need to put words into people's mouths? I voted for the economist. Who did you vote for? Might want to take it up with him. Tell him, I said 'hello'.

 

Yeah, you got the textbook learning down pat except about the minimum wage. It has helped the botton to live better and the middle class to live better. Look at history.

When I worked in management, we gave inflation increases along with performance increases. That was how it was in the 60s and 70s. The middle class DID do better. In the last 30 years, that trend has reverse and most of the wealth is going to the top. Minimum wage increase has done a better job distributing wealth when done on a timely basis.

You can say that you disagree with this method but don't try to say people wanting the minimum wage increase are not working to help workers.

 

Would a raise in minimum wage reduce the number earning less than $20,000? Why has the middle class shrunk?

 

You can mock me all you want. Businesses will get rid of HC insurance for their workers to save a buck.

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Why would they need an excuse? If you own a business you can put people on PT no matter what. But I understand you need to give Obama cover for his job killing plan.

 

Out of curiosity is there ever a point where leftists will blame a person just for being lazy?

Why do most Hispanics make zero effort to learn the language of the country properly?

Why do so many on welfare not go out and try to gain new skills to make them more employable?

I will admit, there are many who need welfare to survive and I would even say there are some that should actually get it for life.

The fact that lefties refuse to admit that a HUGE portion of recipients are just lazy is so frustrating.

 

More the reason to go to Medicare for All. Businesses would be taxed for their employees' health care instead of taxpayers. Why are you rooting for businesses to stop paying for health care? Would you cheer when employees and taxpayers have to pay for it?

They don't need an excuse. So why are they and you using Obama care as an excuse? Do you hate Obama so much that you cheer businesses ducking their expenses so that you and every other taxpayer can pay for them?

 

Out of curiosity, can you name that leftist who has never blame a person for being lazy?

Why did my Italian grandfather never learned English properly?

Money.

The fact that you have no proof but still state it as gospel is soooooo frustrating.

 

Obama has fundamentally transformed America, into a nation of burger flippers.

70% of Obamajobs are PART TIME.

Aren't you happy with it?

 

Why are you so happy to spread lies? Obama has not caused the part time jobs and 70% are not part time jobs.

Can't you try to discuss without caps and with real information

 

WOW, you need to go to school to learn how to read or comprehend.
Where did you get I am not covered by insurance?

 

What a hilarious assertion!

The transformation of America into a nation of 'burger flippers" occurred under REPUBLICANS!

What was their "solution"?

Bush tried to reclassify 'burger flipping" as MANUFACTURING!

Nearly THREE MILLIONS manufacturing jobs were lost in the first THREE years of the Bush administration after being handed a historical record economy by Clinton!!

So much for Republican economics!

http://www.wkyc.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=23569

 

Cheaper labor: 77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions

Hilarious, NO! Sad product of Obamanomics, YES! Why do you think that is Dave? We knew companies would react this way to Obama Care.

 

The bolded is just so much bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I'm sure some don't care about learning English, but the majority actually DO speak English, at least rudimentary English. Oh they may not admit it to you, but they understand just fine.

 

Your premium increase said it. You did not have enough coverage and selfishly only cared about yourself. We with proper coverage also pay for those who can not pay for their health care costs. You would have been in that category with one serious disease or serious accident. I am glad that you now have to share the same costs as the rest of us.