Fast-food workers strike nationwide in protest against wages

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would anyone buy a hamburger either way that cost $20 or $5.00 in the first place anyway; it has been stated in here that by increasing the wages to $15 the average cost of a regular hamburger would only increase by .34 cents average.

    $20 or $5 cheap fast good burgers are not worth buying in the first place. A cheap fast food burger that costs $1.50 could be considered worth it.

    If enough people refuse to order/consume a meal prepared by a machine, the company will be forced to maintain a staff of humans or close doors.

    Thats all great until the computers crash and then your out of business until they are restored.

    New technology creates new jobs....usually at much higher rates then what they pay for someone to man the register and cook burgers/fries. Someone has to install the equipment, maintain it and down load information into it; and when it malfunctions, someone has to be there to explain/refund monies to the consumers. Computers are only as infallible as the humans who program them. Would you go to a store where the computers constantly mess up an order or not give you your due change?

    It is the responsiblility of the company to get there point across during negotiations and to open up the books to be viewed by actuary to cement their point. If they can prove their point, then the unions will most likely cooperate with them on wages.
     
  2. JoeSixpack

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    I just discussing the reality of the situation. If asking a fair wage is irrational then we are completely off track as a nation and destined to fail.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

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    That's OK there are millions more ready to cross the border and take their places.
     
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    i just want this question answered..........

    how in the hell can someone even fathom the idea of paying someone $15/hr to cook fries or take food orders?

    in that case im gonna start charging $300 to do an oil change, because that is just as stupid as paying a fast food worker $15/hr.
     
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    I am FOR raising the minimum wage Joe, I am just saying to set it at a reasonable rate. $15 is way too high, and stupid to boot.

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    No it isn't . By law state minimums can NOT be lower than the federal minimum.
     
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    Yeah, I gotta say I love that logic as well.

    30 years there was no such thing as minimum wage job. EVERY blue collar job pretty much started out at the minimum wage, but quickly moved people up so that really only the new hires were making minimum wage. So yes, people started out at $1.25 an hour but raises came quickly and often. You know what my friend's policy is at his McDonalds? No more than $.50 in raises every two years and that caps out at $9.50 an hour , so in four years you are at your maximum pay rate, and most places that start at minimum wage are the same.

    these people just aren't taking care of their employees the way employers used to. That is a fact.

    How many employees did WM have who were collecting welfare when Sam was alive? I doubt many.
     
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    No kidding. If I could just click on a touch screen at the drive through menu and get EXACTLY what I want, then swipe my card, and pick up my food from a box without a miserable adult serving me at the window, so be it.

    Unless of course its set up like Chikfila where people appear HAPPY to see you and help you, seem like responsible well dressed teens and young adults and SOUND the part. I never mind eating there, because its ALWAYS a pleasure. Managers come up and ask how you're doing. People bring the food to your table if your kids are being particularly irritable at the moment. They also pay everyone more as well. Wonder why? Hmm, maybe because they expect a lot more, so they think its worth paying more as well. The cost is basically is no different than any other fast food chicken.

    At Mcdonalds, I just want my food how I order it, cross my fingers, and mostly want to get out of there ASAP.
     
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    If there were NO minimum wage guidelines from any government, it's unclear to me if the lower end wages would increase or decrease? It will depend on the geographic and economic areas along with supply and demand of labor. Are there lots of American workers willing to work for $5/hour? If there are, how does it make any sense to create government policy denying them from employment? Conversely, in some areas if workers refuse to work for anything less than $12/hour, then this will become the informal minimum wage. Where I live the farm workers union has the current hourly pay scale between $8 and $16/hour depending on required skills/knowledge. This does not prevent some farmers paying $7/hour or $17/hour but is in place solely as a guideline. When there are more workers than work, they take less pay and when there is more work than workers the hourly pay increases...
     
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    exactly
     
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    min wage is just the min wage you can pay, doesn't mean you can't pay more
     
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    http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/

    Look at the above link to see the starting salaries of public education teachers in the USA. Some of them don't even earn $15/hour while many others earn close to $15/hour and some are higher. How is it possible in your mind that an uneducated, unskilled fast-food worker should earn the same as a teacher who is required to have an under-graduate degree and teaching certification?

    You can't just pick and choose how to pay people which in this case is based 100% on politics...
     
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    anybody can teach, but flipping burgers is hard, apparently.... lol
     
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    The $2.00/hour minimum wage covers workers not covered by the federal minimum wage guidelines...
     
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    But they didn't. When I worked as a kid the minimum wage jobs were for entry level positions like you said but janitors, fountain boys, clerks, gas station attendants, but manufacturing and construction started you off at 3-4 times what the minimum was, today those jobs especially are minimum wage positions. You can make as much as a video store clerk as a brick layers helper. Who do you think works harder and deserves more for the work they do?

    But things are definitely different. The Macky D's where I grew up (didn't have one then) have 7-8 people today working the counter and I don't know how many people in the back. The A&W I worked at in the ONLY minimum wage position I ever worked for did just as much business in those days and we had two cooks, a fountain boy/clerk, and 2 carhops. Macky D's are some of the most mismanaged, over manned, wasteful places I've ever seen operating a business. Mainly because they hire people who will work for nothing and have no incentive to be a better employee. The companies themselves create the type of workers they have to deal with.
     
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    You are correct but by having a published minimum wage this creates a stigma...if there was no dollar amount business and workers would work it out...

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    Gotta love politics...
     
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    I never said they should be making $15 an hour. I said they should be making wages comparable to the cost of living in the communities they live in. Big difference.

    I also understand why they are attempting to get higher wages. It's either that or mooch off the government, or work more hours than exists in week.
     
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    you aren't trying to attract mensa candidates to McDonalds. Press a button, ding fries are done.... it's not rocket science when any 16 y.o. can do it as well as a brain surgeon can.
     
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    Can every one of these liberal slobs......with extreme prejudice. Once unemployed.....surely liberal slobbery nationwide can unite and create their own fast food chain.....where they can pay their employees a living large wage of $50.00/hr.
     
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    When will these advocates for a higher minimum wage start their own franchises and pay the burger flippers what they advocate as a 'living wage'?

    Put your money where your mouth is.
     
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    well, as long as we're artificially raising wages.... why not just cut to the chase and pay everyone $250,000 a year. And pay $245,000 to those who refuse to work. That'll fix everything.
     
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    Why would a machine drop animal feces? lol.... Anyways, no (oil), no (ball bearings) , no ( metal slivers), and humans add more nasty (*)(*)(*)(*) than a machine ever could.
     
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    Hey, if you don't mind eating machine parts mixed with oil, its all good. :)
     
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