Sarah Palin On Syria: "Let Allah Sort It Out"

Can we get back to Sarah Palin....this thread has taken an unfunny turn.

But is is fun seeing Republicans split on this

 

WarMonger....

 

I am sorry, but I don't think she is actually intelligent enough to write something that eloquent.

 

I will ask you again Robby, where did Syria get the wmd's? If they would have not used the gas, I would have no argument with what you posted, but since they chose to kill innocent people using gas, well the question now is where did it come from? Months had passed before the US invaded Iraq, and there has been reasonable suspicion to ask the where did they get the wmd's, and you dismiss it as if it were a fantasy.

The reason for your dismissal is of course you Bush haters being wrong, which you would deny even if Syria admitted they got them from Iraq

As far as doing nothing, you have no idea how that will turn out, but we do know how ugly it has been since 2001 now don't we

 

Not as funny as watching liberals turn into warmongers. Apparently you have been asleep for the past 12 years

 

My first guess would be they got it from there number one weapons supplier.

 

And who would that be robby? Iraq would be my first thought
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD_conjecture_in_the_aftermath_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq
Syria


Map of Syria, showing its location west of Iraq
Former Iraqi general Georges Sada claimed that in late 2002, Saddam had ordered all of his stockpiles to be moved to Syria. He appeared on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes in January 2006 to discuss his book, Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein. Anticipating the arrival of weapon inspectors on November 1, Sada said Saddam took advantage of the June 4 Zeyzoun Dam disaster in Syria by forming an "air bridge", loading them onto cargo aircraft and flying them out of the country.

They were moved by air and by ground, 56 sorties by jumbo, 747, and 27 were moved, after they were converted to cargo aircraft, they were moved to Syria.[15]

In January 2004, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who moved to Western Europe, said in a letter to the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that he knows the three sites where Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are kept inside Syria. According to Nayuf's witness, described as a senior source inside Syrian military intelligence he had known for two years,[16] Iraq's WMD are in tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria, in the village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp, and in the city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city. Nayouf also wrote that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assef Shawkat, Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.[17] U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice responded to this accusation by saying "I don't think we are at the point that we can make a judgment on this issue. There hasn't been any hard evidence that such a thing happened. But obviously we're going to follow up every lead, and it would be a serious problem if that, in fact, did happen."[16]

A similar claim was made by Lieutenant General Moshe Ya'alon, a former Israeli officer who served as chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces from July 2002 to June 2005. In April 2004, he was quoted as saying that "perhaps they transferred them to another country, such as Syria."[18] General Ya'alon told the New York Sun more firmly in December 2005 that "He [Saddam] transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."[19] The Fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly also reported Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as having said in a December, 2002 appearance on Israel's Channel 2, "...chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria."[20]

In February 2006, Ali Ibrahim al-Tikriti, a former Iraqi general who defected shortly before the Gulf War in 1991, gave an interview to Ryan Mauro, author of Death to America: The Unreported Battle of Iraq and founder of WorldThreats. In the interview, al-Tikriti, who was once known as the "Butcher of Basra", told Mauro:

I know Saddam's weapons are in Syria due to certain military deals that were made going as far back as the late 1980s that dealt with the event that either capitols were threatened with being overrun by an enemy nation. Not to mention I have discussed this in-depth with various contacts of mine who have confirmed what I already knew. At this point Saddam knew that the United States were eventually going to come for his weapons and the United States wasn't going to just let this go like they did in the original Gulf War. He knew that he had lied for this many years and wanted to maintain legitimacy with the pan Arab nationalists. He also has wanted since he took power to embarrass the West and this was the perfect opportunity to do so. After Saddam denied he had such weapons why would he use them or leave them readily available to be found? That would only legitimize President Bush, whom he has a personal grudge against. What we are witnessing now is many who opposed the war to begin with are rallying around Saddam saying we overthrew a sovereign leader based on a lie about WMD. This is exactly what Saddam wanted and predicted.[21]

Al-Tikriti's interview was featured prominently on conservative web sites such as FrontPageMag and WorldNetDaily, but did not receive main stream press attention. Salon magazine editor Alex Koppelman doubts both Sada's and al-Tikriti's story, arguing that Syria's decision to side with the coalition against Iraq in 1990 would have nullified any previous military deals.[22][23]

The Iraq Survey Group was told that Saddam Hussein periodically removed guards from the Syrian border and replaced them with his intelligence agents who then supervised the movement of banned materials between Syria and Iraq, according to two unnamed defense sources that spoke with The Washington Times. They reported heavy traffic in large trucks on the border before the United States invasion.[24] Earlier, in a telephone interview with The Daily Telegraph, the former head of the Iraqi Survey Group, David Kay, said: "[W]e know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."[25] Satellite imagery also picked up activity on the Iraq-Syria border before and during the invasion. James R. Clapper, who headed the National Imagery and Mapping Agency in 2003, has said U.S. intelligence tracked a large number of vehicles, mostly civilian trucks, moving from Iraq into Syria. Clapper suggested the trucks may have contained materiel related to Iraq's WMD programs.[26]

ISG formed a special working group to investigate and consider these claims. Charles Duelfer, head of inspectorate at time of publication, summarized the group's conclusion: "Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials.

 

Well when you get proof, then please indulge, as of now, I will stick to the CIA and the Pentagon statements, instead of the Washington Times and a report from 2002.

 

Palin doesn't really write anything, other people do for her

....then she just rambles through it mindlessly...constantly scanning for someone to look at her like she should be done talking.

Same goes for the unorginal meandering melodious free association that escapes her precious little head

 

Oh no!....I've been watching, and I oppose action.

I didn't think Obama should have caved to the righties calling him indecisive last year. That caused him to do that stupid "red line" garbage. Now we all have to deal with it.

As far as liberals turning to warmongers...if you look at the current split in opinon, lots' of conservatives have turned to doves just to oppose Obama. Hope you're amused by that as well

 

Neither is Pelosi but according to her we always have to vote for bills before we read them...

 

Actually, conservatives like me are against it because we have had a quagmire in that cesspool for the past 12 years, and it hasn't done squat to make this planet any better. We learn from our mistakes, it is a shame liberals don't

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It's OK Robby, you will have to pull your head out of the sand eventually, breathing is really a good thing

 

So its all the Republicans' fault, they called him indecisive and just had to spout off. If that is truly the case he is clearly not suited for the job. Nobody would accept that in a schoolyard, but we are to believe such of our own president? I think not...

Most people oppose getting into someone else's civil war and supporting rebels that have taken Al Qaeda into their ranks, for some reason that doesn't really sit well with people. You'd probably see a lot more support if we were going to actually kill the AQ segments found in Syria...

 

Exactly correct. If Obama is pondering war because he wants to regain some credibility that he himself once again self inflicted, he should be removed from office.
As we said, he should have kept his mouth shut if he had no intentions of taking action. This will just embolden our enemies into taking further action because they will perceive us as weak and that makes us and the rest of the world less safe.
It isnt how strong you are that matters on the world stage, its how strong your enemy perceives you. If your enemies dont fear you, you have failed. Obama is the most incompetent President our nation has ever seen. Pick a topic, foreign policy, economics whatever he is a walking disaster. If we here on PF can read him like an open book just imagine what countries with Nuclear Weapons are thinking about right now.

 

Palin is right.

The enemies of our enemies on both sides are our friends.

We DO not need to go after the Chemical weapons.
We need level the field and let them fight fair.

Give Gas to the people who were killed by Assad's gas.


The red line has been crossed.
The solution is simply to give Gas to the other side.

Assad will soon understand the agreement to outlaw Gas, when Gas is used back against him.

 

This is hilarious...heheh.

 

You can learn a lot from listening to National public Radio. Recently, I heard a piece where some guy who knows about this stuff was being interviewed. He explained that the chemical ingredients involved with the making of chemical agents are biological, and therefore perishable. In the uncombined state, shelf life is maybe 5 to 8 years, depending on storage conditions.
It requires pretty extensive training to know how to prepare and mix the components into weapons grade gas.
Once the stuff is mixed and packaged into the delivery mechanism, (more training required here) the shelf life is 3 to 5 years. This doesn't mean that you could store the components for 7 years, then mix, and gain 5 more. The gist of it is that the stuff Saddam had has since degraded to the point where it is still hazardous waste, but not the stuff to make weapons grade gas from.
It came from somewhere else. This isn't hard to believe, since "someone" has been providing them with weapons and funding for this whole time. Anyone who can provide tanks, missiles, artillery shells, and all the other junk that it takes to wage war could pretty easily make or buy this stuff.
Anywhere but Iran. End of that whole scenario....
As for Palin... She was the clown who made a total circus of the whole Republican campaign, and switched my allegiance to Libertarian forevermore.

 

Most righty polticians don't have the integrity of opinion you do. Too many on both sides either support, or oppose action based solely on how that affects elections and Obama's approval rating

 

You're not reading my posts carefully enough...I said "I didn't think Obama should have caved to the righties calling him indecisive last year"....It's not the Republicans fault if Obama falls for thier tactics.

From what I understand they've proposed lmited action meant solely to lesten Assad's ability for chemical attacks. That's it, nothing more...and I oppose that.

 

There was an article claiming British firms sold the basic ingredients to Syria.

 

The right thing Obama should have done so that he wouldn't have looked like an idiot is what Reagan did to Gaddafi, no warning, sent a missile to his palace killing one of his wives and a few kids, and we didn't hear (*)(*)(*)(*) from Gaddafi for a decade or more

 

So says the devout christian. He's probably thinking of Israel...

 

Tell me it ain't so, Al.

 

All you have to do is open your eyes and watch the steady parade of Jews on TV pushing for another war. Pre-Iraq, it was hard to find a gentile being interviewed at all. I got so sick of seeing Judith Miller and Charles Krauthammer I can't begin to tell you.