Democrats Walk Out On Families' Testiomny of Slain Benghazi Heroes

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  1. goober

    goober New Member

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    You are trying to make a big deal over a non-important point, to distract people from the facts and it's not working.
    Even if those aides you insist on counting as congressmen, were in fact congress men, it would still mean that a majority of the Republicans on that committee were "spitting on the graves of the Benghazi Heroes", you're splitting hairs here, and to no good effect on the viability of your argument.

    The hearing went on for over five hours, during that period people came and went.
    That's the way it is, there was no walkout, no protest, it was standard operating procedure.
    But Issa was taking advantage of the fact that a lot of people don't know that, and so he he tweeted and the noise machine picked it up, and the legions of ignorance began posting about the Democrats horrid disrespect, unaware that this is the way things are done, that during the five hours the relative numbers of those in attendance increased and decreased, and not because of some orchestrated walkout, but because there was nothing of importance that was going on, just a staged event. That's why 75% of the Republicans aren't there either.
     
  2. Yosh Shmenge

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    This issue isn't a big deal to me. It's merely indicative of the democrat's relationship to the whole Benghazi disaster: they wish it would go away and really don't want to deal with it in any shape, form or manner. I do however find it insulting when people pee on my leg, as the saying goes, and tell me it's raining.

    That's understood but when the parents of two slain Americans came to testify only two democrats bothered to show up even at the start of it all.
    There has been no reporting that any other democrat ever wandered in or dropped by. That's not only callous but incredibly tone deaf from a public relations standpoint. I thought liberals were supposed to be so clever.

    Eleven out of twenty-four is closer to fifty percent than seventy-five. But even if you were right (IF) when you can't even get more than two US congressmen to show up to appear to care when the parents of dead heroes have traveled to Washington DC to tell their tale you have a public relations problem.
    Perhaps the tone deaf foolishness of those that stayed away is what makes you angry.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Proving the others are not credible.
     
  4. goober

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    So in your opinion, only slightly more than half of the Republicans were spitting on the graves of dead heroes...is that the point you are trying to make?
     
  5. Serlak2007

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    20+ attacks on actual embassies during Bush's 8 years and not a single squeak from republicans.... One attack on CIA safe house during the reign of "The Black Guy" and republicans can't accept that there was nothing anybody could have done. Well except invading Libya, but then republicans would shut up about that.....
     
  6. Micketto

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    Lol.... so many idiots making race a part of the presidency.

    "The Black Guy".

    Yeah, you're right.... sometimes we forget that the President is supposed to get a pass on everything... since he's black.

    ffs, the ignorance is astounding.
     
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    The difference between this president and the last is a skin color. You have to live under the rock or watch Fox all the time not to see such simple things.
     
  8. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    If that is the difference you see between Obama and Bush... I would have to question which one of us living under a rock.



    fkn crazy.
     
  9. Serlak2007

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    Name me one thing that Obama do which Bush didn't do.
     
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    Tell us all... in those attacks how many times did requests for help come that were ignored?

    Thanks for playing.

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    No.

    They are heroes because they requested to go to the ambassador's location 3 times and were denied all three times. However, they went against orders and saved over 20 U.S. Citizens' lives with their heroic actions where they laid down their own lives waiting for the Obama Administration + Hillary Clinton to send them help which never came. These two SEALS fought for over 7 hours... and help never came.
     
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    Really? Which parts were "made up"? Because reporting from Jennifer Griffin (Fox News) and Sharyl Attkisson (CBS News) say far different.
     
  12. Ctrl

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    Again... you have no idea how many republicans were there. There were 11 in ONE photo. 3 others in the second. That is 14 for those counting. Last I checked 14 of 25 is closer to 75% attendance than 75% missing. Tell you what... why don't you go figure out how many republicans "came and went" for the victim's families testimony, and how many democrats "came and went"... then formulate a coherent argument. I find your making up numbers and statistics boring.

    I again point out, that it is the democrats, of which 2 made an appearance, who are actively interfering in the investigation of the truth these families are asking for, and deserve. Not, the republicans.
     
  13. goober

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    The premise that Issa made up is that Democrats walked out on the testimony from family members while sympathetic Republicans were there to witness the sorrow of the loved ones left behind.
    That wasn't what happened.....

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    Maybe you want to check your count again, I only get to 11 if I count aides.

    Maybe you want to explain why 18 Republicans "spitting on the graves of heroes" is something you are so very proud of......
     
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    I challenge you to spot aides. Then I will detail my 14. Your 18 do not exist.
     
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    how many times were requests for help ignored in lebanon in 1983, when 241 american servicemen were killed?
     
  16. Yosh Shmenge

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    I'm not trying to make a point. I've made it! Over and over again.
    You are still trying in vain to put the republicans on the defensive when only two democrats (Cummings and Speier) had the decency to just show up when parents of the dead came to testify.
    I can put the focus back where it belongs as many times as you can try to dodge the spotlight.
     
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    Turns out there weren't a lot of Republicans on the committee there either. Issa lied, you believed him. He thinks you are stupid.....
     
  18. goober

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    The people sitting in the back BEHIND the big leather chairs are aides.

    And maybe this part goes right over your head, but Issa's story only works if all the Republicans are present, then it's a horrible injsult that the Democrats aren't there.
    But if 18 or 14 or even 1 or 2 Republicans can get away skipping it, then you've been HAD, and not for the first time....
     
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    You have evidence they were in the room and listened to them speak?
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    As chairman it is certainly within his purview and his duty to record who is in attendance, you are simply stating the absurd now.

    So your evidence to refute the citation and pictures showing the Democrats refused to attend the testimony having left the room when the families were called. Any explanation of reason should come from them, do you have it?
     
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    Who was responsible and how they should held accountable.
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    Wrong question to ask. Why didn't President Jellybrain let the troops have live ammo?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    And you believe the two instances are entire the same set of circumstances and Bush's response was exactly the same as with Obama's response to Benghazi. That IS the jest of the excuse you are trying to make for Obama here isn't it. Are you saying it was OK that Bush had embassy deaths on his doorstep therefore OK for Obama? How many Americans were killed in attacks on American embassies during the Bush administration and in which attacks did Bush fail to respond to it and then lie about it being a terrorist attack?
     
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    Listening to he family members would provide no answers, just the same old wankfest about how the people at the consulate did not get the military response that they imagined would be there.

    Now, would you care to list the republicons who were there for the entire session?

    Issa is just staging photo ops again.
     
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