Legalisation of marijuana yes or no

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by WanRen, Aug 4, 2013.

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legalization of Marijuana

  1. yes

    79.8%
  2. no

    15.1%
  3. not sure

    5.0%
  1. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    You do know that the #1 organizer and funder of the anti-legalization movement is Budweiser, correct?
     
  2. KevinVA

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    No, I did not know that, but I just confirmed it. Is that supposed to sway my opinion? My opinions are not formulated as a result of who supports what. They're also not manipulated by popular opinion, as you can see from the poll at the top of the page. I'm certainly in the minority.
     
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    I guess I'm assuming that you are in favor of the legalization of Budweiser.
     
  4. KevinVA

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    lol... been down that aisle.
     
  5. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    No peaceful person gets lock up what you want is to allow criminals to roam the streets freely.

    Wow, now the more reason marijuana needs to be not legalize.

    You said it that is why marijuana must not be legalize.

    More detrimental than marijuana, right well base on your twisted reasoning the more reason why marijuana is dangerous and must not be legalize.

    It is a good thing that marijuana will not be legalize and if it will be legalize it will be so restricted and tax so high that you can't afford it.


    Nope you are not you can't even differentiate coco-cola, caffeine, hamburger from marijuana. You keep repeating your inconsistency and I kept on correcting you.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a lie.


    Really? To you, the fact that marijuana doesn't ruin people's kidneys and isn't physically addictive is reason to make it illegal? Please, I beg you, expand on your reasoning here. Honestly, I don't even know why I continue to respond to you since you aren't making even a bit of sense.


    Clarify what you're talking about. That came off as gibberish.

    Why is the fact that there are everyday substances that are more harmful than marijuana reason to make marijuana illegal? You're not making any sense.


    You're clearly losing touch with reality since the current trend is actually toward legalization and it isn't being priced out of reach of everyday citizens. I'm sure that causes you a great deal of distress but you're going to have to adjust.


    You can't articulate a reason to make marijuana illegal that, if your argument were consistent, wouldn't also be cause to criminalize the above. My position is quite consistent, you just don't like it and are stomping your feet in frustration.
     
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    I don't have much faith in walls, what with ladders having recently been invented 'n all. I also hear that the Mexicans are using air cannons to shoot dope over the walls that are already up. And then there are the ubiquitous tunnels which are all over the place. I don't even see why Mexicans bother to grow pot south of the border when they can just as easily grow it north of the border, and are doing so.
     
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    no, I oppose legalization.
     
  9. KevinVA

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    lol... so clever. Yes, I suppose ladders would have worked in the medieval era, prior to rifles, flame throwers and drones being invented. Have you ever taken a look at Israel's border with the Gaza Strip or their newer Egypt border fence? They typically don't have any trouble keeping people out. It's the missiles they lob over from Gaza that's a problem.

    Contrary to popular pothead belief, they're not growing as much marijuana in the states as you think... There's been a study on this subject and the common figure uninformed people use is 10,000 metric tons of pot is grown in the US per year... The true figure is somewhere around 2,300 metric tons. That being said, it's also much more difficult to grow outside of fertile farmland. Much time and effort would have to be taken to prepare land for the kind of pot growing you're interested in.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought that a simple wall was the most absurd thing imaginable to keep a plant out of a country with some of the most fertile land in the world...

    ...then you started talking about flamethrowers...LMFAO!
     
  11. WanRen

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    Proof it, unless you consider locking up criminals is a lie?

    You just claim that marijuana doe snot kill, it is better than coca-cola, caffeine or hamburger what is there to expand. The reason you keep on responding because you just can't accept that marijuana is no good to the general public and should not be legalize for that but only strictly for medical use. In fact you have not answer my question how much tax are you willing to pay to use marijuana for pleasure or how much restrictions?

    I have base on your argument and I can see that you don't understand your own argument the more reason why marijuana must not be legalize.

    So now you are admitting that marijuana is harmful that is a good start and because it is harmful it should not be legalize there are already too many harmful drugs out in the market we don't need more.


    Wrong, the current trend is legalization for medical use not for general consumption. And because you can not differentiate medical and pleasure this clearly rick that the legalization of marijuana will be abused and exploited by addicts.


    See now you understand why you don't understand your own argument you can't even differentiate coco-cola, caffeine, hamburger from marijuana. You keep repeating your inconsistency and I kept on correcting you.
     
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    The absurd notion that peaceful people don't get locked up is a lie and you proved it yourself when you admitted that people get locked up for no other reason that consuming a plant.


    You stated that marijuana should be illegal because it doesn't ruin people's kidneys and isn't physically addictive. I'd like you to explain the reasoning that you used.

    I already answered both of those questions.

    Marijuana should be illegal because I don't understand my own argument??? To you, the sky being blue is "more reason why marijuana must not be legalize."


    Why can't you answer a single question posed to you? Why is the fact that there are everyday substances that are more harmful than marijuana reason to make marijuana illegal?



    Two states just recently made marijuana legal for personal consumption and the federal government said that they would allow those states to do that. The trend is toward legalization for both personal and medical use. These are what we call facts.



    Now I understand why I don't understand my own argument??? What?
     
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    I smoke regularly. It is addictive, although much less than my experiences with alcohol and nicotine. This is something everyone who uses should realize, and it annoys me that so many deny that cannabis is addictive in the slightest. It's a dangerous rumor.

    Quitting puts me through mild anxiety for a few days, but that's about it. I do it in exam periods.

    On the other hand, reports about it destroying your life are also overstated. I use a vaporizer, so most of the physical effects are mitigated. It makes sleeping in really easy, so you've got to use alarms, but it hasn't interfered with work or university.
     
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    Trust me on this, a wall isn't going to do anything to stop the flow of drugs to consumers in this country. It's not even going to raise the price. But it will buy Jan Brewer a few more votes with MY money.
     
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    I gave you 13 "issues" in this post and about the same in the last. (in case you can't add or count 13 + 13 = 26 not 1 )

    To me keeping marijuana illegal is the epitome of idiocy.
     
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    Maybe a wall will stop that. If not let's all hope your their next victim.
     
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    Yet. Thank you for being honest. =]

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    Are you in AZ? Why should I trust you? Do you have the know-how to build a wall to keep out immigrants, cartels and drugs? Have you tried this before?

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    Wow... are you serious? I'm talking about the issue of "legalizing marijuana." Holy crap... Stop smoking, please.
     
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    Typical liberal. "I don't agree with you, so I hope you die." You're sad... nay, you're pathetic.
     
  19. anomaly

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    Yeah I know what you are talking about but the fact remains that 26 different issues that are caused by keeping it illegal have been made! I think you need to work on your reading skills and get off whatever meds your therapist has you on.
     
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    Oh I don't hope you die, I just hope your the next victim of a drug cartel's human trafficking plan.

    Typical conservative. Never read anything just assume something!
     
  21. KevinVA

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    Riiiight.
     
  22. KevinVA

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    Same difference.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. Note that doesn't mean I think cannabis should be illegal - on the contrary, cannabis use doesn't interfere with the rights of others, so I have no desire to prevent people from using it.

    I admit that there's a danger to one's health and well-being, but I think that's a personal choice thing. Why do I have the right to make decisions for other people concerning their wellbeing? Much better that they do, in my opinion.

    If that means the obesity rate rises and some people let it get out of hand, then so be it.
     
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    Didn't say you did. I just appreciate honesty.
     
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    That's awesome then. Too many people think antagonistic us vs. them style debate is a worthwhile endeavor.

    We should be exchanging perspectives and trying to better understand each other, in my opinion. Keep an open mind and you'll more often be perceived to "win" discussions anyway.

    Thanks for the convo.
     

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