Let’s Get This Class War Started

No need to feel sorry for me ... Because I don't want or need your help ... Much less therapy.
In fact, there is nothing I need from you that I cannot do or get on my own ... And nothing more I could wish for than for people like you to put your brains to better use.

Therapy is for people who cannot cope ... And for people who cannot function in the real world on their own.

Thieves take things from other people without asking or through coercion ... Beggars ask for things they have no intention of earning on their own (I know the difference).
As I have said many times ... I don't need your help with anything.

 

Mut everyone, including the laborers explit labor. It is the only way to make money. It is called taking advantage of your skill set.

 

The solution could perhaps be to stop promoting income inequality through the fractional reserve banking, limited liability, government subsidies, monopolistic regulations that disproportionately disadvantage small businesses and disincentivize entrance into the market, and waging wars to redistribute wealth to defense contractors.

As for the last paragraph, the framers would have been outraged at the current set of affairs, you give them too little credit (although others give them far too much). They supported classical liberalism as it was understood at the time. That meant that only male landowners could vote. Slavery was indeed a highly contentious issue within the body.

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Corporatism and plutocracy is indeed a great problem, left and right can agree on that, or at least I can. The Rockefellers and Morgans set up the current financial system you have today. They were by no means anti-government. On the contrary, Morgan in particular advocated for massive government intervention in the economy to eliminate his competition and cartelize the financial industry. That's exactly what's happened.

The modern nation isn't one of the rich vs. the people, it's the corporatists (both in business and government) vs. the people. That's an important distinction.

 

The real class war will be taxpayers vs moochers.

 

So the 'Reign of Terror' qualifies as working out well, huh?

 

Oh, you do need help...I just can't provide it for you in the fashion needed. THIEVES on Wall Street, and at the tables of large corporations. Beggars, would be the victims of their tyranny.

 

The ultra rich against everybody else is how I see it shaping up.

 

My version of class warfare is goading the wealthiest to insist their public servants merely purchase the finest solutions money can buy, with an official Mint at their disposal.

 

How many rich, greedy parasites were killed in the Terror, compared to how many poor working people were killed by those very same rich, greedy parasites EVERY YEAR before the revolution, hmmmmmm? Read "A Tale of Two Cities" and try to grab at least the beginning of a clue. Do you really think people can be treated like slaves for centuries, and not have any interest in revenge when the tables are turned? REALLY???

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Yep: productive working taxpayers vs rich, greedy, privileged, parasitic moochers.

 

They already have an official mint at their disposal, the Federal Reserve.

 

And don't forget the forcible removal of people's rights to life and liberty by landowning.

Your sig line claims:

No, that claim is false. It is physically impossible to "mix labor" with any material object. And even if it were true, which it isn't, it would not justify ANY existing land title, ALL of which are founded not on any absurd and impossible "labor mixing" nonsense, but on forcible dispossession and appropriation.

There is only one valid basis for property rights, and that is the producer's right to own the fruits of his labor, because that right does not abrogate anyone else's rights. But that right confers absolutely no property right whatever in anything other than the fruit of the producer's labor. Any claim to the contrary is propaganda intended to enable the enslavement of the productive by greedy, privileged, parasitic landowners.

 

What touching naivete. The Federal Reserve system is a private bankster monopoly, not a government Mint. It doesn't provide the government with any money. It just puts the government deeper into debt.

We do not live in a fiat money system. We live in a debt money system. Learn it, or continue to talk nonsense on the subject permanently.

 

Ok, you're moronic class warfare aside, you obviously forget the fact that violence only begets violence. There's a reason the expression "Revolutions eat their own children" came about. What do you think happened once the elite where dispatched? That's right, the revolution turned on itself. Its called a history book, pick it once in awhile.

 

"The ultra rich against everybody else is how I see it shaping up."

Taxcutter says:
All of those who let their envy overcome rationality see it that way.

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...productive working taxpayers vs rich, greedy, privileged, parasitic recipients of War on Poverty giveaways.

 

Totally agree, CLASS WARFARE is what we need. But in this country at least 49% of the dumb asss population supports the rich reaming them in their asssses.

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I'm down with it, KILL THEM.

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It did, France is a better country because of it.

 

Democratic Party principle #1:
If I have $5 and you have $20, you best be handing over MY $7.50!!!

 

I call treason. Go on boys string em up.

You all government all the time people are bat (*)(*)(*)(*) looney. You know that right? Not an insult I believe it is a medical condition contracted from mostly college professors and the consumption of human feces. Two doses daily of Thomas Sowell for 14 days and 1 John Stossell each night before bed. You have to quit that Naomi Klein designer drug stuff cold turkey. No sneaking wealth envy and ruler worship on the side or in the bathroom. Don't go around being covetous all day either, dreaming about killing your neighbors and taking their stuff.

 

Nobody is "all govt. all the time", just "some govt when it makes sense", and not "all private even if people starve and die".

 

Now you know why I like goading the wealthiest to insist their public servants merely purchase the finest solutions money can buy, with an official Mint at their disposal.

 

...productive working taxpayers vs rich, greedy, privileged, parasitic recipients of government handouts (i.e. especially landowners).

 

I just want to reform government so they stop taking PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE'S stuff and then give it to PRIVILEGED MOOCHERS.

 

You mean WALL STREET?

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Perfect description of WALL STREET!!!! Unproductive PRIVILEGED MOOCHERS.

 

The all-purpose defense of any and all injustice that profits the rich: "You're just envious."

What vicious, evil, despicable filth.

You call yourself, "Taxcutter," yet you demand that the productive pay for government TWICE so that landowners can pocket one of the payments in return for exactly nothing.

You shriek to high heaven about the 3% of GDP that is given to the poorest 10% in return for nothing, but will defend to the death the 30% of GDP that is given to the richest 1% in return for nothing.

I think we see where you are coming from, thanks.

 

“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” -- Warren Buffett

That's not a fact. It's historically false.

It's true that when violence is needed to overturn tyranny, the violent and ruthless tend to rise to the top.

Is that what happened in the USA? How about India?

I have. You haven't. The French Revolution was what finally brought the rights-based thinking pioneered by the American Revolution to the rest of the civilized world.

 

If you want to revolt, you can, but the end results will be exactly the same.

No matter what you do, or what system you put in place, the rich people are going to be rich, and poor people are going to be poor.

Now there are rare counter examples, but the vast vast majority of the time, the reason rich people are rich, is because they do things that make them rich. And the reason poor people are poor, is because they do things that make them poor.

If you confiscated all the wealth, and distributed it equally to all people in our country, in 10 years time, the rich people would be super rich again, and the poor people would be poor again.

How do I know? Two reasons: The wealthy of today, started out as the poor people of yesterday. Second, 80% of those who win a Million dollars from the lottery, are bankrupt in 10 years or less.

And I could list hundreds of examples of both.

I call it "The Pinball People Verses the Beer Pong People".

Where do I get that from? Warren Buffet, $60 Billion dollar net worth. Did you ever read how he started? He saved money working a paper route in high school, and purchased a Pinball Machine that he placed in a local business, where it earned him more money. In high school, he was investing for his future, to make more money. What were most people doing in high school? For me, the popular thing in my high school was, you work a job, save up $100, and buy a keg of beer. You would then go to someone's house, whose parents were not home, and play Beer Pong all weekend long.

Poor people are poor because they consume their wealth. Rich people are rich, because they invest for their future.

What happens when you give a poor Janite Lee, of St. Louis, $18 Million in lottery winnings? In 2001 Janite Lee not only burned through all $9 Million (after tax cash) in lottery winnings, but she owed $2.5 Million in debt she couldn't not pay, and filed for bankruptcy.

What happens when you give Steve Jobs $5 Million? He purchases a spin-off company from Lucasfilm, renames it Pixar, and starts producing some of the highest grossing films in history, Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters Inc, Cars, The Incredibles and so on.

Not only did Steve Jobs use the money to benefit society through the wealth of great family friendly films, but he also provided numerous jobs. Pixar had only 44 employees when Jobs purchased the company and invested into it. Now it has over 600.

Now what socialism, and the left in our country seeks to do, is take the money away from the Steve Jobs type people, and give it to the Janite Lee type people.

What do you think that will do to our society? Less jobs. Less companies. Less wealth produced. This is why in every country where they have tried this, the result has always been impoverishment. Cuba. Venezuela. North Korea. Pre-78 China. and the list goes on and on.

In the countries that move in the opposite direction, they yield the opposite result. Brazil. South Korea. Hong Kong. Taiwan. and on and on.