Everyone on food stamps isn't a freeloader

Safia , it used to be that the owner of a business cared about their employees and their welfare , not anymore , It's work for these slave wages or there's 10 people in line behind you that will !

 

So , we have a choice of paying a living wage where people don't need assistance and consumers pay more for there products or we continue to subsidize low paying employers workers with our tax dollars to support the Govt. programs they need to survive. If you choose the latter , please don't (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about people receiving these benefits !

 

Apparently those who sent you to risk your life to "save" a country that's been at war with itself and it's neighbors for thousands of years do not value your service enough to pay you a decent wage. In a 'better' world you would not have to worry about having a descent job when you left the military. IMO everyone who serves their country in the military ought to be guaranteed a descent job with descent pay afterwards.
But we don't live in a 'better' world.
The 'entitlement society' was a great notion fifty years ago when all anyone needed to do was show up for work on time and they could work their way up the economic ladder. The 'entitlement society' is what has destroyed America. The unions share a large part in deluding their members they would be paid thirty bucks an hour cranking out Levis when cheap knock offs are being made by slaves making .25 cents an hour in India. How long did anyone think that would last? Anyway.
No one in their right minds believes 50 million people on food stamps are EVER going to find a secure well paying job. Yes yes the exception proves the rule.
In ten years the 50 million won't be 45 million it will 55 million and growing.
If that isn't the economic/societal canary in the coal mine nothing is.
America is the young kid who inherits a million bucks and blows through it in a year. America 'inherited' vast wealth in the form of natural resources and a vast energetic work force. What happened? Everyone with a grade nine education was raised to believe they were 'entitled' to live the life style of a dentist. That worked for a while. Until China and India woke up.
Now the party is indeed over. To be frank it's long past time millions of Americans woke up also. To the reality that their children will never own a house or a new car. "Mommy and Daddy. What was a 'credit card'? What did 'Take Out' mean? Was there really a place called Disney Land?". Millions of people would be ultimately better off if they would become 'pro active' about what is facing them and their children. Get yourself out of the urban centers and into a rural areas where you can plant and harvest. Drink clean water. Breath clean air. Begin to live lives of independence and self respect. Use the 'food stamps' to buy essential basic things.
I know most of this will be met with glazed over eyes. This is the reason things are getting so bad and about to get worse.
I do understand that literally millions of Americas literally do not know how to tie their shoes (thanks to the Liberal Indoctrination Centers they were 'streamed' through and those people will sadly be the ones sleeping/dying in the gutters in the cities. Sorry about that. Social Darwinism is always just around the corner.
If Obama has his way America would become a Socialist society. Oh the irony. The people at the bottom end of the economic/social ladder in these societies are treated like the scum of the earth. If you are a poorly educated/non-skilled 'person of color' in say Sweden may God help you. So much for 'equality' and the 'dignity of all'.

 

Many of those FREELOADERS are the elderly(too old to work), the young(too young to work), and the handicapped(cannot work). In other words, they are not freeloading at all. Something the GOP fails to recognize. I just can't figure out why they try so hard at being deceptive and dishonest.

If they worked at being honest as much and as hard as they worked at being dishonest.........................they might actually be able to govern when elected to do so.

 

I think that the category IS "opinions and beliefs"

 

Not when I made that post it wasn't. Now this thread, created by liberal, is in the right place.

 

Here is some more bleeding heart stuff for you:

Here we are one year after the Republicans got an drubbing, in part because of Bishop Willard (Mitt) Romney’s 47% comment and the party’s incessant drivel about “makers and takers , it’s apparent that nothing has been learned. They continue to malign those who are to some degree dependent on government services, while at the same time calling for cuts to those services.. They still call people who are just trying to survive in a cruel economic environment leaches and parasites. They believe, or pretend to believe that anyone can go out and get job- a job that pays a living wage anytime they wish if only they were not so lazy and content to be on the dole. They ignore the fact that the majority of the 47% that Romney referred to are working but too poor to have an federal income tax liability, in part due to the earned income tax credit and child care credit supported by Republicans. They also fail to acknowledge that these same people pay other federal taxes, as well as state and local taxes which are highly regressive.

Interestingly, this harsh swim or sink attitude emanates from the same people who expound a steadfast belief in lais-sez faire capitalism, and minimum regulations and safeguards against corporate excesses. They are often anti union and opposed to raising the minimum wage. What they fail to understand or acknowledge is that poverty, unemployment, and underemployment are built into the capitalist system. Even in a regulated economy, the need for labor expands and contracts as the result of a multitude of factors at home and around the world. When the economy shrinks, excess workers are sidelined. At the same time, the workforce expands and contracts, also as the result of factors that we can’t control. There is also the issue of matching skills to the available jobs geographically. Rarely is there a perfect match between those seeking jobs and the needs of business , and there is usually excess labor.

In addition they fail to grasp the fact that not only does a free market necessitate a government assistance on occasion, but the social safety nets are good for capitalism. When the economy shrinks as it always will from time to time, programs are needed to maintain societal stability and a workforce that will be to be ready to work when the system needs there services again-to work for and enrich the capitalists. In their book “Regulating the Poor: The Function of Public Welfare”, Francis Fox Piven and Richard A. Cloward make this argument, and go on to say that relief efforts not only maintain social order, but also reinforce the work ethic by ensuring that people are only given enough to subsist without being to comfortable.

I will submit to you that the only way to eliminate the much maligned dependency is to regulate business to the extent where they must put people before profits and provide a good job for all regardless of the bottom line. However that would be SOCIALISM and we can’t have that. Or, we could re-establish alms houses. What we cannot do is to have it both ways. We must either accept tighter controls on business practices to prevent the exploitation of workers in the name of profit, or stop persecuting the less fortunate victims of the unsavory side effects of free enterprise .

 

spot on, if people want a 99 cent hamburger, then tax payers will have to supplement the workers that work so cheap to make that possible

every employer that doesn't pay a living wage is freeloading off the tax payers

"McDonald's advises own employee to apply for food stamps"

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...helplineadvisesfoodstampsnotwageincrease.html


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The Republicans cost cutting measures apparently include starving children to death.

 

Never trust a conservative who talks about "freeloaders". Ever. Most of them have ulterior motives.

 

The overwhelming majority of people receiving food stamps have jobs.

 

" If they would rather die......they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
Dickens

 

Obama won't be in office forever. Cheer up. It is easier to get 10 non voters to the polls next election round then to expatriate or "become accustomed" to anything like what you describe.

 

What? Are there no poor houses? No government aid?

But sir, some of those people would rather die.


(It was an appeal to charity. Not socialism)

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The greatest health problem among good stamp recipients is obesity. Try again.

 

Why do you expect to make a living wage at a starting position at McDonalds? Your government agencies push this stuff on employers and then you complain about it later.

 

"You can't have it both ways" says the person trying to have it both ways. If people believe they need more food then they need to develop more valuable skills or work more to obtain more money. Working for McDonald's or Walmart is not an optimal career path if you would like to eat more, unless you are willing to maintain more than one job. You blame everyone but yourself for your predicament, but what do you do with your free time? Do you develop new skills? Are you getting a degree from a university? Now more than ever there is access to education as the Internet allows people to study remotely. But no, people think they are entitled to punch a clock for 40 hours, then define what a livable wage is, and demand that they are paid the livable wage regardless of the usefulness of their contributions. Have you ever thought about trying to actually have your work be worth what you are paid?

 

Never trust a leftist promising free anything. They are communists at heart or useful idiots.

 

Instead of forcing people to do what you want why don't you just pay people a living wage? Why force others to do what you want when you can do it yourself? Pay every kid out of high school with no experience 50k a year. Why not? Surely you will be able to do that, you expect others to.

 

Brilliant stuff.

 

It is true you know. The left promises free everything in attempt to nationalize industries and/or bring them under control and subvert capitalism and freedom in the marketplace.

 

47% of the people receiving food stamp benefits are children. Try what again?

 

As to their parents, we're there earnings taxed? Do they have to pay a mountain of hidden taxes that increase costs? Were they forced to go to failing schools run by the unions?

Do you concede the dickens quote was anti leftist?

 

Well you are not totally incorrect. I think that the next time the large banking houses crash the economy and demand an implicit taxpayer guarantee that the government should just nationalize them altogether, but they won't and you know it. Health care won't be nationalized either, at least not until Tea Partiers start dying off and GOP redistricting is unrolled.

 

How does any of that address the issue of Republicans taking food out the mouths of children to feed this kind of simple minded rhetorical nonsense?

 

The government now backs 90% of home mortgages. Who didn't nationalize the home mortgage industry?

http://www.propublica.org/article/weve-nationalized-the-home-mortgage-market-now-what


Who provided the money and the backing of those high risk loans in the first place? Who for Ed banks into those loans via regulation?

You picked a horrible example.