A widespread myth is that the US has a lousy and expensive health care system. Expensive? Maybe. Lousy? Maybe not. One parameter used has been life expectancy, where the US is around ninth or tenth. But if you filter out two non-health causes of death (car accidents and urban homicide) the US vaults into first place. http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/11/23/the-myth-of-americans-poor-life-expectancy/ Also the result of various nations health care at the point of intervention. The US is #1. Actually rates death due to urban homicide and car accidents and down from where they were thirty years ago.
The latest Hi-tech equipment and well-equipped hospital rooms cost $$$ Which allows for the best medical care 'money can buy!'
From what I've seen, our healthcare providers do fantastic work. I'm distraught at the soaring prices, but the quality of care tends to be high, at least in my part of the country....
I don't see the point of eliminating car crashes and gun shots. It isn't like doctors and medical professionals ignore those when the show up. Someone is cherry picking statistics...
"I'm distraught at the soaring prices, but the quality of care tends to be high..." Taxcutter says: While there is a substantial portion of the cost that consumers see that is due to cost-shifting from deadbeats to paying customers (another issue altogether) you do (more or less) get what you pay for. Health care is free in many countries but what you get is a glorified witch-doctor.
Expensive, yes, but in perspective, it has greater value, than say, a new flat screen or new car. Well, unless you just don't care about yourself. It's funny, people will save for vacations, for a home or college, but not HC. Don't figure.
Obama and the progressive leftists created this false narrative and crammed Obamacare down our throats. It is all lies built on all lies and advanced by more lies. Comrade Soetoro knows how to lie better than anyone who has ever lived. But that is what you get when you elect a commie from a commie family metored by a commie who sought out other radicals that think the same America hating thoughts and who have the same destroy America goals and agenda. And do not forget that the perversity and degeneracy of little Barry was compounded by the fact that his mother is a porn star. No wonder he is screwed up.
...until Obama and his clueless minions get done introducing the full scope of mediocrity he has planned...
Again, us real Americans have to explain things to Obama voter. Because shootings and car accidents are not stricktly health conditions of natural causes. Print out or write down for future reference. You are welcome.
Tru Dat! Progressive Neo-Marxists look longingly at Europe and other places thinking only in terms of cost, progressives never embrace value or high competence. They are one demensional thinkers, and they appeal to the lowest common demoninators who just happen to also be Obama voters.
According to this Forbes article, Medical Malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the US behind heart disease and cancer. http://www.forbes.com/sites/learnve...s-you-want-to-know-about-medical-malpractice/ I wouldn't be exactly proud of this record. We do have good healthcare, for those who can afford it. For those who have no insurance, it becomes more difficult to access the best health care. In come cases, those who are insured don't get the best care our country has to offer either. Insurance companies have been known to give kick backs to doctors that don't order expensive tests, causing doctors to misdiagnose people. This is what happened to me, I was on an HMO, and thought I had a good policy. It wasn't until I became disabled that I found out that had I been properly diagnosed and treated I might not have become disabled. When I was put on Medicare, my new doctor ran all sorts of tests and I got a proper diagnosis but the damage had been done.
If you don't like paying for dead beats health care, it would seem that you would like Obamacare. The law forces people to be responsible for their own health care. Those who can't afford health care will be covered by our tax money, but it will be considerably less than we have been paying.
Talk about a false narrative. Obamacare's origins are with a conservative approach to health care (personal responsibility). It wasn't crammed down anyone's throat. It was passed by congress, signed into law by Obama, and supported by the SCOTUS. Commies laugh when people like you call Obama a commie. He is as much a commie as Bush or Reagan. Nothing Obama has done was designed to destroy the US. That is a talking point your puppet masters, the Koch brothers, want you to spew. Where do you get the idea that Obama's mother was a porn star? Isn't it a bit disingenuous to attack someone who is dead and can not defend themselves?
I have never known anyone ever who did not benfit from our great healthcare system with or without insurance. No one. Not ever. It is a false progressive leftist false narrative that the braindead lunatic fringe lapped up, us real Americans know a scam when we see it and we do not allow incompetent losers to define problems like Obama voters do. We are intelligent enough to see things with our own eyes and draw conclusions with our own brains.
No it won't. They are moving over to Medicaid where we will still pay for them. In fact, 62,000 people in Oregon found out they were eligible for Medicare, so they signed up for it last month. No one signed up for ObamaCare in the state. All we've accomplished is swelling the costly entitlement programs at the expense of the tax dollar. It'll get worse as the states will start raising taxes to make up for the shortfall that will be created by the Medicaid program. That doesn't sound like being less expensive to me. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...jority-of-obamacare-sign-ups-are-in-medicaid/
People who don't have health care insurance, can't afford to pay a doctor, and are not covered by Medicare/Medicaid, end up at the ER, which drives the prices up for the rest of us. Hospitals pass the cost on to insurance companies which pass the cost on to customers. The government pays Hospitals a portion of the bills these people run up with our tax dollars. We are already paying for them. It's cheaper to give people medical treatment at doctor's offices and through preventative care then it is to treat them at ERs.
This is all too easy. If you have wide expanses of land with not a lot on it, like most of midwest and western United States, increased vehicular traffic is inevitible. With increased vehicular traffic, the odds of becoming a traffic fatality increase as well. If Americans, especially Americans in the western states, log 20 to 30 times more vehicular miles than the average European, then a direct comparison of life expectancy without factoring in vehicular deaths is not possible. If you do not have some factor for dealing with those deaths, you are comparing the European health care system versus the American health care system minus the American highway system. That would be cherry picking statistics. Likewise, with the carnage that happens in Democratically controlled cities in the United States, you are not making a real comparison of health care systems. Perhaps, if you took the murder rates in Chicago and Detroit and balanced them out with the Serbian and Bosnian Wars, then you would have a pretty close comparison, but your metric isn't going to be the efficacy of health care, but rather the skill and marksmanship of the worst people in that society. Factoring out homicide and vehicular deaths isn't cherry picking, it is really the only fair comparison.
True but we already have a shortage of general practitioners in this country, giving more people insurance and access to them just increases wait times and will likely make people more likely to just say (*)(*)(*)(*) it ER time! Lets take a look at how Mass. is doing with Romneycare for example. First link says Seems logical... Next source: A 9% increase of ER use when taking population growth into account, sounds like its going to make healthcare more expensive.
LOL, Personal responsibility now means a central authoritarian approach to force people to pay for other people's healthcare and you call that conservative?
Until someone is told it will be a week until they can be seen and they are sitting there with a sick kid. They will go to the ER get seen. They aren't going to wait a week.
