President speaks on Obamacare...

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    During press-conference in the White House few minutes ago, the president announced he'll order/convince Insurance companies to reinstate old policies. How can he do that? Will they cost the same? Aren't they just gone, the old policies? And if they're reinstated, who'll be joining exchanges to pay for new medicare and free policies? I mean, the insurance companies canceled millions of policies to be in compliance with Obamacare, so if they reinstate them, will not they be breaking the LAW? Help me out here, people, for I cannot understand the logic behind Obama's statements.

    A fairytale continue to be told by Obama...
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bowing to pressure, President Barack Obama on Thursday announced changes to his health care law to give insurance companies the option to keep offering consumers plans that would otherwise be canceled.

    The administrative changes are good for just one year, though senior administration officials said they could be extended if problems with the law persist. Obama announced the changes at the White House.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obamacare-enrollment-low-democrats-unhappy-20884652

    What? WTF? Are we still living in the representative democracy? Only Congress can ALLOW or DISALLOW changes to the law... WHF is going on? Liberals, do you still support what Obama is doing?
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Got me Dutch. The only thing I can say is he'll try to convince insurance companies to reinstate those plans, but according to Obama if they don't or charge you 20% more he can't do anything about that. In other words it won't be his fault. If it costs the taxpayers more, I believe the House will have to vote on that.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ACA is a law. A law can only be changed by congress. His majesty cannot change it by himself.
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would the insurance companies knowingly break the law, especially if the law allows them to cancel many unprofitable plans and dump them onto exchanges?
     
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    The problem is that the GOP did not push the issue when Obama suspended the Employer Mandate. So, Obama feels that he can rewrite the bill as he sees fit.
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone forgot to tell it to Obama. This is just unreal, what is happening.

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    Right on!
     
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    Radio Refugee New Member

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    Welcome to American Tyranny.

    Also, the ACA has been renamed as the Costly Affordable Care Act, appropriately, CACA.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, but it won't be Obama's fault...:wink:
     
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    Great point but...it a standing problem. Who sues?

    Perhaps it will get moving now.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    It's CACA all right.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Boehner just said, he does not see how Obama can make any changes to the law administratively. There's still a chance for Boehner to make his mark on history, I guess...
     
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    Actually, he did not say "he'll order/convince Insurance companies to reinstate old policies." What he said is that he was giving the Insurance Companies the option to renew these policies, or even sell new policies, under these old plans. The other criteria was, the states have to allow these policies to be sold. In other words, he has passed the problem to the Insurance Companies and the State Insurance Commissioners. That way he can blame them when people question why these people still do not have policies.
     
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    Yes, As I said. It will not be his fault...he tried he really did. He's just a victim like those losing their insurance.
     
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    It wouldn't matter. The court will claim that the individual or company does not have standing in the case. That way no one can sue.
     
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    Why on Earth would the insurance companies even agree to such a thing? If the law states the plans they cancelled were not in compliance how can they in good faith even offer them, regardless of what the president says? I really hope the insurance companies hit back on this. All they did was follow the law, it was the president and his administration's lies that created this train wreck...
     
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    I never thought I'd say this but I'm with you. I don't know what the hell is going on. Obama is becoming a punch line. I'm very much a Liberal and I'm sick of this guy.
     
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    But he did....and he continues to do so. This arrogant turd thinks he can just pop on tv and tell private businesses what they can and can't do....of course, after doing basically the same thing with this debacle of "law" and what he did through that, it's not a far stretch.

    Gee, I thought this was the "law of the land!" All the leftist turds have been on here bleating that for weeks.

    Also, this newest little blurb is only good for a year...which the Repubs have been asking for and steadfastly refused by the Dems...but now that maobama jumps up and does it, the Dems will eat it up.

    He is still continuing the lie that on how much cheaper it's all going to be for everyone.

    It's all a freaking joke. Nothing short of complete repeal of this absurd "law of the land" will be acceptable.
     
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    The old, canceled policies cannot be revived under the law, nor can insurance companies offer old policies under the label of "new", as they wont qualify under the law.So, it'll have to be new, qualified policies which by definition will cost more... hence, what's new? What exactly did Obama propose that will help Americans? You know the answer, don't you?
     
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    If you're sick of him...think how American's feel.
     
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    Nice having you in our ranks.
     
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    I don't think insurance companies will do it, but if they do just think the individual and employer mandate will roll out at the same time and it will all be after the 2014 elections.
     
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    If any of your future is held in Boehner's hands, you, baby, are screwed.
     
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    What I heard was him saying they can reinstate them. Not that they have to.

    So those who get theirs back, will just lose them again in a year, lol.


    It's great watching the President answer to all the cancellations, which the left on the forum were claiming never happened.
     
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    Somebody needs to get control of this idiot. There needs to be a serious motion to impeach him. (*)(*)(*)(*) like this is beyond anything the country's ever seen, and yet the star-eyed pleebs will continue to cheer.
     

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