Obama delivers Gettysburg Address on YouTube, leaves out ‘under God’

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  1. darckriver

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    Obama delivers Gettysburg Address on YouTube, leaves out ‘under God’

    [video=youtube;Nm-vfxZyJwo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm-vfxZyJwo&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    My wife heard this on the radio and I said, "So? Would you expect him to actually use those words?"

    But, I guess it would make more sense for him to have used them, right? After all, he is a Muslim... errr... Christian, right? [his mistake - not mine]
     
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    White Male Heterosexual Christians are the enemies of barryX
     
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    Non issue for me.
     
  4. Think for myself

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    From the article linked in the OP.

    But the other two drafts — Nicolay and Hay — are thought to be the only two from which Lincoln would have read from that autumn day.

    It woudl appear the president read the exact same version that Lincoln did.

    Was he supposed to read a different version of the speech?
     
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    So he used one of the historically credible versions? How is this an issue? Oh wait, its Obama doing something, and everyone knows conservatives have to hate everything he does or they might start looking at themselves in the mirror.
     
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    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<<

    Dont blame me for not believing him.

    Personally, I think he made a conscious choice to select a version without god, and used that.

    Dont worry.... Ill still cling to my guns and religion.....
     
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    I don't want to hear you liberals (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and complain that he shouldn't have to say God.

    The fact of the matter is, the speech was written and said with the word God in it. Obama is the biggest piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) to ever hold the office. Stupid as hell he is.
     
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    From the article linked in the OP

     
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    It seems we have another faux outrage thread. So the complaint is that Obama used a version considered to be historically accurate? Man, that really is an outrage. I can't believe people are not hitting the streets over such an outrage.

    Let me guess: If he used one of the versions thought to be not accurate people would have whined about that, too. Yet another case of lose-lose. Seriously, get a life.
     
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    The version of the speech given by Lincoln did not have the phrase in it. This was clearly demonstrated earlier in the thread.

    I am not sure why anyone, left, right, Muslim, Chritstian, anyone would expect him to give a rendition of the speech that is different than the one actually given by Lincoln.
     
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    You are wrong. Sorry.

    - - - Updated - - -

    It says this..

     
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    Lincoln was a Muslim, too.
     
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    Who would have guessed?

    [video=youtube;bMUgNg7aD8M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M[/video]
     
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    According to unnamed eyewitnesses and in direct contrast to facts and reality.

    I am amazed that folks are so outraged that the president opted to be historically accurate here .
     
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    So they've stated.
     
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    But the speech he gave did have it in it.

    Why someone would not want to recite the exact speech he gave is beyond me. If Lincoln didn't give a speech at all, and just sent out a flyers with this writing on it, then Obama did the same, you might have a point, but he didn't so you don't.
     
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    Let's start with why anyone would expect him to be at Memorial today, and not recording his speech between the rounds of golf.

    And second, if Gettysburg address had Allahu Akbar for the final words, in the interests of outreach and political correctness, Obama would have used them.
     
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    So your upset that he made a "conscious decision" to use the exact speech Lincoln gave?

    Lol, you people need to seek help for your ODS
     
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    I'm upset he did not go to the Lincoln Memorial... to omit G*d was expected.
     
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    I am going to have to side with reality on this one and go with the historians.
     
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    He's done similar editing before. IIRC, it was the Declaration of Independence that lost 'God'* and it was maybe in a SOTU address.

    Commies are godless. Didn't everyone know that?

    *' Endowed by our Creator' got the axe


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    "The fact that "under God" is not in the pre-speech transcripts, however, does not mean that it was not included in Abraham Lincoln's delivery. In fact, the weight of evidence suggests that Lincoln did say the words "under God." Four separate newspaper reporters, each of whom was present at Gettysburg, wrote down their firsthand accounts of Lincoln's speech, and all four accounts include the phrase "under God." (Garry Wills, 191-92)"

    And it is included in the text inscribed on the Lincoln Memorial.

    What do you have to back your assertion Lincoln did not utter the phrase and that Obama correctly omitted it?
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    You didn't read the article did you?
     
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    This has nothing to do will Obama lying. Its whats happening to this country.. Its being striped on it values. God is just one of these.
     
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    Are you dyslexic or something? Because the article also says, "Three of those drafts — Bliss, Everett and Bancroft — include the words “under God” in the speech’s final sentence.

    But the other two drafts — Nicolay and Hay — are thought to be the only two from which Lincoln would have read from that autumn day."
     

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