Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol!!!!

    another conspiracy theory.

    got any evidence that the autopsy was part of a cover-up?
     
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    People have known it was a conspiracy since the 1970s. Jack Anderson made an entire TV special about the conspiracy in 1988. There is nothing new here. Only people denying the truth.

    [video=youtube;oDbodTKnTjc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDbodTKnTjc[/video]
     
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    Now, let's look at some of the things Dr. Clark said in his testimony to Arlen Spector:

    Mr. SPECTER - And what else did you state at the press conference at 2:30 on November 22?
    Dr. CLARK - I stated that the President had lost considerable blood, that one of the contributing causes of death was this massive blood loss, that I was unable to state how many wounds the President had sustained or from what angle they could have come




    Mr. SPECTER - What, if anything, did you say then in the course of that press conference?
    Dr. CLARK - I described the President's wound in his head in very much the same way as I have described it here. I was asked if this wound was an entrance wound, an exit wound, or what, and I said it could be an exit wound, but I felt it was a tangential wound.

    Dr. CLARK - The effects of any missile striking an organ or a function of the energy which is shed by the missile in passing through this organ when a bullet strikes the head, if it is able to pass through rapidly without shedding any energy into the brain, little damage results, other than that part of the brain which is directly penetrated by the missile. However, if it strikes the skull at an angle, it must then penetrate much more bone than normal, therefore, is likely to shed more energy, striking the brain a more powerful blow.

    Secondly, in striking the bone in this manner, it may cause pieces of the bone to be blown into the brain and thus act as secondary missiles. Finally, the bullet itself may be deformed and deflected so that it would go through or penetrate parts of the brain, not in the usual direct line it was proceeding.


    looks like Dr. Clark wasn't sure from which direction the bullet came.

    http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/clark_w.htm
     
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    you mean like the truth that a majority of witnesses heard gunshots from behind the car, and that Dr. Clark wasn't sure which direction JFK was shot from?

    that kind of truth????
     
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    Dr. Clark stated under Oath, before Congress, that he wasn't sure how many times JFK was shot from or what angle the bullets came.

    He also stated that he wasn't sure if the wound he examined in the back-right of JFK's head was entry, exit, or other kind of wound.
     
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    There seems to be some dispute about that. There are many theories. I find Jack Ruby to be a very interesting character in all this, he seems like someone who would have been particularly vulnerable to being manipulated by organized crime.
     
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    NOWHERE in his testimony does Clark state, under Oath, that the shots came from infront of the car.

    Such a claim is a lie.
     
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    I do not know who killed Kennedy, but no one can convince me that Oswald acted alone. The back of Kennedy's head is blown out. That is an exit wound. I believe Mac" Kilduff, Jr., Dr. Perry, and Dr. Clark were all telling the truth on November 22, 1963.
     
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    according to Dr. Clark, it was not an exit wound but tangential.

    he also stated he didn't know how many wounds JFK had or from what angle they came.



    according to the official autopsy, it was an entry wound.
     
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    Dr. Clark said it could be an exit wound.
    He went on to describe what he meant by tangential wound. A tangential wound causes more damage than a direct hit. Dr. Clark was describing why the wound in the back of the President's head was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed. A direct hit would have caused less damage.

     
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    that's the problem, conspiracy theorists don't believe in random acts and pure coincidence, it has to be all a grand conpsiracy. Anyone can plant doubt in anything. If you really try hard, you can write pretty convinsing stuff about any conspiracy - how moon landing was fake, lincoln assasination didn't happen how people think it did, kennedy assasination, Elvis's death, 0911, pearl harbor... anyone can find little inconsistencies, coincidences, anomalies and craft a good write up of theory after theory. Aren't people even convined Obama wasn't born in America? I mean, there are always coincidences, inconsistencies floating around about vitually everything out there. I hear a lot about the circumstances about how Kennedy was hated by mafia because of RFK's perscution of them; how he wanted to withdraw from Vietnam and this angered people; how the cubans hated him for what happened at bay of pigs; how extremists hated him cause of his civil rights push. The fact is that this can be said about many presidents. I can make a long list about people who would've wanted to kill LBJ, Reagan, Obama... if any of them would've been assasinated, the conpsiracy nuts would've done the same damn thing - Reagan, LBK and Obama had so many enemies, this was no coincidence..blah, blah..

    A convincding conspiracy can be fabricated about anything, anytime and everytime...
     
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    amazes me how some people keep coming back to get checkmated all the time.

    thats comedy gold that someone is living in denial that all the documents have been released.

    One document that HAS been released that IS there that many reseachers saw in the 90's that they failed to cover up,was the one where JFK did sign two months before his assassination that he was going to have all military personal pulled out by 1965.

    that one they HAVENT been able to cover up.you wont hear are CIA controlled media mentioning any of this though of course.its just amazing isnt it how anytime they are proven wrong with evidence that debunks their beliefs,they dismiss it?

    good point about RFK's assassination,his was just as much of a joke as Jfk's was as well in the fact that the worlds best pathologist examined RFK's body and concluded that his fatal head wound came from a bullet in the back of the head which clears sirhan because all the witnesses said they saw him in front of RFK the entire time and photos prove it as well.


    Not only that,but photographs were taken of the pantry and they showed like 11 bullets which proves there was a conspiracy since Sirhans gun chamber only held a total of 8 I believe.It was much less than the bullets photographed we know that much.:roflol:

    according to the warped minds of the magic bullet theorists though,the worlds best pathologist in the world is not credible just like all the dallas doctors arent credible,only the media.:roflol:

    the magic bullet theorists as they know just as well as we do,they would be laughed out of a debating hall within a minute if they debated the same way there the way they do here with their warped logic and how they dismiss these facts.:roflol:
     
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    noone can convince the ratioanl objective ones not afraid and open minded because there is no evidence he did it.hee hee.
     
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    Cark felt it was NOT an exit wound.

    He also stated he didn't know how many injuries JFK had or from what angle they came.
     
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    There could have been no conspiracy theory if a proper investigation would have been transparently performed.

    The attending doctor at Parkland Hospital clearly stated on November 22, 1963, and again on March 21, 1964, under oath, that Kennedy had a large, gaping wound in the back of the his head in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed. To most of us who have shot guns and taken physics classes we know that is an exit wound, and Dr. Clark testified that it could be an exit wound.

    The "official" autopsy report had to match the "official" story. So they told the public a story of an entrance wound in the back of the head by a crazed lone gunman who had no clear motive. They created a conspiracy theory after the fact. That's the theory you believe. Sounds like a fairytale to me.
     
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    Ruby was a gangster,he worked for Al Capone in his early days.He WAS organized crime.Johnson and Nixon both had ties to the mafia.

    Like myself and he has said throughout this entire thread,Nixon pardoned Ruby in 1947 and brought him to dallas to work for the dallas mob.

    Ruby and oswald were spotted by many people before the assassination together.they also spotted ruby with Officer Tippet as well.
     
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    the best evidence says Oswald killed JFK, alone.
     
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    ALL the 26 trained medical personal at dallas of doctors and nurses ALL concluded the back of his was blasted out with a large wound to the back which proves conclusively,he was shot from the front.

    oswald as the lone assassin is a proven fairy tale for the logical,open minded people

    thats the ONLY conspiracy THEORY there is to be told if people want to talk about goofball conspiracy theories.:D:roll:
     
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    Then tell that to the CIA theory conspirators who claim the CIA had it done.
     
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    No he didn't. He never said that at all. Do you have a link to that?
    It wasn't Dr. Clark's job to know how many injuries JFK had or from what angle. His job was to write the death certificate and let the coroner determine the cause of death.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That's for sure. The evidence is overwhelming.
     
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    Yeah after the JFK assassination SSA's are trained to flee if they as much as sense a threat in escorting duties. Along with presidential limo's being completely re-designed and security measures put in place. But those werent in place before the Kennedy Death.
     
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    we dont know who all the actual shooters were,but we know there was a conspiracy and oswald is innocent and it was the CIA behind it as we have proved throughout this entire thread.
     
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    Mr. SPECTER - What, if anything, did you say then in the course of that press conference?
    Dr. CLARK - I described the President's wound in his head in very much the same way as I have described it here. I was asked if this wound was an entrance wound, an exit wound, or what, and I said it could be an exit wound, but I felt it was a tangential wound.



    try reading his testimony someday.
     
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    Why would they have only released some of the autopsy photos? Get real, the report said some 50+ photos were taken and they were all in the archives.
     
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    so very true,shame they will never look at that video.
     
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