How I Wish the Homosexuality Debate Would Go

Gene or no gene, homosexuality is not a 'choice'

1,500 animal species practice homosexuality

Of the 1500 species that do engage in homosexuality, I would like to mention two of the them: the worm and the crab. I specifically bring these two up because both lack the one thing needed to make a 'choice' - a brain.

 

you really are a light weight when it comes to understanding the blog.

 

as you know i fully support Mo's …any kind of Mo..as long as they don;t do kids i'm ok with all mo's..

but the whole resorting to worm homo's is a lil desperate and not really going to ad to anything but have people thinking your a nut case for posting this stuff..

you are not helping the mo debate at all..

 

I am dedicated to the facts so I will post this knowing a few might use this information in an irrational manner.

While those people who are Genetically Disposed to be Homosexuals make up the vast majority of people who engage in Homosexual Sexual activities....which by the way I have absolutely no issues with....there does exist a small percentage of people who are not PHYSICALLY DISPOSED upon a Genetic Level to be Homosexual but in fact as emotionally compromised or are sexually uninhibited and CHOSE to engage in Homosexual activities or sex.

I have no issue with either group....as this is a persons own decision, disposition and right.

AboveAlpha

 

Leave it to you not to understand that one needs a brain to make a choice!

 

It will never go away as long as people project the hatred in their own heart, as being in the hearts of others. I look at the sacrifices and love in devout Christians, and wonder how those who wouldn't sacrifice even one tenth of one percent for another person, condemn rather than praise them. As for those who are spiritually immature and pharisaical, that's a different story.

 

OK...Jeanette....what the HELL does this post mean?

It can read several way's...so if you could clarify your point I would appreciate it.

AboveAlpha

 

so you can present the data that demonstrates causation ?

 

By causation you are saying what....cause of why a person is Homosexual or causation of why certain percentages of people engage in Homosexual sexuality.

Please be specific and I will answer.

AboveAlpha

 

Can you explain how species w/o a brain engage in homosexual behavior if its not biological somehow?

 

a causal relationship between genetics and homosexuality.

 

If someone is going to assert genetic causation, they should be able to present the data that demonstrates it.

 

Unnatural? Homosexuality appears in nature, therefore natural.

What benefit is there in society for heterosexuals to marry? I really see none. For men anyway.

 

Owning gun =/= improper use of a gun.

No reason to be aggressively stupid here. Name an act that does not violate an unconsenting parties rights, and lets see if we can dislodge me "Don't like it? (*)(*)(*)(*) off" argument.

 

Here you go.

Homosexual behaviour is largely shaped by genetics and random environmental factors, according to findings from the world's largest study of twins.
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Writing in the scientific journal Archives of Sexual Behavior, researchers from Queen Mary's School of Biological and Chemical Sciences, and Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm report that genetics and environmental factors (which are specific to an individual, and may include biological processes such as different hormone exposure in the womb), are important determinants of homosexual behaviour.
Dr Qazi Rahman, study co-author and a leading scientist on human sexual orientation, explains: "This study puts cold water on any concerns that we are looking for a single 'gay gene' or a single environmental variable which could be used to 'select out' homosexuality - the factors which influence sexual orientation are complex. And we are not simply talking about homosexuality here - heterosexual behaviour is also influenced by a mixture of genetic and environmental factors.
The team led by Dr Niklas Långström at Karolinska Institutet conducted the first truly population-based survey of all adult (20-47 years old) twins in Sweden. Studies of identical twins and non-identical, or fraternal, twins are often used to untangle the genetic and environmental factors responsible for a trait. While identical twins share all of their genes and their entire environment, fraternal twins share only half of their genes and their entire environment. Therefore, greater similarity in a trait between identical twins compared to fraternal twins shows that genetic factors are partly responsible for the trait.
This study looked at 3,826 same-gender twin pairs (7,652 individuals), who were asked about the total numbers of opposite sex and same sex partners they had ever had. The findings showed that 35 per cent of the differences between men in same-sex behaviour (that is, that some men have no same sex partners, and some have one or more) is accounted for by genetics.
Rahman explains: "Overall, genetics accounted for around 35 per cent of the differences between men in homosexual behaviour and other individual-specific environmental factors (that is, not societal attitudes, family or parenting which are shared by twins) accounted for around 64 per cent. In other words, men become gay or straight because of different developmental pathways, not just one pathway."
For women, genetics explained roughly 18 per cent of the variation in same-sex behaviour, non-shared environment roughly 64 per cent and shared factors, or the family environment, explained 16 per cent.
The study shows that genetic influences are important but modest, and that non-shared environmental factors, which may include factors operating during foetal development, dominate. Importantly, heredity had roughly the same influence as shared environmental factors in women, whereas the latter had no impact on sexual behaviour in men.
Dr Rahman adds: "The study is not without its limitations - we used a behavioural measure of sexual orientation which might be ok to use for men (men's psychological orientation, sexual behaviour, and sexual responses are highly related) but less so for women (who show a clearer separation between these elements of sexuality). Despite this, our study provides the most unbiased estimates presented so far of genetic and non-genetic contributions to sexual orientation.

LINK....http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

This is just one study out of many that have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Homosexuality is by and by driven behavior due to Genetic disposition.

AboveAlpha

 

for a second there, I thought you were going to show the data that demonstrated causation. My bad.

 

Are you asking me to post actual Molecular Genetic Data on this forum which shows Homosexuality to be by and by a Genetic causation?

Because if I do no one here will either understand such data or have the ability to understand such specific data.

AboveAlpha

 

oh, in that case, never mind.

 

The law doesn't offer protection, just restriction. Homosexuality is a mental disorder and should be treated as such.

 

From an engineering standpoint... the parts don't fit.

The point of heterosexual marriage was so the man could get laid... now women put out as a "right." Whose the superior sex?

 

You can't be serious?

AboveAlpha

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Well....physiologically Women are the superior sex.

AboveAlpha

 

there is cannibalism in nature also. does that make it natural? should we be allowed to eat our fellow man then?

heterosexuality promotes procreation and marriage between a man and a women promotes that child will be raised with a mother and a father which are both very beneficial to society. Your pretty simple minded aren't you?

 

Why. That was the whole point of the OP. Oh that is right logical can't be introduced sorry

 

With 7 billion people on this Earth, your procreation argument falls short.

Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers

You don't think much do you?

 

I'm not sure why it matters? Do homosexuals affect your life in any way shape or form?
Do you care who heteros have sex with? Pre maritial, extra marital, etc? Are you concerned if a 50 yr old has sex with a 20 yr old, heteros?