Texas law keeps "unresponsive", pregnant woman on life support against her will

If it's complicated then you make the safest decision

 

I do not think the Hippocratic Oath meant forcing a patient to do what the doctor feels is best.... patients have the right to deny services

 

Tell ya what.

If you can reanimate this patient, I'll agree with you.

 

Leftcheer : Kill the baby!! Kill the baby!! Rah! Rah! Rah! Kill the baby! Kill the baby! Sis-boom bah!!


Astounding the desperation of the Forum Left to KILL THIS INNOCENT, UNBORN CHILD.

They are all now MEDICAL EXPERTS, on a par their "SCIENTIFIC EXPERTISE", we see.

The NUMEROUS accounts of infants surviving this and WORSE, are just ignored, in their inmitigated BLOODLUST for this infant.

Nauseating.

How NOBLE they are, in their "defense of the WEAK", huh?

 

viability is 22 weeks at a push - there are occasional "miracles" that claim earlier but at around 22 weeks the skin has not yet formed. Friend was working in neonatal ICU and told of a wee 22 weaker that they had ripped the mouth trying to gently insert the breathing tube - every bit of tape took skin off

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Actually I am an expert in my field - which gives me far more say in this than most. I have cared for people in this circumstance. I know what is involved and if people would like to LISTEN instead of declaring I would be happy to elucidate

 

Mod Edit ~ Focus on the topic.


There is NO REASON, MEDICALLY, for the Texas baby to die, as has been proven, with NUMEROUS FACTUAL ACCOUNTS , linked to on this thread.


The ONLY reason, is sate the bloodlust desperation of the soulsick left , to kill the unborn, whenever possible.

 

What I want to know is who is paying for this? Will the father be forced to bear the full cost if his insurance won't? Will he be hounded for the rest of his life by bill collectors etc. This is going to cost huge amounts of money.

 

Not in Texas apparently, according to the article.

 

at this point the baby is what is important, soon enough the woman will be flatlined after the baby is born.

BUT after reading this story, as much as it pains me to say this, maybe its better off if they let the mom and child go because the father is a coward anyways and obviously is not up to the task.

hopefully the spineless jerk never gets another woman pregnant.

 

You are not there - you cannot judge

 

oh im judging simply based on how easy it is for him to give up his child in this manner. he is a coward and not a man. no way in hell would i let my child die if i had the chance to keep it alive, no real man would.

 

Or... put it up for adoption? You lifers have got to stick to the life part.

 

Coward? He is fighting to ensure his wife's wishes are fullfilled despite the public backlash he knew he would get. That is the opposite of cowardice.

 

who said i was a lifer? ASSume much?

 

those were his wifes wishes BEFORE she was pregnant. Now that she has a baby this changes the game. he is a coward to let his child die when he has the chance to save it. They planned on having that baby, it changes the ball game.

 

First, how do you know they didn't talk about their wishes after they found out she was pregnant? They were both paramedics. They saw the fragility of life on a daily basis. Second, even if they didn't verbally discuss it who are you and I and the State to think we would know better what she would want than her husband?

But I think the whole "we don't know what she would want" argument is disengenuous. If she had left in her living will "in the event I am pregant when I become unresponsive, please remove me from any life support" the pro-life crowd would still be arguing her instructions shouldn't be followed.

 

How do you know - from media reports? Have to personally talked with the man? Do you realise it is harder, far far harder to allow a death than to intervene? Do you know where the concept of "brain death" comes from? It was developed after early cases of severe brain damage rotted to death on the end of a ventilator.

Do you REALLY think it is as simple as having a breathing machine to "keep her alive"? The brain is hugely complex and has a very intricate role in the functioning of the human body - here is some experimentation done with animal models

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421273/

Mate I can CATALOGUE the challenges the staff of that ICU face with keeping the woman "alive" long enough for the baby to mature - with absolutely no assurances the baby will survive intact or even survive at all

Oh! And the grief - he will not be able to move from the acute grief state while she is alive - it is heart wrenching

 

In Chicago a young woman was shot in the back of the head and robbed even of her coat... lying in the snow. They found her, rushed her to the hospital.. but couldn't save her. They took the baby which is under two pounds.. and struggling to live. Its nowhere near term.

 

its not about THEM anymore, plain and simple. dude is a coward, a real parent does everything they can to save their childs life if they made the agreement to bring it into the world, not just kill it off because of this.

But like i said, considering this guy is so easy to give up on his child then maybe its better off for that baby to die along with the mother. dude sounds like a dead beat dad anyways.

 

i dont know about you or any other person out there, but if there is one speck of hope my child would survive any ordeal im gonna take it and fight for my kid. Its not like its rocket science to make that decision. but cowards will be cowards.

 

"May" be disabled. You dont know.

It "May not" be disabled, but you and the rest don't want to wait and find out. Just snuff it right? Just another baby to add to the pile with your crowd.

Disgusting.

 

Lefties love killing babies. They can't wait to do it.

 

If the baby daddy doesn't want the baby he can sign away if parental rights and go on his unencumbered way to get a new girl friend.

He might have a hard time getting a sane women now that he is well know as a baby hater.

 

The baby has a father. Why do you want to kill the baby so desperately?

 

Its pretty sick, even for them... they think its "Outrageous" to save the life of an unborn child.... WTF is our world coming to?