Who cares about the poor the most?

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  1. nom de plume

    nom de plume New Member

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    The rich! They want to keep the poor at least barely able enough to work and make money for them. If the rich treats the poor too well, they get all sassy and snippy and won't work hard.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    It makes me feel like the right is merely wasting our Tax dollars by insisting on a work ethic in modern times instead of merely solving simple poverty on an at-will basis as that form of Individualism.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I hope that you understand when video footage is carefully edited by those with an obvious agenda, and that a equally valid clip could be compiled to justify those in need.

    Yes, some people attempt to be granted benefits to which they are not entitled.

    I've already stated that those specific instances of improprieties should be documented, exposed, and eliminated. Are you aware whether these particular applicants qualified?
     
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    :roflol: :roflol:
     
  5. danielpalos

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    Like we could be solving simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage merely by being moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws regarding the concept of employment at will.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Do you have legitimate statistics to verify your opinion? Do any not find work when their benefits end? What happens to them?
     
  7. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Salvation Army?

    I assume you mean between the major political parties, and that'd a real interesting one. It seems that the Dems actually care the most, but between the two Dem policies actually hurt the poor the most.
     
  8. danielpalos

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    In case the right missed it, we used to have real poverty in the US until FDR upgraded our infrastructure using socialism to bailout capitalism.
     
  9. jthorp24

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    What are you laughing about? I'm sure your of the opinion that the people who have been on unemployment for 99 weeks haven't had enough time to find a job.
     
  10. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Obama was given billions in stimulus money to create jobs and what did he do with most of it? Did it go for infrastructure? No it went to bring back union police, fire and teachers laid off. But when the money ran out, most of them got laid off anyway. Over a year ago, Obama asked for over 50 billion more. Was it for infrastructure? Nope. It was for police, fire and teachers again. This time he didn't get it.
     
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    What min. wage do you want hamburger flippers to make? How much are you willing to pay for a cheeseburger meal, before you say to hell with that, I'll go to a restaurant and buy a real meal?
    Some jobs aren't meant to pay a living wage, even in Europe. I have eaten at McDonalds in England.
     
  12. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You realize don't you that that video was put out by Nancy Pelosi's daughter?

    Pelosi's Daughter Enrages Left with Welfare Video - Newsmax.com

    www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/PelosivideowelfareHBO/2012/.../433239‎

    Mar 20, 2012 - Nancy Pelosi's daughter, who courted conservative controversy with a video ... “All the people I work with at HBO, all the people I grew up with, said, 'You ... ago, and he wasn't looking for a job – “maybe a career, but not a job.
     
  13. banchie

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    I am LMAO at this unsubstantiated BS that cons are always fantasizing about, dreaming up, and expressing as fact over and over!!!:roflol:

    Originally Posted by Bluesguy
    It is proven over and over that people on unemployment suddenly find work the last few weeks they are eligible.
     
  14. banchie

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    well, keep your rape kit handy.
     
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    The flipper should make a living wage, that is why he works,.......to live.

    I wouldn't buy that crap, it will kill you, and you would be doing the worker a favor by going to a resturant where another flipper makes a living wage, and shutting that cheeseburger haven down.

    Yes, all jobs were meant to be a living wage, workers get jobs to live, and that is a living wage.
     
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    Yeah, she did the video, no one denied it did they? And he says he is looking for a career, not a job. She never asked him what he meant, so..............
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    And Obama was given billions in stimulus money to create jobs and what did he do with most of it? Did it go for infrastructure? No it went to bring back union police, fire and teachers laid off. But when the money ran out, most of them got laid off anyway. Over a year ago, Obama asked for over 50 billion more. Was it for infrastructure? Nope. It was for police, fire and teachers again. This time he didn't get it.




    Wow, you complain about other people's answer and the only one you can come back with mine is that? If you give a intelligent answer, the Left hasn't any answer for it but that bull crap in response.
     
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    How much is a living wage? What skills does a hamburger flipper have?
     
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    It's obvious what he meant. If your out of work, you take what you can get and work your way up, or work it till something better comes along. My father got a job by volunteering to work it a month without pay just to learn it. Did you listen to what the other guys said? All he wants is Obama bucks. He wasn't interested in a job.
     
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    Mc Donalds has been in existence since the 1950's and never paid a living wage. It was never meant to pay a living wage. It was meant for college kids to make some spending money or a family member to supplement the family income. If you want a living wage, learn a job that pays one. When you go to McDonalds, you expect to pay little for a burger and fries. You can't do that by paying a living wage and health care.
     
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    Nah, I think a worker should get a living wage, you haven't a clue what a McD wage was meant to do, and you haven't a clue what a hamburger would cost if the living wage was instituted, and you haven't a clue of who McD's employees are or what it takes for them to live.
     
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    I'll ask again since you avoided my question the first time I asked.

    How much is a living wage?
     
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    He means between religions (though the topic seems to have morphed into something quite different)
    You kind of have to maximize that small picture to see that all the options are some major religious group+[pot smokers].
     
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    I call it bailing out the wealthiest; not a real stimulus.
     
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    We already have a Standard for official poverty; we could be simply paying people a form of minimum wage to not work and do something else with that money. It will stimulate our economy and create demand.

    Why should I care what people are willing to work for, if they can't claim to be in official poverty if they choose not to work? We could end our regime of statutory minimum wage laws and lower our tax burden.
     

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