Would you favor your home utilities paid by taxes?

No I am not reading 11 pages into a thread which is the post you linked too.. I read the first two or three pages as any serious questions should have been brought up and resolved at that point. If it took you 11 pages to amend your initial position then I can't help it that you are slow. What you are literally describing is no different than when a country nationalizes its energy production which ALWAYS turns into a disaster both for the customers and for the environment because without any cost incentives you have nothing to discourage waste. There is a reason that the military contracts it's projects out to private businesses because of compeitition and because everyone knows that government is far more wasteful than private industry and less productive.

Energy is not free even from the sun. To produce solar panels today you need massive strip mining operations to get rare earth elements and also metals like zinc require toxic chemicals during hydrometallurgical mining. Todays' solar panels are horrible for the environment and only complete environmental morons support them today. There are organic solar panels but at this stage they woefully inefficient and won't be viable till they get better than the 6% efficiency that they are now. This is why nuclear and natural gas are the only two viable sources of cleaner power going into the future. Coal might get there if they can get the "clean coal" technology to be effective enough and cost efficient as well. Solar, wind, geothermal are a complete joke and at best are only good for supplemental power. They can never produce enough because of basic physics in the case of solar (you only get around 250 watts/m^2 with solar at max efficiency and today's panels only net you around 20-30% efficiency. All the geothermal power in the US today would only provide enough electricity to cover 5% of what we use annually and wind is obviously far to dependent on location and weather conditions.

 

This.

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Not to mention that we're talking about the Obama-Nation implementing such...

So, Blacks would get their utilities tax free, of coarse.

Whites would have their utility taxes doubled, just for good measure.

White, Male Conservatives would simply have all their services cut off, and their taxes quadrupled, and expected to be paid, on threat of SWAT team intervention, whether they received any services or not.

And just think, we could like the Fair and Balanced neo-IRS implement the whole thing!

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Quite possibly the dumbest idea I've ever read on here. You just want the taxpayers to once again pay for the free loaders.

 

But I can't tap it for free.

 

It's been out 3X in the last 30 days. Now if one can tap clouds and snow, you may have something.

 

Oh, don't worry, you will get to pay for your rich bastiods and corporations so that should make you happy, lol So much capitalist hate for Americans.

 

Why isn't it a one time cost? I explained material costs.

 

It wasn't answered--it was just supplied with your unrealistic expectations. If there was no limit or cost to water, I'd have the greenest yard in the entire USA, maybe even a pond with a water fall the came directly from the hose on the side of my house. Why not. It would be easier to run an overflow drain pipe to the creek than it would be to have to have electricity and filters to recycle the water. With five year light bulbs there is no reason to turn off the lights. It is freezing outside--let me crank my heat up to 90. Can't wait until summer when I can turn my house into a meat locker for free.

 

Why should I pay for your internet or TV bill?

What is capitalistic about that?

 

And you could surely do all that. This country needs 300 nuclear reactors (total) on three coast lines and most of them with desalination units setting beside them. These would pump fresh water inland to all our dry states to replenish aquifers and assist in dry years. All of the piping for these water ways could be manufactured from sand & reinforced plastic netting. The new glass processes are very low energy to heat the sands, some chemical they are adding. By the way, it was McCain that suggested we build 100 nuclear plants, but that number would be insufficient to do everything we need done. Besides desalination plants we need to increase the energy in the grid for cheaper manufacturing, housing, food, etc., as well as an electric highway system. We need your green trees and grass to overcome elements in the air. Turn this country into an oxygen producer.

And like I noted, you can burn & waste all you want. It means more plants & equipment & jobs & products, etc. We need a country where energy is the last of our problems and is geared to our manufacturing & population usage when running at maximum. It really is dumb that your body isn't being protected from weather exposure when energy is so cheap to produce. I use to build nuclear reactors, and it always amazed me at how little fuel it takes to power a major city. Just a little 30 foot diameter area about 30 foot deep, stuffed with fuel rods can power an entire major city like Sacramento for a year, while running at 80% of capacity. At the end of that time you have only used 1/3 of the nuclear fuel rods, and only 1/3 of those rods being replaced was burned. That 2/3rds unburned can be reprocessed and put back into new fuel rods, or stuck in a breeder reactor.

 

Why would you being paying for mine? You would be paying for yours, instead of getting a bill in the mail, you will be taxed. About as capitalist as being taxed for roads, streets, sidewalks, etc.

 

http://bostonsolar.us/boston-solar-...s-lifetime-productivity-and-maintenance-costs

From a leading solar company.

Plus it is intermittent. You cant have solar alone. The most expensive energy source out there shouldnt be the one you want to make free. If you think it is a good idea, install them yourself and get your own solar free electricity building instead of being wasteful with interior christmas lights while you complain that others need to subsidize you.

 

You have a ton of text, nothing showing that commerical solar on grid is not a one time cost to build.

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...2013-33,HPIA:en&q=solar+power+fields&tbm=isch

 

Answer me this banchie: why home utilities but not your home itself?

 

Yep utilities, home, air con, healthcare, PC, unlimited broadband (porn is a must have for the leftist unemployed sponge), clothing, food (yum lobster, prawns), cars (everyone with a new car every 3 years has to be great for the economy right?), maybe a free pass or 3 to the movies each month..... all while sun baking on the beach. Ahh what a world it must be in the mind of the leftist - how can other people pay for me??

 

A home won't raise the GDP, make us competitive with foreigners, lower food costs, lower transportation costs, etc. Cheap energy does that. The OP isn't about homes, the OP is about Utilities being bundled. It isn't about shoes, or hair styles, etc. Thats why! lol That is another thread

 

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Hmm, I don't think your read you read the OP.

 

Shifting the cost burden doesn't make something cheap. If I want to get a pizza, and mug banchie for the money for the pizza, it doesn't make the pizza any cheaper, it just shifts the burden. If anything, it will raise the costs, because once the burden is shifted the one with a lesser burden cares less about the cost.

 

Eliminating rent seeking and profiteering does. Where I live we enjoy municipal electricity, water, sewer, garbage collection, and a host of other services. They are far cheaper and more reliably provided than the privately provided services of surrounding communities. There has been talk lately of the electric department providing high speed wireless internet throughout the town. It is a very compact town, 10 square miles with a 20,000 population. The last preliminary estimate I saw was that it would cost about 10$ per household to implement and less than $2 per household a month to operate. The electric department is still working out the details and will make a final report early next year. That is far less than the 40-60$ a month that the two cable companies charge for comparable wired service, needless to say they are in a panic.

 

Would we be worse off with the physical layer of Infrastructure, administered by the public sector?

 

Government union thugs are the worst "workers" that exist.

 

NO WAY!!!!

 

And have a free lottery for 2 week beach vacations, free buss and rail passes, free air travel, free free free free free --------- yep, the leftist minds must be working overtime to come up with more government jobs and how to get every last cent the working people have got. They have only got one word they really know........ FREEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!