What moral right do have to other people's earnings?

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  1. Ixtellor

    Ixtellor Active Member

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    Why do posters insist on doing these childish threads where instead of just making a thesis and defending it you play childish games.

    Its a useless exercise to cover up the initiators inability to persuade or make a logical argument.

    If you're going to be ridiculous, then really commit.
    What moral right do you have to murder? See War
    What moral right do you have to imprison? See Raising your children
    What moral right do you have to torture? See Raising your children

    I'm confident I can find all kinds of websters definitions that technically fit both private and public actions.
    Then just throw in "what moral right do you have _______" and viola you have a ridiculous premise/question/exercise.

    Of course this all ignores the fact there morality is a man made concept subject to the our whims and altered by time, thus making the thread even more pointless.
     
  2. Riot

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    One day after I die my property won't be mine. Maybe the government will take it,maybe my kids. But I paid for it. I worked for it. I didn't take it from no one against their will like taxes.
    When the takers out number the providers by no fault of mine isn't my problem. How much of my money go to the takers? What do you think they would vote on. 50% 60% 90%? I would bet if a guy makes a million a year a taker would say he should only get 60 thousand or so.
    I own my own business and see what kind of work crew is out there. Lazy. Most have only two speeds, slow and dead stop. And most of them their slow gear is broken. But they look at what I have and think I should GIVE them more of mine
     
  3. Questerr

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    The issue is that dogs are intelligent enough to understand the non-aggression principle.

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    So you can't adequately motivate your workers? Sounds like a business leadership problem.
     
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    Lol. My main guys work. It's the hands. The newbie straight out of high school or even drop outs. They want top dollar yet don't know crap and don't want to learn. They don't last long. I have ten main guys that know how to work and do so. And I reward them for it. That's why they have been here for years. But today's young people with work ethics are a dwindling number. Spoiled lazy and self absorbed the world owes them their million now. They wanna be big pimpin.
     
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    There is nothing that gives you a moral right to property.
     
  6. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    You know immigrants want to work. I bet you could hire some of them...except you probably support free market-violating border controls and their deportation.
     
  7. sec

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    there is no moral right because morality is not part of the Constitution. We have a representative style of government. We are a land of laws. As long as the majority of voters continue to elect politicians who support taking from the productive to give to the unproductive then it will, and rightly so continue.

    Elections have consequences and we now see the damage we've done by electing liberals.
     
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    The same reason the states do, it the law. The law has been backed by the USSC. Moreover all property is common to an extent as it comes from common origins.
     
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    Armed robbery hyperbole aside, the word 'earned' has always intrigued me. Actual earning is a different concept than earning in the legal sense. Unless he wants to actually haul the coal out of the mine, the Wall Street broker selling shares in the coal mine and making a fortune (all of it made possible ONLY by the man with the sweaty black face) hasn't 'earned' a thing. He has simply used his law on the miner.
     
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    Now yer gettin' it. The best thief wins. It's a jungle out there. Except that the rich people didn't steal our earnings, the government did.

    But then you gotta ask yourself who owns the government so, yeah, the rich people DID steal our earnings.
     
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    Actual: You have no argument so you have use your imagination in a vain attempt to justify your aberrant opinion.
     
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    No. But I am spending my money and have never asked for any donations to do something about this for the whole nation and the whole world. if you are interested to join forces, pm me, I'm not allowed to post links.
     
  14. Str8Edge

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    I'd say you completely avoided answering the question in the OP. Why is that?
     
  15. Str8Edge

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    It's an interesting question but doesn't really address the OP. I'm sure territorial animals would disagree with your comment that property doesn't exist in nature.
     
  16. Str8Edge

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    Everything put in place by the constitution has been purposely subverted or circumvented by politicians. The constitution that actually protects your wealth/property instead of handing it out is the one our founding fathers put in place. For those that disagree, perhaps they can show us all the Marxist schemes the founding fathers had in place for redistributing wealth to those deemed more worthy of your earnings than YOU are. :roflol:
     
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    :roflol: You mean the constitution was subverted via the Supreme Court.
     
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    Ah yes.... the old, investors don't earn their money meme. :roflol: I'd imagine those that have taken the risk of investing and lost a pot to (*)(*)(*)(*) in would disagree.

    FURTHERMORE, every citizen is allowed to invest however they see fit. You'd think people so jealous and envious of investors would pony up a little cash for their own investments!
     
  19. Burz

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    Can't recall what it is.
     
  20. Str8Edge

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    You could attempt to read it.
     
  21. Burz

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    Why don't you just... restate the relevant portion.
     
  22. Str8Edge

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    Without reading the OP though I give you a 97% of creating a strawman argument.
     
  23. Burz

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    Why thank you.
     
  24. Str8Edge

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    I'm a pretty optimistic guy!
     
  25. Burz

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    I think you should write a new op.
     

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