‘Aftermath:’ A Riveting Portrayal of Polish Anti-Semitism

It is shameful of you, Mr. Bendor, to accuse the Poles now for not having saved the 3 million Jews. Besides, you are exaggerating. It says on a plaque in Auschwitz that 1 1/2 million died. That number might go down even further with time and independent research. I don't like to argue over the number of dead people, but you are the one bringing it into the argument.
The numbers vary constantly with the different sources, so that nobody really knows how many perished, every number is estimated either up or down, despite German record keeping.

For instance look at this link about Buchenwald.
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/DeathStatistics.html

I gave up. It is too confusing.
But one new fact I learned out of there: The Germans were obligated to move their prisoners away from the combat zones. That's why they transported, and in some cases for lack of transportation means, marched the prisoners further inland. Naturally, the old and weak ones couldn't make it and fell over and were shot. They didn't call 911, the Ambulance, and had them brought to a nearby hospital. In those days the Germans themselves were fleeing westward. It was a desperate time.
Be honest, Mr. Bendor, if you would count all the Polish Jews who fled or survived and made their home in the United States, you have no ground to accuse and hate the Poles now, a totally new generation, for your imagined negligence of their Grandparents. The Poles had a very hard time themselves.

So there - that's my 2 cents worth!

 

We have a pretty good idea how many perished. The Operation Reinhardt camps is where most went, and there are censuses in Poland and railroad records n the number of trains and cars that went to those camps.

And yes, Polish authorities participated in the roundups of Jews, and the sealing off of the Warsaw Ghetto and subsequent round up of Jews there wouldn't have been remotely possible without Polish police providing the bulk of the manpower.

 

The true Polish governent was in exile in London when the Holocaust began.

 

they didn't take the entire Polish government bureaucracy and police force with them when they fled to London. Most towns and villages didn't lose their Mayors and officials, either.

 

3 million Poles werre murdered by the Nazis. Millions more were used as slaves.

 

And nowhere did I say otherwise. Yitzhak Arad's book on the Operation Rheinhardt camps gives an estimate very near 3 million, and doesn't include those killed outright by nazis and Polish police.

 

I'll also add Arad's book mentions Polish villagers cheering while local police rounded up and arrested Jews and escorted them to trains without a single Nazi around to force them to.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...lish-council-stanislaw-krajewski-new-monument

There are more than this one incident.

 

Once again, you pretend to be evenhanded when you compare what 35 Million Polish People have gone through with the plight of 3 Million Polish Jewish Citizens.... (Big gap)

What happened is irreconcilable, I am not religious, I am not from Polish extract and I have no dogs in this arena.
I still maintain that Poland should have resisted the Nazi persistence to destroy human beings. How????? you say???
Tiny Winy Denmark showed the way... when the Nazis asked them to round the Jews they responded <we are all Jews>!!!

 

There were also Danish collaborators and Danish Nazis as well, also Dutch ones.

 

The 8000 or so Danish Jews escaped because they were tipped-off about planned Nazi deportations and got away in time. This was not a luxury afforded the Jews in Poland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24427637

 

More on Danish history under the Nazis.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/28/andrewosborn

Also this.

http://forward.com/articles/184216/denmark-forced-by-history-to-revisit-heroic-tale-o/?p=all

Denmark's history re protecting Jews is certainly better than the rest of Nazi occupied Europe, but there are still holes in the rosy feel good stories.

 

Where could they have gone to anyway? Russia? Perhaps. That was the only way possible. And quite a few did. But after the war they all came back to claim their compensation. Some stayed in Germany, some went to Israel and quite a few went to North-America. Their lives were hugely improved through the hc. Poland, too, got immensely enriched after the war. They all should shut up and praise the Lord for their good fortune!!

 

Ask any Pole how much he enjoyed life under Communism. If you call that "good fortune" you have a serious problem. My family in England used to send a monthly food parcel to remaining family members in Warsaw; basic stuff we all take for granted-fruit, coffee and shampoo among other things which seldom appeared on the shelves. "Hugely improved"? Secret police and a totalitarian state are not things I would call enriching.

http://www.humanityinaction.org/kno...chic-among-poland-s-old-and-young-generations

 

7,200 Danish Jews escaped to Sweden, according to some sources.

 

Why are jews always hating on Poland? The poles welcomed you when the rest of Europe wanted you dead.
Enough victimization.

 

Sorry, if I was insensitive. I figured, with all that land they got from Germany, full of houses, factories, machinery, farms, cattle...everything. The land was not empty - only the owners were gone.

Why was it a life under Communism? Who voted them in?
You got rid of the Nazis, then what happened?
Is Poland still communistic?

I just went over your link and see that Communism ended in 1989. I had no Idea. I only associated Communism after the war with East-Germany.

So, did the Russians plunder the German Land while you were living there? Or did they strip it down to the bones before it was given to you?

Wikipedia says you also received huge amounts of money from Germany:

You have nothing to complain, but a lot to be thankful for. That is my humble opinion.

 

Go back to the Yalta conference where, in exchange for Stalin agreeing to fight on the side of the Allies, Churchill and Roosevelt agreed to give him half of Poland as a 'thank you' gesture. Nobody voted for Communism; it was imposed on the Poles. My family lost everything they had when Russia invaded early in the war. My grandfather was murdered by the Russians and my mother and grandmother were taken into Siberia as slave workers, building railways. After the war as stateless refugees they eventually found their way to England via Iran (Persia) and Palestine. Their former home in Poland was by then, and still is, absorbed into the Ukraine.
Poles have no love for Communism. As if that insult wasn't enough the Polish soldiers and airmen (who had been Britain's longest standing WW2 ally, and the only occupied nation not to have surrendered to the Nazis), were forbidden to take part in the V.E Day victory parade through London in case Stalin got upset. Read the following and ask yourself what Poles have to be thankful for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Conference#Poland_and_the_Eastern_Bloc