‘Aftermath:’ A Riveting Portrayal of Polish Anti-Semitism

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? Was there ever a doubt? Naturally, whether fact or fiction, Germany was his declared enemy and he would believe any horror story he was told.
    The Jews were extremely lucky to get Truman's forced agreement to the founding of their state "Israel". He wavered back and forth and in the end was driven into a corner where he couldn't back down anymore.
    check here:
    http://www.ihr.org/other/trumandecision_curtiss.html
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    Anyway, that is all history now. FACT is that the American presidents one after the other bow down to Israel and grant them any wish they utter. Without Putin's interference they would have gone to war by now against Iran, just to please Israel.
     
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    IHR. Another who uses neo nazi connected Holocaust denial sites as legitimate sources.:roflol:
     
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    Please, name the book. Maybe we can look it up.:cool:
     
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    I see. That kind of excuse simplifies any argument for you. No answer is a good answer.
     
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    These are two volumes...
    Vol. I) International Terrorism in the 1980s, a chronology of events 1980-1983... ISBN 0-8138-0024-2 (541 Pages)
    Vol II) International Terrorism in the 1980s, a chronology of events 1984-1987... ISBN 0-8138-0172-9 (776 Pages)

    After 1987 today there are several of these chronological listings floating around, the moment I obtain them I will also list them...
     
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    Not an excuse but rather experience in dealing with closed minded racists who bottom feed off hate sites. Separating hate from fact is a chore so I just ignore the mixture and request they use accredited impartial sources. Needless to say, they rarely provide them as their case and contention is based on small minded bigotry rather than fact.
     
  7. Jazz

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    Unbelievable!!! A grown man on a public forum tells us 3 mil out of 35mil represents 1,16%, hence a drop in a bucket!!!:roflol:

    Question:
    If 35 mil = 100% then 3 mil = how much?

    Answer:
    3500 : 3 = 18.33%

    the answer is: The Poles lost 18.33% of their population.

    Now, Mr. Bendor, apologize to Anansi the spider!
     
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    Most of your accredited sources offer the concocted stories of your 96% polluted and for the masses brainwashed material. I look further and try to get the real facts.
    I seem to remember we have been at this point before, it is therefore lost love to continue. Don't bother responding to my posts and we'll get along fine.
    :truce::flagcanada:
     
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    O.k., I clicked on the first link that appeared....

    http://thecanadianencyclopedia.com/en/article/terrorism/

    It shows this photo
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    looks like an Israeli aiming at a child.

    Certainly, Israel is a terrorist state. The world agrees on that.

    I'm going for supper now. Later...:salute:
     
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    Which sources are you referring to exactly? I use Encyclopedia Britannica a lot, did you mean that source?

    Sites that state Jews declared war on poor Hitler don't come off as places to get 'real facts.' :roflol:

    Canada, home of the disgraced Zundel. As for responding to your errant posts, if you don't like it and refuse to follow forum rules by posted a link from an accredited source then expect to be continually challenged on silly points like the Holocaust not occurring as historically portrayed and verified or using 'real facts' garnered from these hate sites..
     
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    Your math is a bit messed HBendor. It should be 11.6% of the Polish population rather than 1.6 which, as compared to the Jewish population of 100% is still as you say, "a drop in the bucket" or, fairly minimal compared to the total eradication of one ethnic group of peoples.
     
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    Your ilk are not saintly either 3500 : 3 = 11.66% this is the right percentage
     
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    My calculator failed me and did put the coma in the wrong place ,it is 11,66% Thank you.
     
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    Too bad you had to notice. Bedson spoiled the fun!!!:roll:
     
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    You are right there is no question because Israel hasn't worked "as the nazi's did trying to expel palestinians. This is a salacious, slanderous and readily disprovable accusation.


    With regard Poland I do not know too much. From the little I know it seems to have been a welcoming place for Jews and to have had a rich Jewish culture. The problems seem to have come when Russia took over some of her territory....and let's not forget the holocaust was not just against Jews.

    If we want to look at where it has not been properly investigated I would think Croatia would be a good place to start http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary...r-World-War-II-genocide-before-joining-the-EU or how about Romania where 400,000 Jews faced their deaths. I haven't studied the treatment of Jews in Romania but have studied that of the Roma and the camps they were sent to to die - where Jews also went. What is interesting about Romania was that what stopped more Roma being killed was the Romanian people themselves - on all levels. As half her Jews also survived it may have been the same with them. In Poland however, there was no way in which the people could make their voice heard. Hence you have many Poles risking their lives for Jews over 6,000 of whom have been recognised and I imagine that is just the surface.[/QUOTE]

    At least you admit you don't know much.

    Basically, Bendor et.al. have taken anecdotal evidence and extrapolate that to an entire nation. This is just intellectually dishonest.
    there is a long long history of polish anti=semitism, just like british, french, italian, american, russian etc. etc. etc. but that doesn't mean that an entire country or its people are.
     
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    That's Drew or Drew Bedson thanks. :thumbsup:

    As for spoiling fun, he was off by a decimal point but what is your excuse for the out to lunch math?

     
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    At least you admit you don't know much.

    Basically, Bendor et.al. have taken anecdotal evidence and extrapolate that to an entire nation. This is just intellectually dishonest.
    there is a long long history of polish anti=semitism, just like british, french, italian, american, russian etc. etc. etc. but that doesn't mean that an entire country or its people are.[/QUOTE]

    Jonsa how do you explain the Warsaw Ghetto uprising totally handled by Jews without the help of Poles?

    I know the reason Jonsa... They were not loved and the Poles deducted mentally or otherwise that they are expandable.
     
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    At least you admit you don't know much.

    Basically, Bendor et.al. have taken anecdotal evidence and extrapolate that to an entire nation. This is just intellectually dishonest.
    there is a long long history of polish anti=semitism, just like british, french, italian, american, russian etc. etc. etc. but that doesn't mean that an entire country or its people are
    .[/QUOTE]

    I concur!:thumbsup:
     
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    Your vile response has returned you to the <IGNORE> section again. trueleloo!!!
     
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    :roflol: I came across a thread the other day that had three of the ones form my list all quipping away in what I assumed was a rant fest cat fight and then another (now banned member) joined in and between them alland the deleted posts and ignored ones the entire page was filled with nothing!
     
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    Why didn't the Poles rise up against their nazi occupiers to assist the jews in the ghetto uprising?
    That is part of your argument for the gross generalization that non-jew poles hated jew poles?

    Let's not consider that the poles had no guns, they lost their war in a week or so, their army was completely crushed, they were oppressively occupied, they were constantly bombarded with nazi propaganda, and from a totally human perspective "it was somebody else, not me".

    You are a much better student of human nature than to offer up that kind of lame argument.

    Nobody will debate that anti-semitism wasn't rife throughout Europe and had been for a couple of millennia.

    You are doing exactly to the poles what the anti-zionists do to israelis and jew haters do to jews.

    Are you merely making an statement to demonstrate what equivalency looks like?
     
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    Antisemitism exists in every christian or islamic nation. But polish and ukrainian antisemitism is one of the most disgusting.
     
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    Very good, except you conveniently ommitted this little nugget from Kahan; that [Sharon] bore "personal responsibility for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge". To ignore something you must first be aware of it. Sharon knew very well what was likely to happen, and did nothing to prevent it.
    This is what forced his resignation in disgrace. So, when you talk of being disingenuous I suggest you consider what 'lying by omission' means. Here is a little aide memoire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie#Lying_by_omission
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
    Contrary to your assertion Kahan found Sharon guilty of bearing both direct and indirect responsibility for aspects of the Sabra and Shatila massacres. That is an indisputable fact.
     
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    Your statement is full of beans... and the rest akin Swiss cheese (full of holes).
    Besides the thread is not about a Hero of Israel (Sharon) but rather the culpability of some scumy Poles in the slaughter of Jews during the second world war. This exercise in distraction will not help...

    I scrutized this link < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie#Lying_by_omission> and I found it befitting your post.
     

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