And the fascist tentacles start to creep in

You can bet that anytime a right-winger posts a snippet without citing the source, that you're receiving less than have of the information.

 

Just ask women about all the laws that right-wingers are trying to pass concerning their reproductive rights.

Or the full-court press by the right-wing to suppress voting.

 

Asking for ID is not voter suppression. In fact, it can help legitimize the vote and stop election stealing like what happened to Bob Dornan.

 

No he eventually wants single payer government run healthcare, fascism is just a stop along the way.

 

What does that have to do with the economic system?

ROFL so Germany, Brazil, the Netherlands and Canada are fascist now?
Brazil[edit]

In Brazil voting is compulsory to all citizens between 18 and 70 years old.[1] In order to vote all citizens must:

be registered to vote;
report in person to the his/hers voting section;[2]
present an official identity document with photo, usually the regular ID card (cédula de identidade).
Since 2006 the Brazilian Electoral Justice is re-registering voters with biometric identification. In the 2014 elections more than 22 million voters (out of 141 million[3]) will be identified by fingerprints.[4]

Canada[edit]

Federal elections[edit]
In Canada the Federal government will send out, by mail, an Elections Canada registration confirmation card, which the voter takes to the polling station, in advance detailing the where and when that individual should vote. To vote, one must prove their identity and address. A voter has three options:[5]

(1) Show one original piece of identification with photo, name and address like a driver's license or a health card. It must be issued by a government agency.

(2) Show two original pieces of authorized identification. Both pieces must have a name and one must also have an address. Examples: student ID card, birth certificate, public transportation card, utility bill, bank/credit card statement, etc.

(3) Take an oath and have an elector who knows the voter vouch for them (both of which will be required to make a sworn statement). This person must have authorized identification and their name must appear on the list of electors in the same polling division as the voter. This person can only vouch for one person and the person who is vouched for cannot vouch for another elector.


Germany[edit]

Germany has a community-based resident registration system and everyone eligible to vote receives a personal polling notification some weeks before the election by mail, indicating the polling station of the voter's precinct. Voters have to present their polling notification or a piece of photo ID (identity card, passport, form of identification) when voting. The election officials may refrain from demanding identification when the voter is personally known to them, given his or her name is in the polling station's register of voters.

Netherlands[edit]

The registration office of each municipality in the Netherlands maintains a registration of all residents. Every eligible voter receives a personal polling notification by mail some weeks before the election, indicating the polling station of the voter's precinct. Voters have to present their polling notification and a piece of photo ID (passport, identity card, or drivers license) when voting. Such photo ID may be expired but not more than 5 years.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws

I can post LOTS more countries that require some form of ID to vote and challenge you on whether they are fascist so do you want to go ahead and withdraw that one shall I continue?


But I take it your diversion is an admittance that Obama is inject the tentacles of fascism if not please reconcile that with the definition of economic fascism.

 

Don't forget the golf, that' seems pretty important too...

 

Oh I get it, good one, pretty funny.

 

You like fascism find it "funny"?

 

Oh.....you were being serious. My mistake.

 

You petty hyperbole aside I await your reasoned civil rebuttal to what has been presented to you.

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You petty hyperbole aside I await your reasoned civil rebuttal to what has been presented to you.

 

Of course it's not modern right wing. But it's still right wing. And you're right. This is a right wing version of universal healthcare. Compared to the German version, this is clearly to the right.

 

That's not how the political spectrum works. It's not a line, but a grid. You're confusing authoritarianism with Communism and Fascism. Think of it like this. All Communists are Authoritarian but not all Authoritarians are Communists.

 

Reasoned rebuttal to unreasonable nonsense seems kind of pointless......sort of like trying to teach algebra to a German Shepard. He wags his tail in acknowledgement but he doesn't really understand.

 

Only in america... The only super power on the globe that can't implement a national healthcare program, something other countries did in the 50's and 60's...

The only nation where its middle class, or what's left of it, spend more time defending the rich who are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing them over instead of uniting with the poor to create a better society. The nation who put a man on the moon is now denying science and is instead arguing for creationism... Only in america...

 

There is nothing rightwing about government universal health care and in particular Obamacare. And no facism was an antipathy to free market conservatism, what is rightwing these days. That's the problem when such simple terms are used across a broad spectrum.

 

Yes the only superpower left standing did not, what does that tell you about those that are no longer superpowers?

Can you give me some examples of you, I assume middle clase, defends the rich?

ROFL even most of the religious people I know are not creationist but simply believe god sorta guided it along. But are you saying only in America are their people who believe in the bible and it's story of creation or some other story of a supernatural entity creating the earth and it's people's?

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So you can't offer a reasoned civil debate........gotcha

 

Yes, universal healthcare. How many millions of Americans still won't have health insurance? Let's compare Obamacare to Germany, the first country in the world to have universal healthcare. There, there are two groups, the government insuring the people. Here, it's an argument divided between the government, people and businesses. We have a marketplace for people to shop for what they want. Our system is easily to the right.

Yeah, hence why Facism isn't just economics it's a political philosphy as well.

 

Yes many mislabel all oppressive regimes as fascist simply because they are oppressive not based on the economic scheme. Fascism and socialism can also coexist far better than fascism and capitalism.

And we see not only the tentacles of fascism in Obama's economic polices but also in his political activities as the the IRS scandal and the suppression of opposing political parties and the NSA spying on and threatening of journalist.

Now his defiance of Congressional Authority, and the law and declaring he can change law and invent law on his own, who is he reminding you of in his early stages of power?

 

Telling that none of the quislings are challenging that Obama Care wants to now intervene in an employers right to add or subtract workers in favor of quibbling over the definition of fascism and such. Disingenuous as always.

 

Fascism can coexist with Socialism? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's rich.

So you're admitting he's going to the right? And the IRS scandal wasn't real, NSA is a real problem, but this is an ongoing trend in US politics. It's not Obama, it's everyone
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Andrew Jackson.

 

You are aware that this a incorrect statement?

 

No it isn't. Fascism is totalitarian enforcement of the ideas of those in power. In this case, Obama is in power, and is forcing his ideology on the public.

This is one of the most stark anti-American jackbooted thug moves I have ever seen in my 47 years. I'm astounded at the brazenness of this attack on our freedoms.

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I wonder if at this point you consider the difference between the two important.

 

Your rather unstable cackling aside, they absolutely can - and did. What do you think the Nazis were? National Socialists who were Fascist.

 

No, not at all.

ONLY if a business desires exemption from a federal employer requirement of all employers its size, it needs to agree it will NOT lay off people for the sole reason of further exemption.

Pretty straightforward.

Employers do NOT need to "ask the government for permission".

Many requirements apply to businesses depending on its size. For instance, mass layoffs of a certain magnitude by large companies have some requirement of notice and retraining support.

These requirements have been supported by Republicans as well as Democrats without idiotic and clueless calls of "fascism" from the Right when Republicans did it.

 

Having to answer to the government on a business decision is wrong, but I don't expect you to recognize this... and I quit caring long ago what Republicans and Democrats support. Caring is the thought process of a sheep anymore. The parties are bankrupt of caring about we the people, except for the TEA Party and a few specific Liberals like Dennis Kucinich.